Not everything in the Bible is true...

[qman]

maybe...read job...god and satan made a bet. .

Bet?
It was a test of faith

[qman]

if we are to study and analyze..who committed the first sin?..it's not eve...it's lucifer right?..he was the one claimed to have rebelled against god because of pride....pride is the first sin comitted. but wait..where was lucifer when he comitted rebellion?..isn't he in heaven with god>?...meaning sin is allowed in heaven?...so if we all die and went to heaven..there is a possibility that we will again commit sin in heaven?..hard to picture everything in perspective really...this beats me too.

Eve was the first sinner, asa Genesis nga storya nya eh first book of torah.

Lucifer story was on the book of Isiah 14, i think pang twelve ng book ang isiah at sya po ay di tao isa syang anghel di nga allowed ang kasalanan sa heaven kanya nga pinatapon sya.

[city]

Bet?
It was a test of faith

O I agree it was a test of faith alright. No doubt about that. A test of faith of one mortal where all other lives around this mortal was disregarded.

What was at stake here really that gives this two character the thrill of playing with lives?

[city]

Eve was the first sinner, asa Genesis nga storya nya eh first book of torah.

Lucifer story was on the book of Isiah 14, i think pang twelve ng book ang isiah at sya po ay di tao isa syang anghel di nga allowed ang kasalanan sa heaven kanya nga pinatapon sya.

the act was done in heaven.

san ba sya tinapon? sa hell? so this will mean may hell na before earth and man was created. If there was already a hell, was satan the first prisoner?

does anybody have a reference book what was happening even before the earth was created by god? Was god alone in the beginning and created the angels? Or was everything simultaneously created?

[CoDer]

the act was done in heaven.

san ba sya tinapon? sa hell? so this will mean may hell na before earth and man was created. If there was already a hell, was satan the first prisoner?

does anybody have a reference book what was happening even before the earth was created by god? Was god alone in the beginning and created the angels? Or was everything simultaneously created?

City, your question will never be answered.

[empy]

ano kaya itsura ni Eve? isipin mo, lahat ng hotties sa mundo sa kanya nagmula... :inlove:

but on the other hand, lahat din ng mga pangit sa mundo galing din sa kanya :evillaugh

[BlueBimmer]

nye 50/50? hahahahaa

[Luap]

this is the reason why Adam gave in into temptation.

Sa hardin ng Paraiso ...
Adam: Lord, di ko na kaya ang tukso ng ahas sa akin!
Lord: Maging matatag ka, anak. Ano ba ang tukso sa iyo?
Adam: SUPOT! SUPOT!

[oldblue]

ano kaya itsura ni Eve? isipin mo, lahat ng hotties sa mundo sa kanya nagmula...
but on the other hand, lahat din ng mga pangit sa mundo galing din sa kanya

malamang pangit si Adam kaya 50/50

[empy]

malamang pangit si Adam kaya 50/50

good point. hindi ko naisip yan :bwahaha:

[Flagg]

you know what i don't get about my religion (catholicism)? original sin? wtf is that?

why am i accountable for an act that one of my ancestors committed? or is this a metaphor for how man is inherently evil and must be "saved"? because i don't believe that either.

i have plenty enough to be sorry about and repent to my God without some dude from history piling it on

Pride po yung original sin sir M54 (di ka-menyekan), it's something we all have. You're proud of you're special trait, and I'm proud of you. Pride goeth before a fall.

Wow ang haba na pala nito, been neglecting this thread, gotta earn my share.

Sir city, free will: like I said before, God ain't Commie. He won't zap the young girl's malefactors, any more than you would smack your daughter's bullies. You always have a choice. There will be consequences for each choice but the important thing is you will have a choice. For example, the choice was made to send the young girl out alone. Consequence, it just so happened 2 a$$holes were in the area.

Now the 2 a$$holes had their fun (exercising their free will to disobey the will of God). Among the numerous next choices is confess and fry. Yes even this is possible, Ted Bundy moved to Florida specifically because it had the death penalty.

Somehow, some way, God will make His will done. But it will always be through the free choice (free will) of man. (eg: through the hard work of their family justice was done: Maureen Hultman, Vizconde family, etc.)

Btw, am sending my kid to Gracie Jujitsu class. Ehehe. Righ there's another example. You're choice is to teach your kid to nobly turn the other cheek. My choice is to teach my kid to kick ass.

Free will = the ability to make a choice.

[Flagg]

malamang pangit si Adam kaya 50/50

E sir, yung mga malambwot na 50/50 dyan. Saan kayah ghalingh?

[Flagg]

ano kaya itsura ni Eve? isipin mo, lahat ng hotties sa mundo sa kanya nagmula... :inlove:

So far sir, yung reconstruction ng earliest known female skeleton (Olduvai gorge ca40,000 yrs) kamukha si... Whitney Tyson.

[CoDer]

Bah! tatlong post na mag kakasunod.

Additional 10% share for sir Flagg.

[city]

Pride po yung original sin sir M54 (di ka-menyekan), it's something we all have. You're proud of you're special trait, and I'm proud of you. Pride goeth before a fall.

Wow ang haba na pala nito, been neglecting this thread, gotta earn my share.

Sir city, free will: like I said before, God ain't Commie. He won't zap the young girl's malefactors, any more than you would smack your daughter's bullies. You always have a choice. There will be consequences for each choice but the important thing is you will have a choice. For example, the choice was made to send the young girl out alone. Consequence, it just so happened 2 a$$holes were in the area.

Now the 2 a$$holes had their fun (exercising their free will to disobey the will of God). Among the numerous next choices is confess and fry. Yes even this is possible, Ted Bundy moved to Florida specifically because it had the death penalty.

Somehow, some way, God will make His will done. But it will always be through the free choice (free will) of man. (eg: through the hard work of their family justice was done: Maureen Hultman, Vizconde family, etc.)

Btw, am sending my kid to Gracie Jujitsu class. Ehehe. Righ there's another example. You're choice is to teach your kid to nobly turn the other cheek. My choice is to teach my kid to kick ass.

Free will = the ability to make a choice.

i think you overlooked the innocent victim, just as you would ovelook all other victims in the bible..victims are always taken for granted in trying to fit freewill and/or test of faith.

The innocent child got raped and slaughtered....san dito pumasok yung sinasabi mong freewill? Put yourself in the child's position.

Clearly, these things are not about freewill. These things happen because that's the way it is.

[5Speed]

uhmmmm....3 sheets na lang at 30 pages na...:lol

[oldblue]

uhmmmm....3 sheets na lang at 30 pages na...:lol

wah na piga na me. hohummmm

[Flagg]

i think you overlooked the innocent victim, just as you would ovelook all other victims in the bible..victims are always taken for granted in trying to fit freewill and/or test of faith.

The innocent child got raped and slaughtered....san dito pumasok yung sinasabi mong freewill? Put yourself in the child's position.

Clearly, these things are not about freewill. These things happen because that's the way it is.

She had the free will not to go to the store diba?

These things happened as a result of man's free will. For better or worse.

[Flagg]

Bah! tatlong post na mag kakasunod.

Additional 10% share for sir Flagg.

Ehehe. Pede na share ko & some Holy Kettle Corn.

[Luap]

flagg,

you really are a Godsent. 3 more pages and you will receive your 10% plus a date with
the McDo girl