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    Nobody was born perfect nor became perfect after spending time and money on education or gaining so much experience. An example that deserves the Darwin awards is the tearing down of the last bell tower in Maasin, southern Leyte that the spaniards built in favor of a less than glamorous or beneficial to the community save the interest of the owner of the building where the bell tower used to stand. Doesn't the Filipinos value history or the potential of the items that belonged to the community for centuries past? I am pretty sure there are things that have happened in the same fashion. The objective is to make the general public be aware of the destruction of parts of our valued heritage.
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    Ano daw?

    Noose bled

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    ^

    Fool daw ung mga pinoy na hindi nag value ng history at heritage. Dugay na kaau tonto pa din.


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    in a country where the daily lives of most of its people are spent earning enough money to buy food for the day PRESERVING HISTORICAL SITES IS NOT ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES

    in a country where government officials only care about enriching themselves PRESERVING HISTORICAL SITES IS NOT ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES

    it's only enlightened people that care about history and want to preserve historical sites for future generations

    Filipinos aren't enlightened people yet

    nasa lower levels of the pyramid palang ang pinoy


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    ever wondered why wala masyado museums and art galleries ang Pinas?

    pero madami malls hehe

    matagal pa evolution ng pinoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ever wondered why wala masyado museums and art galleries ang Pinas?

    pero madami malls hehe

    matagal pa evolution ng pinoy
    Ask anybody where a certain mall is located, alam agad iyan. But where a certain museum is located? Kamot ulo.

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    Mapa-historical site o history pa yan, walang paki ang Pinoy. Binoboto nga nila ulet mga trapo eh.

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    My personal theory is that we're not really proud of our own history/culture, that's why we have little or no regard for such things. I think at the root of it all, we have a sort of identity crisis on the world stage.

    Bakit ganun? Hard to tell. I'va often wondered what should come first, a country we can be proud of before we get a sense of national pride, or national pride and a sense of identity first before we can build a nation we can be proud of. Our ASEAN neighbors have definitely disproven the latter for me.

    And of course, our local politicking/corruption doesn't help. But imho that can be traced to that identity crisis as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    My personal theory is that we're not really proud of our own history/culture, that's why we have little or no regard for such things. I think at the root of it all, we have a sort of identity crisis on the world stage.

    Bakit ganun? Hard to tell. I'va often wondered what should come first, a country we can be proud of before we get a sense of national pride, or national pride and a sense of identity first before we can build a nation we can be proud of. Our ASEAN neighbors have definitely disproven the latter for me.

    And of course, our local politicking/corruption doesn't help. But imho that can be traced to that identity crisis as well.
    300 years of Spaniards brainwashing? They pit Filipinos against each other, pinagaaway mga regions. They implanted the idea that we are indios, mahina isip, kaya maraming pinoy dinodiyos ang mga puti. Tinuruan tayong ubusin ang oras sa pagsamba, ipagpaubaya lahat sa Diyos, para hindi matuon ang isip ng mga pinoy sa problema natin sa espanya. Divide and conquer.

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    nabanggit nga ni uls yung malls, yan na ang priority ng tao ngayon.
    binisita ko fort santiago nung monday, nakakalungkot. ang bagal ng restoration ng mga ruins.
    yung building na ginawang kulungan ni pres. elpidio quirino doon, kulang nalang gibain na.
    ang lapit lang ng malacaņang sa lugar na yan, hindi mapagtuunan ng pansin.
    lalayo pako, eh yung bahay ni felix hidalgo sa quiapo, halos nagkadurug-durog na. kung nakita niyo yung loob nung bahay, may mga paintings ni hidalgo yung ceiling at art works na importante sa historya at kultura nating mga pilipino.
    pero pinabayaang anayin at masira ng tubig ulan.
    buti nalang na salba ng kamag-anak pa niya. yun nga lang yung mga importanteng detalye ng bahay, nawala na.

    yung mansion ng mga enriquez na ginawang unang u.p. fine arts, nasa bataan na ngayon buti nalang kinuha at nirestore ni jerry acuzar.

    wala namang kinalaman mga ginawa ng espanyol satin.
    kalokohan naman yung sisihin mo pa yung nakaraan.
    mga mokong lang talaga mga pinoy at wala lang talaga tayong paki-alam.

    magaling tayo sa gibaan at mabilis sa patayuan ng esem.

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    i agree. most of us do not value our rich heritage. as early as the 16th century, trade with other countries was fully established. the british, dutch, Portuguese and of course, spaniards were here. long before them were the chinese, arabs and malays. sabi ng history teacher ko noon, the reason we are poor is all the fault of president quezon. because of his greed, he declared independence in just a year after liberation. americans and the japanese were mandated to rehab the country but quezon wants to personally manage the rehab efforts. my teacher could be wrong on his assumptions but president quezon was definitely correct when he said we will run by filipinos like hell. this is the hell he was talking about. my history teacher reminded us also that train system were not restored by president quezon during his time. there were trains going north and south before the war. going to antipolo and cavite areas, you have to use the trains. if only the train system was restored, economic development would be quicker for infra is laid down already.
    bit OT but not all filipinos are tontos, our leaders are. ang ganda ng pilipinas. binago lang ni quezon ang takbo ng pinas, napasama tuloy.

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    nakakalungkot nga naman ang mga paunti at paunting mga heritage sites and landmarks na nagigiba to make room for "progress" or a chance to make a quick buck over restoration and conservation. hindi pa nakakaevolve ang pinoy na magkaroon ng historical awareness.

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    I think what the average pinoy is proud of are the number of malls we have in the country. Our value system is all wrong which makes for the wrong priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    ^

    Fool daw ung mga pinoy na hindi nag value ng history at heritage. Dugay na kaau tonto pa din.


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    Not in Negros. We value our heritage and history. Though we do not oppose modernization and progress.

    Retz its supposed to be

    Dugay ka na sa Manila, tonto ka man gihapon!

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    i'm not so sure that our colonial past is to blame. Meron naman diyang ibang former British colonies that are doing quite well. Then again, pansin ko karamihan ng mga former Spanish colonies di rin maganda ang katayuan ngayon.

    i really think that, at the root of it all, we have to be "proud" of ourselves first...proud enough to preserve that dignity no matter what, to put ourselves at a higher level...to believe that we can be better than what we are today. Medyo corny but when you look at Taiwan, South Korea, i firmly believe that they really loved their country even if it's in ruins(post WW2), so much so that they've made it into first rate countries that their children can be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Filipinos aren't enlightened people yet
    Less about enlightenment and more about "who has the money"...

    If you don't want the owner to let a historical building go to waste... given them the money to fix it up.

    A house that Rizal's mother lived at in Binan has fallen into ruin and disrepair, simply because the lot owners don't want to commit the money to fix it.

    If people want these things fixed and maintained... they should just go ahead and come up with the millions required to rebuild them. Then compensate the owners for having to hold onto old buildings that won't contribute anything to their bottom-line... or pay them the big bucks to buy it off their hands.

    While I'm saddened by the loss of some of these historical buildings and structures, heritage is a luxury for the very rich. The Philippines is not very rich.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    the spaniards spent over 300 years telling us we're good for nothing.
    the americans spent 40+ years telling us theirs is better (via the best brainwashing gadget ever... hollywood!).
    the japanese spent 4 years shooting at us.

    the filipino would really have to have insight, to love his own.

    and do you know why matapang tayong gumawa ng kalokohan? because we speak english! we are not afraid to go and hide the states! our asian neighbors, they were (but not anymore) actually afraid to go to the states, because they didn't speak the language.
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