EDSA 4 daw bukas

**jolog1** · October 7th, 2004 08:10 PM

Hindi pa nagre-recover ang economy natin, coup attempt na naman. At any rate, don't drive around Megamall area tomorrow. Siguradong traffic yan.

**kapitan88** · October 7th, 2004 08:13 PM

totoo ba to?

**Bogeyman** · October 7th, 2004 08:22 PM

EDSA 4? 'Yoko na ng ganyan. EDSA 2 was the last real fight. Cliche na eh. Tsaka pag ganyang me leak, hindi nagkaka-totoo. Tignan mo yung Oakwood siege, it caught everyone with their pants down.

Utang na loob naman, hayaan naman nating magtapos ng term si Mini Me, este si Madam President pala. Ginagawa na lang nilang laro ang demokrasya eh.

**mbt** · October 7th, 2004 08:37 PM

one edsa was a grand victory...

two edsas were still a victory, although showed that we never learn...

three edsas were seriously raising eyerbrows...

four edsas will be absolutely pathetic for us as a nation.

**niky** · October 7th, 2004 09:07 PM

EDSA 1 was the real thing.

EDSA 2 was not meant as such, it started as a protest of the apparent subversion of justice by an abusive legislature. The politicos took it and twisted it to their advantage.

EDSA 3 was pathetic, in defense of a President who lost credibility due to the legal idiocy of his supporters in the Senate.

EDSA 4? What for? As far as I see it, old enemies are finally coming together in these times of economic uncertainties. It will be difficult for any one group to try any grandstanding now.

Besides, February is months away.

**ghosthunter** · October 7th, 2004 09:30 PM

let me guess.... they (whoever they are) will be trucking and using busses to get people (paid) from where-ever to edsa/ortigas?

**mbt** · October 7th, 2004 10:02 PM

as long as we keep on looking to EDSA # as the solution to our problems, the more we will never progress as a nation.

as the brilliant conrado de quiros once said, we are a people that lounge for the whole game and only come to life in the last two minutes (or something to that extent).

and there's the problem.

**carlocaraddict** · October 7th, 2004 11:41 PM

I agree with mbt. Nung nag Makati mutiny, nabwisit ako.

**van_wilder** · October 7th, 2004 11:44 PM

bakit successful ang two edsa? kasi yun ang source of power ng country... kahit naman mawala yun mag-rally tomorrow pati nun edsa 3, walang significant changes na mangyayari sa country...

kung nasaan ang pera, pati majority of the businesses, andun ang power... rich people and the working class can do without the poor, but the poor cant do without them...

nkakalungkot pero totoo...

**mbt** · October 7th, 2004 11:49 PM

not really... precisely, the rich class exists because there's a poor class. without the poor class as a source of cheap labor, the rich will be quite compromised

**van_wilder** · October 8th, 2004 12:03 AM

pero they have the money, kung walang rich... walang trabaho ang mahihirap... well, parang taxes and death yan eh, laging andyan...

basta ako masaya ako, hindi ako poor pero hindi rin ako rich... steady lang...

**carlocaraddict** · October 8th, 2004 12:07 AM

oh gosh...i could still remember what happened last May 1, 2001. I could still remember yung nagburn sila ng mga pick-ups ng media. Remember those gossips na nilagayan daw ng drugs yung zesto na dinistribute sa mga masa? and may nag comment pa nga na sobrang agawan ng pagkain yung mga sumali na walang discipline.

**niky** · October 8th, 2004 12:53 AM

Originally posted by van_wilder
bakit successful ang two edsa? kasi yun ang source of power ng country... kahit naman mawala yun mag-rally tomorrow pati nun edsa 3, walang significant changes na mangyayari sa country...

kung nasaan ang pera, pati majority of the businesses, andun ang power... rich people and the working class can do without the poor, but the poor cant do without them...

nkakalungkot pero totoo...

That's a really cynical way to look at it.

The reason both EDSA 1 and 2 succeeded is because the military either supported or refused to act against the demonstrators.... the instigators of EDSA 1 were the priests, the nuns, the students, the middle class...

EDSA 2 wasn't just the old school politicos against Estrada, it was the middle class, the clergy, the students, the radicals... many sectors were present...

Don't say that the 'masa' wasn't at EDSA 2, a lot of us there were 'jologs' too. :D

Unfortunately, EDSA 2 was soon joined by the politicos and businessmen. EDSA 2 wasn't staged or pre-planned, but in the end, it served the purposes of those political opponents of Estrada who saw their opportunity and took it.

EDSA 3 was not really a "pang-masa" movement... it was staged and orchestrated to no effect. It didn't capture anyone's imagination or fire, because of the bluntly political objectives of the demonstration...

In the end, all of the EDSA events ended up benefitting one political party or another... but the difference between the successful ones and the unsuccessful ones is that the successful ones started spontaneously, of the free will of the people, who did not join in support of any political purpose, but rather, against one.

**van_wilder** · October 8th, 2004 01:09 AM

ah yah, factor din yun military... bakit ba sila sumama sa mga demonstrators? hmmmmmm.... kaya po may lifestyle check sila ngayon...

if ang edsa 2 not supported ng businessman walang effect yun... did you know na lucio tan, henry sy, john gokonwei can turn the tides here in the philippines? if naasar sila, pwede silang bumili ng sangkatutak na stocks at ubusin nila ang pera nila dun, then benta nila the next day, para mabawi yun cash... mag-crash lang naman ang economy natin...

sad but true, only a few people have a say in this world... they can live without us, yes we can live without them, but we need them more than they need us...

sabi nga ng prof ko, for every headline story na makikita natin, the real story was not on the next page, it was printed 5 years ago... if you are observant during the 1970s maprepredict mo ang mangyayari tomorrow...

**pink_cadillac** · October 8th, 2004 01:28 AM

Why are people going to flock to EDSA for a 4th time around?

What's the agenda?

**chris_d** · October 8th, 2004 01:40 AM

para may excuse silang wala silang work? investors would scare away from our country if that happens again, it would just show our inherent instability and love for an uprising, even if may seem to be a peaceful one. and of course the rich would seem to benefit from this, uprising may cause the market to fall, but rich people invest wisely, esp in the money market and would clearly benefit once the economy would crash locally.

of course this is just my view, my own opinion, edsa 1 clearly had a reason, but the rest? please....

god help us all. and let us not forget to help ourselves

**momoyster** · October 8th, 2004 01:47 AM

where did all this info come from? our country will never recover if democracy is practiced this way

**chris_d** · October 8th, 2004 01:49 AM

our country may well become a vegetable... in a state of coma...

well, hope this aint true... and if it is, may no one get hurt... except maybe for an idiot or two who knows no better...

**allanraymondr** · October 8th, 2004 01:52 AM

kung buhay pa sila rizal at bonifacio, ano kaya masasabi nila sa mga nangyayari ngayon? hmmm...

**pink_cadillac** · October 8th, 2004 01:55 AM

where did this rumor come from?

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