Local discrmination?

[Jun aka Pekto]

It's not confined naman to Pinoys, it's a universal trait.

Americans residing in the East Coast usually make fun of Southerners, or those with Southern accents. Same thing in Germany, wherein pronunciation of certain words can reflect your economic background, and thus subject the speaker to condescension.

I've been to the east coast. The northerners may get amused by the southern accent. But, they don't look down on the guy like he's trash the way many Tagalogs do on Bisaya folks.

Count my mom as one. That's why we haven't been on speaking terms for years now. She always say I'm welcome to come home anytime. But, my "Bisaya" wife will have to stay outside. Very frustrating......

Add:
Yup. It's very frustrating. It's sad to know my daughters may grow up never having met their other grandma....

[mazingerZ]

I am an ilonggo, and I frequently fly to manila on business trips. Funny thing is that Manila folks tend to still believe that napakarural pa ng lugar namin. As in meron nga nagsabi na magsawa na raw akong manood ng sine kasi baka wala raw sa amin ng mga sinehan. And they make fun of the way we speak, but one thing i noticed was that, we rural folks still practice proper grammar. Sa kanila nga e bunging english (meron pang mga pasakalyeng "kasi you know, basta its like ". I have no quarrels with urbanites but medyo irritating na rin kung minsan. peace

[KBR]

I've been to the east coast. The northerners may get amused by the southern accent. But, they don't look down on the guy like he's trash the way many Tagalogs do on Bisaya folks.

Count my mom as one. That's why we haven't been on speaking terms for years now. She always say I'm welcome to come home anytime. But, my "Bisaya" wife will have to stay outside. Very frustrating......

Add:
Yup. It's very frustrating. It's sad to know my daughters may grow up never having met their other grandma....

WOW! like d*mn! is that for realz!? that is soo messed up!

well, I have a Girlfriend and she's Ilocano.. but was born and raised in Quezon City. good thing her parents & the rest of her family is hella cool with me, even though I'm part Visayan and all. but man, if I had that same situation like you and your wife.. and if my momma said something like that, Id be so pissed as hell. lolz!


aite, peace.

[6shooter]

Yan ang malaking problema sa kapwa natin pinoy local or abroad. I was in the U.S Navy for 21 yrs. and saw too many pinoy serving in the armed forces na walang unity kundi puro tsismis laban sa kapwa pinoy. I dont realy know what is the root cause for not being one as blood by blood, instead they push away that chances to get along each other since we are the few. In the civilian life too, much much worse.

Ang pagiging "racist" ng pinoy ay nanggagaling sa magulang at bahay. Palagay niyo po saan natututo ang bata? Isa sa pinaka doble cara ang Pinoy. Sa harap ng ibang lahi ang bait pero di natin alam kung ano ang iniisip. Mata-pobre at "racist" din ang pinoy dahil sa media. Sino po ang pinagtatawanan sa TV at pelikula kundi ang mga tao na "iba" maging sa kulay o sa pananalita.

[6shooter]

i was born in manila, grew up in bicol, then moved to cavite and studied in manila. worked in the US and now have a business in the visayas! (yes i'm an old f*rt!)

i have close friends in all the places i've been and in my opinion, those who discriminates are usually the uneducated or the ones who didn't learn from their education! :peace:

Ibig niyo po sabihin na nag mga magaling nating kasama sa media ay mal edukado?

[n2knee]

ang napansin ko lang po, isa ang mga pinoy sa mga pinaka racist.

[pup2]

I actually find the visayan accent cute when it's used for visayan languages ... hindi nga lang bagay when used for tagalog or english. Baka naman yun lang ang issue at ka-OA an lang yang kay Pimentel. IMHO, yung talagang nagdi-discriminate, hindi pa nakakapaglibot ng Pinas at nakakakita ng ganda niya -- kaya Tara na! Biyahe tayo!

[XTO]

history showed that in 17th and 18th centuries filipinos has been continuously discriminated by foreign nationalities. all of them are gone but the blood are still flowing within us and the result is this: filipinos against fellow filipinos

[Jun aka Pekto]

WOW! like d*mn! is that for realz!? that is soo messed up!

well, I have a Girlfriend and she's Ilocano.. but was born and raised in Quezon City. good thing her parents & the rest of her family is hella cool with me, even though I'm part Visayan and all. but man, if I had that same situation like you and your wife.. and if my momma said something like that, Id be so pissed as hell. lolz!


aite, peace.

It sure is. I love my mom for giving me life and raising me. But, I can't abide by that behavior of hers. Her hatred is venomous in the utmost way even after all these years.

I'm resigned at this point. But, I have a family of my own to mind and can't dwell on the situation. Life goes on.....

[jeffrocks]

Local and International discrimination are everywhere,you can't blame them for that... some because of life status/standings, others due to security/safety reasons, colors/features/smells...you have to be careful nowadays who you are dealing with...

[mang ponso]

ang napansin ko lang po, isa ang mga pinoy sa mga pinaka racist.

This could be true. Mostly, kababayans with slightly darker complexion are sometimes looked down upon as opposed to mestizas/mestizos. Most villains/contrabida in films and tv's are mostly with darker complexion whereas mestizos are the bidas. Tingin ko lang.

[explorer]

Local and International discrimination are everywhere,you can't blame them for that... some because of life status/standings, others due to security/safety reasons, colors/features/smells...you have to be careful nowadays who you are dealing with...

are you telling us that it is ok to practice discrimination?

[theveed]

"you can't blame them for that"????

maybe you mean "can't do anything about that"?

[fayet]

ilang beses ko na rin ho naranasan napagtatawanan ng mga kaibigan, kakilala kaklase, kasamahan sa trabaho, ( pati ho kasama kong ilocano d2 sa work ko ngayun), ilocana po ako pero laking mindanao, at young age luzon visayas mindanao at dubai npuntahan ko na,natuto magsalita/umintindi ng iba't ibang dialect, ilocano, bisaya, surigaonun, chavacano, kapampangan, ilonggo, tausug, maranao pro npagtatawanan parin.. d ko na ho pinapansin, mgtawa sila hanggang gusto nila hindi ko nman po kawalan.. :D

[Jun aka Pekto]

I wouldn't go so far as saying Pinoys are racists. Prejudiced? Maybe. But "racist" would be too strong a term. There are differences between being prejudiced and being racist. It's kind of like the difference between manslaughter and murder. Both are still bad.

Almost everyone have prejudices which is probably what that other guy meant when he said it's all over the world. Prejudice can be minimized by being tolerant and understanding other cultures/not being ignorant. Being racist has no cure.

Considering the popularity of hiphop* among Pinoy's, I honestly doubt many Pinoys are racist.


*I'd be an exception because I grew up with heavy metal and I'm too old to change my tastes

I'm also trying to see what some of my own prejudices are. I really don't have too many because I don't have much interest in people.

Here's one that may come close:

I do recall wondering why a Pinoy (who walked by our house) was wearing baggy oversized pants, oversized sports jacket, Nike high tops, and a snowcap when it's freaking 115F/46C outside. Me, I was sitting on a lawn chair up front in the shade with a beer and was half-tempted to wear nothing but my boxer brief and tank tops. I felt it was much too hot. Then, here's a Pinoy (teen, young adult?) walking by all covered up. He could've at least brought some bottled water with him.

What's amusing is we have an African-American neighbor up who lives a few houses down. He was washing his black Dodge Charger SRT8 and had some hip hop tunes blaring. He was wearing shorts and was shirtless (probably to show off his pecs and biceps). He saw that same Pinoy. He turned towards my direction and shook his head. I just shrugged back and chilled. I went back to watching girls in their bathing suits/bikinis walk to the swimming pool.

[Type 100]

We can't deny it's there, but it's up to us whether we join in the regionalistic bandwagon or not.

I'm proud of my colleagues because we tend to be open to new things, such as the Manila- or Luzon-based ones learning the Visayan/Cebuano language. No regionalism or discrimination there.

If you remember your Philippine history, this exact same thing is what led to Andres Bonifacio's death in Cavite more than a century ago by Aguinaldo's men. Di magkasundo yung mga taga-Kawit at taga-Intramuros kahit lahat sila Katipunero. Talaga naman!

[redorange]

Don't tell me Gil has been sleeping under a rock and only just now found out about this problem......

The problem's been around since I can remember.

If it was just the movie, then things can be forgiven. But, it's a lot worse than a mere slip of the tongue.

My wife is Visayan and I'm living that nightmare right now.

My Philippine heritage has been a love/hate (90/10?) thing. This just happens to fall under hate, joining the crab mentality part.

Add: That's also why I shun separate Fil-AM organizations based on dialect or province/region here in the US. It breeds this kind of behavior. Too many Pinoys make a big deal of their dialect/province or whatever college in the Philippines they graduated from..... They're not happy to be simply Pinoys....

I'm half Ilocano and half Tagalog(Bulacan) and I feel the discrimination from my full blooded Ilocano cousins during family get togethers. But I know what you mean about the FilAm organizations as my dad who is Ilocano was told by some groups that my dad was free to join as long as he didn't bring my mom, needless to say he told them to go to hell. But this regionalism is also the main reason that even though Pinoys are the second largest Asian group in the US we also have the least polical representation among the Asian community. Heck, the Japanese, Indians, and Koreans who we out number have more clout than we do.

sir, kahit ako din dito sa US na experience ko din yan. one time I asked someone kung ano nationality niya.. sabi sa akin "Hawaiian" (which dapat talaga American, kasi state ng America ang Hawaii) anywayz, yung pag alis ko, na bigla nalang ako nung narinig ko siyang mag Ilocano!! .. talagang "Feeling" ng loko! lolz!


wow! hindi ko alam yan ha! man, thats really bad! I too have some friends (even the older generations) that served in the Military and I havent heard anything like that. well, baka siguro hindi lahat ganon.

but then again, it is so true na once na nasa labas sila (civilian) wether if your in the Military or not, haaayy naku. ayan na ang yabangan.


thats good, at least you never acted like a d!ck to them. Visayans are actually nice people compared to others. mas madaling matawa ang mga bisaya at madaling maki sama.

I know this since that I'm also part Visayan.. well my mother was from Mindanao and my dad was from Cebu, but I was born and raised in Pasay City, Manila.

anywayz, me growing up in Manila being part "bisaya" was also difficult ever since I was young. kasi sa Manila, once na malaman nila na Bisaya ka (or kahit na part bisaya ka) eh pag tatawanan at pag ti-tripan ka ng mga kaklase at mga kaibigan mo, which is really messed up in my opinion. biruin mo, kahit bata pa lang eh marunong na silang mang-hate sa kapwa. eh paano nalang pag tumanda na?

buti nalang hindi ako lumaki ng ganun, same as my whole family and relatives.. we never hate on other fellow kababayans based on their Dialect or Religion.

kaya dito sa amin (Bay Area), madami akong mga ka tropa na Tagalog, Bisaya, Ilocano at Kapampangan. I have so many friends out here since na marunong akong MAKISAMA.



aite, peace.

You have to understand the Filipino history in Hawaii as most of the early Filipinos there were from Ilocos and they were the one's working the pineapple plantation. It's was only later that Filipinos from other region arrived in Hawaii, it's also why the region with the largest presence there is Ilocos. I'm surprised he didn't say Ilocano when you asked because a lot still give that reply instead of saying Filipino. Others do consider themselves Hawaiian because they are 3rd or 4th generation born in Hawaii and speak only English and Ilocano. Just look at Brian Viloria when he fought in the Olympics for the US not once did he mention being Pinoy but he was always introduced as Hawaiian, it was only later on when he jumped on the Manny bandwagon did he acknowledge being Pinoy.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I'm half Ilocano and half Tagalog(Bulacan) and I feel the discrimination from my full blooded Ilocano cousins during family get togethers. But I know what you mean about the FilAm organizations as my dad who is Ilocano was told by some groups that my dad was free to join as long as he didn't bring my mom, needless to say he told them to go to hell. But this regionalism is also the main reason that even though Pinoys are the second largest Asian group in the US we also have the least polical representation among the Asian community. Heck, the Japanese, Indians, and Koreans who we out number have more clout than we do.

Sigh....... I feel more at ease with the Vietnamese. Hmmm. Nice rhyme.

[mark_t]

I am an ilonggo, and I frequently fly to manila on business trips. Funny thing is that Manila folks tend to still believe that napakarural pa ng lugar namin. As in meron nga nagsabi na magsawa na raw akong manood ng sine kasi baka wala raw sa amin ng mga sinehan. And they make fun of the way we speak, but one thing i noticed was that, we rural folks still practice proper grammar. Sa kanila nga e bunging english (meron pang mga pasakalyeng "kasi you know, basta its like ". I have no quarrels with urbanites but medyo irritating na rin kung minsan. peace

Ang pakiramdam ko mas maganda quality ng education sa probinsya.

[mark_t]

I am an ilonggo, and I frequently fly to manila on business trips. Funny thing is that Manila folks tend to still believe that napakarural pa ng lugar namin. As in meron nga nagsabi na magsawa na raw akong manood ng sine kasi baka wala raw sa amin ng mga sinehan. And they make fun of the way we speak, but one thing i noticed was that, we rural folks still practice proper grammar. Sa kanila nga e bunging english (meron pang mga pasakalyeng "kasi you know, basta its like ". I have no quarrels with urbanites but medyo irritating na rin kung minsan. peace

Ang pakiramdam ko mas maganda quality ng education sa probinsya.
Kahit nga ako nahahawa na sa tinu tukoy mo. Parang nakakapag practice lang ako ng tamang grammar pag me mga bisita kami na taga province.
I use to travel a lot and i am always very carefull in speaking tagalog, because out of the centers if you speak tagalog you are either a tourist or
The Philippine Army.

My family is Tagalog, Ibanag and Bikol mix, i have noticed this kinds of discrimination growing up. My Tagalog folks discriminate against Pilipino (manila type of tagalog) speakers, the my Ibanag side only speaks English, Ibanag and Ilokano if there are guests. My Bikol side would speak in bikol, make sarcastic remarks in tagalog argue in Spanish, and consider everyone that speaks slow stupid.

As for me I speak Pilipino,Bikol and English.And can follow conversations in ilongo,spanish. Never learned Ibanag.