Not everything in the Bible is true...

[Psalm136:2]

"We are gonna run out of luck some day. We have been so goddamn lucky," Steve-O says. "I think we all have a sense that there is some sort of entity looking over us."
- MSN (Chatting with one of the main members of the "Jackass" crew, Steven "Steve-O" Glover, it's clear the death defying and hilariously idiotic stunts in the group's new movie, "Jackass: Number Two," have taken their toll.) :Off-Topic2:

[kinyo]

Claimed by the faithful. Of course if one doesn't believe in it, then it could be the greatest history book ever written (another purpose of it, if you may).

and only the faithful are "saved"?
those non-believers are doomed to hell with satan?

[Chip]

Yes He could have, but let's look at this analogy:
Ginawa ka ng tatay at nanay mo. Pinalaki ka sa maayos na disiplina. Pero, kaya ka ba nilang pigilan kung "iniisip" mong gumawa ng masama? Specially when you're on your own or with your barkadas?

Ah but that analogy takes into account limitations, which, if God was all-powerful, he does not have. An all-powerful being, would not be bound by any laws, not those of time, space, nature or even human nature.


RE Islam and Muslims in general. Most of the fundamentalists are the poor and uneducated, and they give everyone else a bad name.

Poverty + Ignorance + Religion = Cash Cow or Timebomb (However you see fit).

Parang gusto ko ngang magtayo ng kulto e. With mandatory tithing and ritual virgin deflorations hehehe I'll have my own little empire, complete with a bunch of idiots I can shaft anytime (literally and figuratively), who I can command to sacrifice their lives if I feel like it. Plus may tagalinis pa ako ng mga kotse at eroplano that I'll have bought from all their contributions.

[oldblue]

and only the faithful are "saved"?
those non-believers are doomed to hell with satan?

yes! repent brother

[oldblue]

Ah but that analogy takes into account limitations, which, if God was all-powerful, he does not have. An all-powerful being, would not be bound by any laws, not those of time, space, nature or even human nature.

God is bound by one law. the law that applies to free will.

[theveed]

Well, Satan is one screw up that God needs to repent about IMO.

[GasJunkie]

You should remove the IMO.

[Psalm136:2]

and only the faithful are "saved"?
those non-believers are doomed to hell with satan?

I'm afraid so. But let me just make it clear; those who are going to be saved are the ones who believe and have faith in Christ.
"Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me." - John 14:6

"Because if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses unto salvation." - Romans 10:9-10

Not the ones who just read the Bible.

[Psalm136:2]

Ah but that analogy takes into account limitations, which, if God was all-powerful, he does not have. An all-powerful being, would not be bound by any laws, not those of time, space, nature or even human nature.
RE Islam and Muslims in general. Most of the fundamentalists are the poor and uneducated, and they give everyone else a bad name.
Poverty + Ignorance + Religion = Cash Cow or Timebomb (However you see fit).
Parang gusto ko ngang magtayo ng kulto e. With mandatory tithing and ritual virgin deflorations hehehe I'll have my own little empire, complete with a bunch of idiots I can shaft anytime (literally and figuratively), who I can command to sacrifice their lives if I feel like it. Plus may tagalinis pa ako ng mga kotse at eroplano that I'll have bought from all their contributions.

Of course God does not have limitations nor He's bound by any law. He's a supreme being, He makes the law. But He did have a human nature (through Christ).

What I'm trying to imply based on your previous post, God despite His power and might, still respects man's free will. Just as He allowed Lucifer to go against Him.

[theveed]

I'm afraid so. But let me just make it clear; those who are going to be saved are the ones who believe and have faith in Christ.
"Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me." - John 14:6

"Because if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses unto salvation." - Romans 10:9-10

Not the ones who just read the Bible.

If you don't read the Bible, how can those verses hold any grounds?

Hell must be one crowded place.

[Zeus]

Bible is written by men not god! Binobola lang tayo niyan! Believe in yourself! Listen to the advice of others,judge the decision, learn from your mistake! correct them! Apply what is right. You create your own destiny, you are the God! There's no other other god but you!

[theveed]

Interesting Poll...

http://www.srbi.com/time_poll.html

[Flagg]

... it's really up to the moderates to make themselves be heard and show the world that Osama bin Laden, the Hezbollah and the Iraqi President aren't the only faces of Islam....

Oo nga. Kung Muslim me, ayoko sila kasi amfafangit nila.

Si Osama mukhang isda. Si Ahmadinejad, mukhang nalugi.

Sa bagay, si Papa Ratzi mukhang anti-Christ. :evillaugh

[Flagg]

Well, Satan is one screw up that God needs to repent about IMO.

Why should God repent for Satan?

Satan's not that bad, especially when you think of using tools. :evillaugh

[niky]

RE: Being Saved.

If you aren't Christian, do you care whether or not you go to Paradise? Whether you get to sit around on clouds with halos around your head and a harp in your lap?

If you aren't Muslim, do you care how many virgins you get to de-virginize in the afterlife? By the way, do female Muslims get their own virgin males or eunuchs to wait on them hand and foot?

If you aren't Hindu, do you care if you're not reincarnated as a cow? Well, it's a far sight better than being reincarnated as an ant.

Truth is, I often wonder about the afterlife... but then, since 99% of all the religions ever made tell me I'm not going to their version of heaven, I'm not sweating it.

Sandali lang... virgins in Paradise? I think we should all be Muslim...

[theveed]

Taas ng UV radiation sa heaven siguro... Hmm...

[Flagg]

and only the faithful are "saved"?
those non-believers are doomed to hell with satan?

Catholicism has some doctrines regarding this situation.

I'm sorry, I forgot na what they're called, but basically, those who live according to God's teachings are saved... even if they aren't Catholic.

Parang si sir city, natalo nya yung deadly sin na Pride, so punta na sya Heaven.

I wonder what Atheist's Heaven looks like? Siguro medyo high-tech to explain floating around in the clouds.

[Flagg]

...Parang gusto ko ngang magtayo ng kulto e. With mandatory tithing and ritual virgin deflorations hehehe I'll have my own little empire, complete with a bunch of idiots I can shaft anytime (literally and figuratively), who I can command to sacrifice their lives if I feel like it. Plus may tagalinis pa ako ng mga kotse at eroplano that I'll have bought from all their contributions.

Sige sir chip. Ikaw Prophet, ako yung High Priest.

Sayo na mga virgins, akin nalang mga 'Gateways to Heaven'. :evillaugh

[Flagg]

Bible is written by men not god! Binobola lang tayo niyan! Believe in yourself! Listen to the advice of others,judge the decision, learn from your mistake! correct them! Apply what is right. You create your own destiny, you are the God! There's no other other god but you!

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Tingnan mo si sir M54.

[Bogeyman]

Catholicism has some doctrines regarding this situation.

I'm sorry, I forgot na what they're called, but basically, those who live according to God's teachings are saved... even if they aren't Catholic.

What I remember them claiming is, if you adopt an attitude of "Do what thou will" i.e. living your life in any which way except according to the Church's teachings, you're an automatic shoo-in for eternal damnation.