Explosion at Glorietta?

[badkuk]

The bombing, plus the 300 point crash in the US stock market, combined with oil breaking the US$ 90 level...the local stock market will really be screwed come Monday.

monday's gonna be real interesting. i've already posted sell orders on almost all my holdings

A friend told me that he noticed a extra strict security, including K-9 dogs yesterday morning at SM Megamall. He noted it was very strange. Maybe its because of the 3 day weekend sale...or they recieved a tip from somewhere...hmmm.

knee-jerk reaction yan, if only for pakitang tao to make shoppers feel more secure. after a few weeks balik na naman sa dating gawi. no wonder we keep getting sucker-punched.

[claRkEnt]

Hopefully, walang cover-up na mangyari (na basta makakuha lang fall-guy or fall-group.)

No verified Islamic group’s claim to blast, says Razon
By Thea Alberto
INQUIRER.net
Last updated 08:09pm (Mla time) 10/20/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- There is no verified claim of responsibility for the Glorietta 2 explosion from the Rajah Sulaiman Movement, Philippine National Police Director General Avelino Razon said Saturday.

"We are still verifying those reports, as of now all are just speculation," Razon told INQUIRER.net in a phone interview Saturday night.

Reports indicate that a man claiming to be Sheik Omar, a key officer of the RSM, has called up a news outfit to claim responsibility for Friday’s blast. The RSM is an organization of Filipinos who have converted to Islam, saying that they are only reverting back to the original religion in the Philippines before the Spanish conquest.

"The person claiming to be Sheik Omar is not him. The voice clip of the supposed conversation when heard by an arrested RSM [member] Pio de Vera yielded negative results," said Razon.

"The person speaking is a Muslim while Omar is an Ilonggo Muslim convert," he added.

[Odiong929]

..
As far as I know, C4 or plastic explosive can only be accessed by the military.

For me, it does not make sense? The MNLF in the 70's were already using weapons more advance than what the AFP had. They were shipped from outside. C4 is much easier to ship than guns.

[torque2006]

there are tons of c4 available in the black market. you don't even need to import it.

we were at starbucks gb3 when the explosion happened. there was a rumbling sound, followed by a burst of air, then glass panels swayed. we thought something happened in the gb5 construction.

[wrcastro_ph]

let us pray na lang sana ay walang ng sumunod na mga ganitong pangyayari.

..... isa pa, yung mga nag po-post ng foul dyan. sana mahiya naman at di tayo dapat magsaya sa mga ganitong sitwasyon.

[noj]

kakalungkot at nakakatakot everytime something like this happens.

mas nakakalungkot lang reaksyon ni GMA pagkatapos mangyari ito. imbes na manawagan sa tao na maging kalmado lang at sabihing in control ang gobyerno sa sitwasyon., sya naman eh bumanat agad na wag magsamantala ang iba.. tsk tsk tsk.

[Memphis Raines]

...we were at starbucks gb3 when the explosion happened. there was a rumbling sound, followed by a burst of air, then glass panels swayed. we thought something happened in the gb5 construction.

I believe that was the shockwave that followed the explosion.

[froshie1]

Father ko nung evening na iyon may nakausap na isang govt consultant. Hindi sya mainly govt man but hired as a consultant and iyong meeting na iyon sinasabi na malaki ang possibility na gov't may kagagawan. Nag cite sya at mga ka meetings nya ng 2 places to avoid for now - 1.) SM Bic and 2.) Market Market.

Explanation ganito:

1.) Glorietta 2 - para makapag gawa ng isang malaking statement kaya ginawa nila ito sa Glorietta 2 at ito ay nasa Makati. Medyo malapit sa mga camps.

2.) Market market and SM Bic - either of the 2 or parehas silang 2, dahil mas madali i-stage ang kanilang binabalak dahil mas malapit sa mga camps. Impossible ng sa malalayo pang malls dahil malayo din ito sa mga camps.

Ingat ingat na lang. Madami na talagang mga goons dito sa Pinas.

[VtEC]

No offense pero...

Magdiwang na lahat ng OFW's at mga families na tumatanggap ng US DOLLAR remittances dahil siguradong babalik ulit sa 50 pataas ang DOLLAR!

diko mainterrelate ang dollar rate sa nangyari sa glorietta.there are so many ways para sabihing tataas ang rate ng dollar pero hindi sa case na ito.this is a serious matter.we are talking about dead innocent people.

[shadow]

Father ko nung evening na iyon may nakausap na isang govt consultant. Hindi sya mainly govt man but hired as a consultant and iyong meeting na iyon sinasabi na malaki ang possibility na gov't may kagagawan. Nag cite sya at mga ka meetings nya ng 2 places to avoid for now - 1.) SM Bic and 2.) Market Market.

Explanation ganito:

1.) Glorietta 2 - para makapag gawa ng isang malaking statement kaya ginawa nila ito sa Glorietta 2 at ito ay nasa Makati. Medyo malapit sa mga camps.

2.) Market market and SM Bic - either of the 2 or parehas silang 2, dahil mas madali i-stage ang kanilang binabalak dahil mas malapit sa mga camps. Impossible ng sa malalayo pang malls dahil malayo din ito sa mga camps.

Ingat ingat na lang. Madami na talagang mga goons dito sa Pinas.

kakatakot naman, teka lang sino sa gov't mga tao ni GMA or mga taong gusto siyang pabagsakin?

diba meron away ngayon sila JDV and GMA? and few days before nag meeting si JDV, FVR and almonte? tapos nakipag meet din daw si JDV kay Lacson.....hhmmmm....smells fishy....

ito na ang sinasabi na pag nagaaway ang dalawang higante tayong maliliit ang casualties....

I don't believe na sila GMA ang gumawa, maybe people around her na napenetrate na ng opposition if not nila JDV, FVR and company.....remember tao rin ni FVR si executive secretary Ermita.....

I'm hoping na hinde gov't natin ang gumawa, I mean is this how low they can get just to be able to save their positions...i-sacrifice ang mga innocent people....

[claRkEnt]

I'm hoping na hinde gov't natin ang gumawa, I mean is this how low they can get just to be able to save their positions...i-sacrifice ang mga innocent people....

sabi nga sa radyo, "kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan?"

investigation showed that the bomb was planted in the basement. They could have planned it just to create diversion without taking lives, however, they could have miscalculated the power of the blast, thus the resulting disaster.

[shadow]

so does this mean that all roads leads to the gov't as the mastermind? huwag naman sana......

[6shooter]

Father ko nung evening na iyon may nakausap na isang govt consultant. Hindi sya mainly govt man but hired as a consultant and iyong meeting na iyon sinasabi na malaki ang possibility na gov't may kagagawan. Nag cite sya at mga ka meetings nya ng 2 places to avoid for now - 1.) SM Bic and 2.) Market Market.

Explanation ganito:

1.) Glorietta 2 - para makapag gawa ng isang malaking statement kaya ginawa nila ito sa Glorietta 2 at ito ay nasa Makati. Medyo malapit sa mga camps.

2.) Market market and SM Bic - either of the 2 or parehas silang 2, dahil mas madali i-stage ang kanilang binabalak dahil mas malapit sa mga camps. Impossible ng sa malalayo pang malls dahil malayo din ito sa mga camps.

Ingat ingat na lang. Madami na talagang mga goons dito sa Pinas.

kung totoo po iyong sinasabi niyo diba obligasyon niyo na i paalam ito sa mga autoridad? namay alam kayo at ng tinatawag na govt consultant? kundi parang siya rin ay kasangkot dito?

tanong lang po iyon. sana maintindihan niyo.

[6shooter]

so does this mean that all roads leads to the gov't as the mastermind? huwag naman sana......

bakit niyo po nasabi na "all roads leads to" ang pamahalan ang may kagagawan nito? may resulta na po sa imbestigasyon.

ika nga diba po malabo ang sisigaw ng "Sunog!" sa loob ng sinehan?

[VtEC]

kung totoo po iyong sinasabi niyo diba obligasyon niyo na i paalam ito sa mga autoridad? at ng tinatawag na govt consultant? kundi parang siya rin ay kasangkot dito?

you are right 6shooter, pero sa panahon ngayon kanino ka magtitiwala?isa pa di naman confirmed yong sinabi and pwede baligtarin nong nagsabi.malabo kasi magleleak ang ganyan ka sensitibong bagay e.'lam mo naman mga taong me maitim na budhi, di din sila nagtitiwala basta basta sa mga nakapaligid sa kanila.

[afrasay]

buti nalang di ako nag park dun that day, tinatamad akong maglakad kaya sa delarosa ako nag park, mas mahal pero just a stone throw away from the office.

[shadow]

bakit niyo po nasabi na "all roads leads to" ang pamahalan ang may kagagawan nito? may resulta na po sa imbestigasyon.

ika nga diba po malabo ang sisigaw ng "Sunog!" sa loob ng sinehan?

hinde mo naman na-quote yun "does this means......?" eh, nagtatanong nga ako, hinde ko sinabing gov't ang may kagagawan based doon sa post ni froshie kaya ako nagtanong....

wait, *6shooter diba milatary ka or ex-millitary? meron ka na bang narinig sa mga mistah mo?

[6shooter]

hinde mo naman na-quote yun "does this means......?" eh, nagtatanong nga ako, hinde ko sinabing gov't ang may kagagawan based doon sa post ni froshie kaya ako nagtanong....

wait, *6shooter diba milatary ka or ex-millitary? meron ka na bang narinig sa mga mistah mo?

wala nga po. pero kung meron man lang nag amin sa kanila diba dapat i paalam ko? kasi higit sa lahat ang loyalty po natin ay dapat sa bansa at ang mga pilipino. di lang sa isang interest group.

ang nagpagsabog ay mga duwag at "selfish" din po dahil sarili lang nila ang naisip nila at parang di nila magawa man lang na harap harapan.

ask ko lang po...napansin niyo ba na parang di uso dito ang suicide bomber? dahil di po kaya ganun kalakas ang "conviction" ng mga rebelde?

[shadow]

far fetched naman yata itong theory ni william esposo...tingin niyo?or meron basis?

A superpower could be behind the Glorietta blast
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo
Sunday, October 21, 2007 With recent developments fueling stronger anti-American sentiments, superpower geopolitics is turning uglier and even threatens to entangle the Philippines into what is seen as an inevitable war, one that does not eliminate a nuclear possibility.
These developments are, as follows:
1. The forging of the new alliance between Russia and China.
2. The affinity between China and North Korea and the emergent relationship between Russia and Iran. While China has always been a staunch supporter of North Korea, Russia is now backing Iran.
3. The US is most displeased with the nuclear development programs of both North Korea and Iran.
During his official state visit to Iran, Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin, asserted that Iran has the right to develop its nuclear capability for peaceful applications. Putin subsequently warned the US from attacking Iran, as the US had threatened to do time and again.
These developments were accelerated by the US‑led invasion of Iraq which was regarded by superpowers Russia and China as a clear assertion of Anglo-Saxon hegemony. Prior to the Iraq invasion, Russia, China and the US were managing a healthy rapport.
The ill-advised, poorly planned invasion of Iraq upset that status quo and compelled the Russians and the Chinese to anticipate worsening aggression from the US and the UK. Iraq is not just a large chunk of Middle East real estate. At a time when oil prices are climbing amid tighter supply, Iraq happens to be the second largest oil producer in the world.
The US-UK presence in Iraq forced the Russians and the Chinese to renew their old alliance — with India now poised to jump in. That translates to over 2.5 billion of the earth’s inhabitants falling within the Russia-China-India alliance.
Judging from the build-up of pressure from the American and British people to leave Iraq, it becomes even more unthinkable that the US and UK would be able to muster the will to engage the Russia-China-India alliance in a war, whether conventional or nuclear.
The US and UK won’t be able to accept a casualty of easily 500,000 combatants and non-combatants—the realistic estimate from a conventional non-nuclear war that is fought against the Russia-China-India alliance. Think in terms of millions if the war goes nuclear.
Although the Philippines is now right smack in the middle of this superpower game, albeit as an unwitting participant, most of our countrymen are unaware about the real possibility of the country being the target of a nuke attack in the event the worst case scenario plays out.
The squabble and the controversy involving the approval of the ZTE contract actually demonstrates superpower play between American and Chinese companies which submitted bids for the national broadband network. Taken in this light, the project can be considered a serious national security risk whichever country, China or the US, end up supplying it.
Madame Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (GMA) has gone from one end of the superpower tug-of-war to the other. She started as George W. Bush’s “little girl” in Southeast Asia ‑ among the very first to join the Coalition of the Willing that invaded Iraq.
She rushed to join the Iraq War, which is now known to be unjustified, even when this went against the national interest. She should have considered protecting our own oil supply from the Middle East States as well as our Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs) working there.
Had the other Arab States banded together against the invasion coalition and enforced an oil embargo, the Philippines would have been caught in a desperate economic squeeze. Arab retaliation would have also imperiled the status and wellbeing of OFWs in the Middle East.
True enough, GMA did a quick about face and abandoned the Coalition of the Willing when OFW Angelo de la Cruz was held hostage in Iraq. GMA feared that if he is killed, the resulting public outcry back home will undo her.
From being the apple of Bush’s eye, GMA became the target of US ire. From then on, the US was to become the source of very embarrassing, if not destabilizing reports that placed GMA in a bad light.
Having jilted the Americans, GMA ran to the Chinese ‑ the reason why there is so much on the plate now from China. Philippine foreign policy shifted overnight during the Arroyo regime from out and out pro-American to out and out pro-Chinese.
Acting on their own, the junior officers who are against GMA do not pose that great a threat. GMA’s greatest fear is if the US gets involved and encourages the disillusioned junior officers to embark on another military adventure that will reshape the political equation here to suit American interests.
The geopolitical chess game is also the reason why the US is playing a very close watch over Muslim Mindanao, ever ready to use an opportunity to fulfill an old American promise to be the protectorate of an independent Muslim State in Mindanao, once this becomes convenient.
The head of the elite Philippine Marines has expressed concern that the recent political events are affecting the military. The CBCP has issued a very strong statement denouncing the moral bankruptcy of the Arroyo regime.
That is the vaunted combination of the Cross (symbolizing the Catholic Church) and the Sword (symbolizing the military) that engineered EDSA I and EDSA II.
Even an intellectually-challenged US President like George W. Bush can figure out just how to take advantage of that. Based on historical track record, can we rule out the Glorietta blast as a US covert operation?

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Op...id=20071020207

[shadow]

ask ko lang po...napansin niyo ba na parang di uso dito ang suicide bomber? dahil di po kaya ganun kalakas ang "conviction" ng mga rebelde?

pwede....pero tingin ko hinde lang kasi mga tanga ang mga filipinos kahit na mga terrorista pa sila.....