Not everything in the Bible is true...

[Psalm136:2]

Sir Psalm... I hope you don't mind... I was kidding about the computers, but I just wanna find out... Why does the Bible stop at Revelation? What do the ancient peoples have that we don't? (Well, aside from cleaner air. )

Ok lang po sir. It's not what the ancient peoples have, it's what the message of God to the people... then... now... and in the next generation... till the second coming. That's what matters.

The Bible stopped there mainly because that's the final message for man. What hell looks like and what heaven looks like, also the final destination of man and Lucifer. Sounds intriguing di po ba?

[Psalm136:2]

and you certainly believe that your interprtetation is correct

Well, if it's from God, it's certainly correct. Kaya nga po one must not try to interpret, God only said; study and meditate. By meditating on a particular verse/s, you'll understand what God is trying to tell you... only you... not to other people.

This is how God communicates with man, thru His Word.

[Psalm136:2]

Tapos na? hehe... It was a fun thread to discuss IMO...

Dun naman tayo sa Pope vs. Islam thing hehehe. Lipat mga kapatid.

Mahirap dun sir. Masyadong mainitin mga muslim when it comes to their religion. Di ko tuloy maintindihan ang logic behind one of their doctrines: "Islam is the most tolerant religion"

[Psalm136:2]

Sorry, OT yata yung last post ko.

[kinyo]

Well, if it's from God, it's certainly correct.

Who said it's from God?

[Psalm136:2]

Who said it's from God?

The Bible is the written Word of God, if this is what you meant with your question.

If your asking about the so called "interpretation", ang tao kasi mas gusto nilang pakinggan tong word na to instead of what God has said on what to do with the Bible.

Now God also said in His Word; "test every spirit". You'll know. Satan is a great deceiver.

[Chip]

For argument's sake :

What if organized religion is a tool of satan, making people kill, marginalize, pillage, plunder, rape, ostracize and whatnot, all in the name of what they think is for their God?
Mention God and you can get away with anything.

EDIT:
AYAN! may naisip na rin akong question ahihihi
thanks sir flagg, theveed, psalm and everyone else for holding the fort ahihihi

[kinyo]

The Bible is the written Word of God ...

as claimed by the Bible itself?

[Flagg]

Ok lang po sir. It's not what the ancient peoples have, it's what the message of God to the people... then... now... and in the next generation... till the second coming. That's what matters.

The Bible stopped there mainly because that's the final message for man. What hell looks like and what heaven looks like, also the final destination of man and Lucifer. Sounds intriguing di po ba?

Meaning God doesn't have anything more to say to us? Parang kawawa naman tayo. Kasi parang walang explanation for the stuff in Revelation.

Like why create something in Book 1 (Genesis) only to destroy it in Revelation? Ano tayo? Experiment?

For me kasi, Revelation describes a more personally spiritual event, rather than a global catastrophe. Kinda like Jesus meaning His body when He said "this Temple".

[Flagg]

For argument's sake :

What if organized religion is a tool of satan, making people kill, marginalize, pillage, plunder, rape, ostracize and whatnot, all in the name of what they think is for their God?
Mention God and you can get away with anything.

EDIT:
AYAN! may naisip na rin akong question ahihihi
thanks sir flagg, theveed, psalm and everyone else for holding the fort ahihihi

Haha sir chip! May sagot me dyan!

Always remember na hindi yung tool may kasalanan. It is the MAN.

Kung pumayag si man na ang TOOL nya ay gamitin sa kasamaan, wala naman magawa ang tool kundi manindigan, diba?

Di naman pwede i-advocate ang destruction ng tool. Kawawa naman si man kung wala syang tool. :evillaugh

[oldblue]

Meaning God doesn't have anything more to say to us? Parang kawawa naman tayo. Kasi parang walang explanation for the stuff in Revelation.

Like why create something in Book 1 (Genesis) only to destroy it in Revelation? Ano tayo? Experiment?

For me kasi, Revelation describes a more personally spiritual event, rather than a global catastrophe. Kinda like Jesus meaning His body when He said "this Temple".

ang tanong pano yun mga patay na, ma-experience ba nila yun global catastrophe? ang malas naman yun generation na aabutan ng revelation, nag-eearthquake na tapos tatakutin ka pa ng heavens.

[oldblue]

Haha sir chip! May sagot me dyan!

Always remember na hindi yung tool may kasalanan. It is the MAN.

Kung pumayag si man na ang TOOL nya ay gamitin sa kasamaan, wala naman magawa ang tool kundi manindigan, diba?

Di naman pwede i-advocate ang destruction ng tool. Kawawa naman si man kung wala syang tool. :evillaugh

tama sir flagg! it's like holding and firing your first gun. if you feel that the gun is giving you power, then you'll have first glance kung ano pagkatao mo.

same as power. if you're an advocate of peace tapos at the first instance of hostility towards you, eh gumanti ka. sort of, pag nag-argabyado ka sa parking lot ng isang driver, tapos guguhitan mo or be-break fluid mo yun tsikot nya. yan ang totoo pagkatao mo when you have power.

ganun din religion.

[Chip]

corny nyo naman, wala akong mahanap na butas sa sagot na yan

OT:
Couldn't free will have been created in such a way that we only do good? Think about it, God is omnipotent, so rules dont apply to him. 1+1 does not necessarily equal 2 for God. So couldn't he have made us with free will yet still prevent us from doing evil?

[Jun aka Pekto]

REPENT Y'ALL! The end is near!........... As you were! I'm just trying to see if that certificate error shows up here. Nope, I'm fine.

Ummm. You guys can continue your group hug......

[oldblue]

corny nyo naman, wala akong mahanap na butas sa sagot na yan

OT:
Couldn't free will have been created in such a way that we only do good? Think about it, God is omnipotent, so rules dont apply to him. 1+1 does not necessarily equal 2 for God. So couldn't he have made us with free will yet still prevent us from doing evil?

pag free will in such a way that we only do good ... goodwill na tawag dun


j/k lang po.

[Psalm136:2]

For argument's sake :

What if organized religion is a tool of satan, making people kill, marginalize, pillage, plunder, rape, ostracize and whatnot, all in the name of what they think is for their God?
Mention God and you can get away with anything.

EDIT:
AYAN! may naisip na rin akong question ahihihi
thanks sir flagg, theveed, psalm and everyone else for holding the fort ahihihi

Sir, hindi na dapat "what if..." to, cause it's already happening. Just look around, in your baranggay, town, city, country, etc. "They're everywhere!" (ala converse commercial)

[Psalm136:2]

as claimed by the Bible itself?

Claimed by the faithful. Of course if one doesn't believe in it, then it could be the greatest history book ever written (another purpose of it, if you may).

[niky]

RE: Tolerance and Islam: It's less a reflection on the religion itself and more a reflection on certain Muslim fundamentalists and the hardliners dedicated to Shi'a law. Not all Muslims are fundamentalist, and I've known some very relaxed ones in my time.

Problem is, a lot of Muslims are very devout, and are easily misled by leaders with political or military aims in mind... it's really up to the moderates to make themselves be heard and show the world that Osama bin Laden, the Hezbollah and the Iraqi President aren't the only faces of Islam.

Pero natatawa ako when I see "protests" of a few hundred or a few thousand fundamentalist rioters on TV... parang yung "hakot" crowd style ng Philippines... very overhyped...

Carry on... :cheers:

[Psalm136:2]

Meaning God doesn't have anything more to say to us? Parang kawawa naman tayo. Kasi parang walang explanation for the stuff in Revelation.

God still has a lot of things to say to us, but not necessarily adding more books to the Bible as man seems fit. Mas maswerte nga tayo, merong available na Bible, anytime, anywhere. Just imagine yourself living during those days, mas mahirap at mas kawawa.

Like why create something in Book 1 (Genesis) only to destroy it in Revelation? Ano tayo? Experiment?

Uy! Maganda to sir. Eto para mas intriguing ang dating: "everyone who is called by My name; for I have created him for My glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him." - Isaiah 43:7

For me kasi, Revelation describes a more personally spiritual event, rather than a global catastrophe. Kinda like Jesus meaning His body when He said "this Temple".

You're absolutely right.

[Psalm136:2]

corny nyo naman, wala akong mahanap na butas sa sagot na yan

OT:
Couldn't free will have been created in such a way that we only do good? Think about it, God is omnipotent, so rules dont apply to him. 1+1 does not necessarily equal 2 for God. So couldn't he have made us with free will yet still prevent us from doing evil?

Yes He could have, but let's look at this analogy:
Ginawa ka ng tatay at nanay mo. Pinalaki ka sa maayos na disiplina. Pero, kaya ka ba nilang pigilan kung "iniisip" mong gumawa ng masama? Specially when you're on your own or with your barkadas?