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    #21
    grabe naman ang resulta!!!!siguro hindi lang yung system kung hindi baka yung mga bata wala na gana mag-aral..sana bigyan pansin ito ng gobyerno natin...dapat kasi mataas ang budget for education...grabe talaga!!!

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    #22
    parang yung pinalabas last week sa imbestigador.sabi pa nga nung ininterview dun ng GMA7 hindi na daw naaabsorb ng mga student ang mga pinag aaralan nila..

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    #23
    IMO, one reason for the deterioriation in the quality of our education is the very low wages for our teachers, a lot of good ones have left for abroad, leaving the mediocre ones to tend to the classrooms. This is a very important factor, good teachers capture the attention of the students, that way the lessons are fully absorbed, bad teachers bore you to sleep.

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    #24
    i agree.. at baket walang budget? kase kinukurakot. root of all problems yan corruption. may mga ripple effects nde lang sa educational system....
    so sad.

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    #25
    tama ka tsinita..nakaka-asar yung mga politiko na ang gara ng mga sasakyan..may nakita pa akong congressman naka VWtoureg!!!!panu kaya ma-afford un kung wla kurakot????mga teacher sa public malamang wala gana magturo mababa na sweldo pati benefits walang kwenta dahil GSIS diba palugi ata...hay..grabe...

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    Kita niyo ba yung special episode ng Imbestigador kagabi? Yung isang province, ni classroom wala, sa labas nag tuturo yung teacher. yung bata umiiyak pag di nakakapasok ng school... sayang naman. What would the next generation of pinoys be like without proper education?

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Kita niyo ba yung special episode ng Imbestigador kagabi? Yung isang province, ni classroom wala, sa labas nag tuturo yung teacher. yung bata umiiyak pag di nakakapasok ng school... sayang naman. What would the next generation of pinoys be like without proper education?

    hindi ko napanuod kagabi pero may napanuod ako na un ang feature dati sa channel 2 ata..kawawa talaga..sayang yung mga gusto mag-aral pero mahirap lang sila..dapat maging lesson ito sa mga nag-aaral sa private schools na pabaya, hindi manlang na-appreciate kung ano meron sila...

    Do you guys know "world vision foundation"? they accept donation of P450/month to send a child to school..I invite you to become part of us..

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    EDIT: Additional rant: The fact that Ateneo has a rigid entrance exam for preschool, a qualification exam for their grade school students, to remove the merely "good" students from their high school batch and keep only the "exceptional students", just to prove that they have the best graduates... tha's just plain BULLSH*T right there. Had a cousin who was traumatized by that... being told that even though he passed grade seven, he wasn't good enough for his own school.
    bullshyet nga yan. kung kaya nilang gawing super talino ang isang mahina ang utak come graduation, yan ang proof na they're a great school.
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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by orly_andico
    and another thing.. it's easy to blame the government for being so corrupt, but a bigger problem is that PEOPLE DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES. The government's 2006 budget is 1.3 trillion pesos (or, about $24 billion).

    funny thing is, the Philippine's GDP is $430 billion! (according to the black hats from the CIA World Factbook 2005). that means only about 5% of the local economic activity gets taxed. that's REALLY REALLY LOW. and this is solely due to rampant tax evasion. salary-earners bear the brunt of the tax load (for you professionals out there, you're carrying a tax load of 45% -- about 35% from your income tax, and 10% from VAT, soon to be larger). that means that fixed-income people who are by no means rich, are taxed HALF THEIR INCOME whilst corporations get away with creative accounting practices and avoid corporate income tax.

    moral of the story: if tax collection were even twice as good as it is now (10% collection rate rather than 5%) all our budget woes, even with massive corruption, would disappear. We'd have money for schools, for paying off our debt, for feeding the poor.

    the Philippines IS a poor country, but do you know what the GDP of Malaysia is? $230 billion. almost HALF that of the Philippines. but they managed to put up the Petronas Towers (of course their population is 1/4th that of the Philippines). but still, our country is by no means a lightweight. tax evasion (which is indicative of a lack of patriotism) and not corruption, is what's crippling us.
    I'm keeping this in mind.

    Pero going back, is that really our GDP?

    Kung ganun, it is so high and if that were the case, we should be debt-free and out of poverty by now (since we would only need 1/5th or 4 trillion pesos worth of that amount and the bad state of our poor country would be gone.)

    But what is happening?

    Singapore only has 4 TIMES LESS than what we have but they are way way better than us in EVERY ASPECT!!!

    Also, despite having a GDP total of $234.5 billion, Hong Kong's Debt is only 2 PERCENT of their GDP!

    Corruption, tax evasion, tax collection inefficiencies, etc. but there could be more.

    All in all, what happens next?

    EDIT: Sigh...... must continue reading Business section in the newspapers.
    Last edited by Blackraven; September 5th, 2005 at 12:23 AM.

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    #30
    DepED is not merely dept, it's a business. from textbook suppliers/printers to school construction/"donation per se", yan ang other role ng dept na yan. The sooner parents accept this and just take advantage of whatever (less or more) this dept. can offer to their kids, the easier it is not to totally depend their kids' future on this controversial dept.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
    Kita niyo ba yung special episode ng Imbestigador kagabi? Yung isang province, ni classroom wala, sa labas nag tuturo yung teacher. yung bata umiiyak pag di nakakapasok ng school... sayang naman. What would the next generation of pinoys be like without proper education?
    yes, follow up ata nung last week episode na yng mga text books na gamit nila, 4:1 na nga e mali mali pa....

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueGirl
    Do you guys know "world vision foundation"? they accept donation of P450/month to send a child to school..I invite you to become part of us..
    eto po ang website nila: http://www.worldvision.org.ph/

    instead of just complaining about our gov't and everything, we should divert all of these to more constructive ways.

    dito lang sa office, yung Children's Library project ni Gokongwei, out of all the employees here - wala pa kaming 10 na nag respond to donate.

    BG - create tayo ng new topic for world vision...

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    #33
    That's a good idea!

    At our school, we do our best to help our employees in terms of education... medyo ok nga ang kalagayan ng mga mahirap ng employees namin (comparatively) kasi may libre and/or subsidized na education and medical care... but not many companies have the resources for this (nice to have a hospital and a school in the same place). We also do outreach programs, but it's a shame you can't reach everyone.

    If you want to help in other ways, there are also various organizations that run tutoring centers and schools for charity that are in need of volunteer teachers. Check them out.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    ONE THING you guys have to know about public schools is that the system just doesn't work.

    The major problem is that the cumulative effects of mismanagement in early grades, non-participation of parents in education, and dropping out and absenteeism due to poverty show up by the time the students are "elevated" to grade 6. Many students are merely "promoted" to the next grade, no matter how poor their ability, because the school is overloaded or the child is too old to stay in that grade level. It's very sad.

    And some of our so-called "better" private-schools aren't any better in terms of academics...
    Maybe this holds true for pubic (and private) school system for the last 5-10 years. In my time (this was like ages ago), this was not the case.

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    Pero going back, is that really our GDP?
    i believe it's a CIA estimate and includes the underground economy (the untaxed part). The legal economy is abotu 40% to 50% of that value.

    Kung ganun, it is so high and if that were the case, we should be debt-free and out of poverty by now (since we would only need 1/5th or 4 trillion pesos worth of that amount and the bad state of our poor country would be gone.)
    Not really, because of the government's dismal taxation efficiency. But it does show that we're not as poor as we think we are.


    Singapore only has 4 TIMES LESS than what we have but they are way way better than us in EVERY ASPECT!!!
    According to the CIA, Singapore has a $120B GDP. But their population is ONE TWENTIETH (1/20) of ours. So their citizens collectively earn at least 5X as much as our citizens.

    Corruption, tax evasion, tax collection inefficiencies, etc. but there could be more.
    All in all, what happens next?
    Corruption sucks, yes. But tax evasion sucks more. It's easy to blame the politicians because it's easier than looking at oneself.

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    #36
    kawawa naman status ng education natin here sa 'pinas naging privilege na lang ang quality education while others are suffering sa poor facilities and 2nd-hand torn books at standing-room only classrooms ng public schools even some private schools (no puns intended)

    pwede na tuloy tayong i-compare sa mga schools in poor African countries!

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