Anong future ng mga anak natin in store dito sa pinas?

[dbuzz]

Sa makikita lang mukhang malabo eh.

Should we start migrating now before its too late for the sake of our children?
O di naman kaya may pag-asa pa.

Middle class na ba yung kayang mag-maintain ng family of 4 at may sariling bahay/lupa at kotsi? So, ilang ang ganun sa kabuonan natin?

Sa Maynila lang naglipana ang mga squatters at ang daming nilang anak average ng 8anak/fam at walang ipapa-aral na kung tutuusinn sa pagkain lang eh kapos na. so out numbered talaga yung makakita ng good job sa future dahil hindi sufficient ang education nila. madalas pa pag-laki nila, hirap din and a big possibility na maging sa other side of the law sila. i mean carnappers/holduppers/pushers/magnanakaw/etc dala ng kahirapan.

[Flagg]

Boss dbuzz, the jobs are there, yung work ethic lang medyo may problema.

Sa company ko, if 10% of all new recruits last more than a year (meaning good performance), masaya na ako. I don't know why only 10% of the working population have the idea na job = work, instead of job = tambay.

Yung mga nagtatagal sa amin, masaya naman sila. Many have their own house na, may little business for their family, etc.

[uls]

ang future ng mga bata dito sa Pinas ay depende sa magulang.

Depende na yan sa diskarte ng magulang kung paano nila turuan ang mga anak nila para mag survive and mag thrive dito sa ating kakaibang bansa.

Tingnan nyo ung mga younger generation of politicians and businesspeople... naturuan kasi sila ng mga parents nila...

[DonT]

^ I agree with you sir..

I still believe na mas ok pa rin sa pinas.

Kami nga..napalaki kami at napag aral ng aming magulang dahil sa kanila sipag at tiyaga bilang isang empleyado..Nakaraos naman..And compared sa mga pinsan namin..both father side and mother side..who migrated and live most of their lives in the US & Canada..I do not think na we are that far off. I would like to think na mas okay pa rin ang kalagayan ko compared to some of my cousins.

The only difference is..OFW ako now..pero I do not intend to be here for that long. Before I left, I had a goal in mind, As soon as I reach my goal. I will go back. Iba pa rin kasi yung nasusubaybayan ng magulang ang mga anak.

And lastly..live within your means, yan ang turo ng nanay ko.

[uls]

Boss dbuzz, the jobs are there, yung work ethic lang medyo may problema.

Sa company ko, if 10% of all new recruits last more than a year (meaning good performance), masaya na ako. I don't know why only 10% of the working population have the idea na job = work, instead of job = tambay.

Yung mga nagtatagal sa amin, masaya naman sila. Many have their own house na, may little business for their family, etc.

Kasi para sa pinoy, ang trabaho ay PUNISHMENT.

Mas masarap pa tumambay kahit wala pera kesa mag trabaho para sa konting pera.

pero syempre the best is magkapera na hindi kelangan magtrabaho.

hehe

[A121]

ang future ng mga bata dito sa Pinas ay depende sa magulang.

Depende na yan sa diskarte ng magulang kung paano nila turuan ang mga anak nila para mag survive and mag thrive dito sa ating kakaibang bansa.

Tingnan nyo ung mga younger generation of politicians and businesspeople... naturuan kasi sila ng mga parents nila...

+1

sabi sa akin ng tita ko na nasa isteyts, mas gugustihin nyang magretire dito kesa sa US. at syempre, nais ko rin ibalik ung ipinagpapaaral ng mamayan ng pinas sa akin for the past 10 years.

* DonT,

tama ka. nagustuhan ko lalo na ung huli mong linya.

[uls]

I watched an episode of Animal Planet where a mother killer whale teaches here offspring how to hunt seal on the shoreline

The mother killer whale guides her offspring to the shore and together they wiggle their way back into the water.

hanggang sa nagkaroon ng first successful catch ung young killer whale.

Parents should teach their kids how to hunt.

Problem with many parents, marunong lang sila gumawa ng bata, but they dont teach their kids how to survive. The kids are sent out into the world with no skills, no education, no foundation.

[juntzo]

sometimes hardship in life is a very good teacher. my parents are not rich and i remember them telling us 3 brothers that the only thing that they can give us as an inheritance is our education.

so we all persevered until we all graduated. now we all have good jobs and though we are not rich, we don't consider our own families poor!

so what's the point of my rant? it's in the right training of our children. it is not wrong to worry about them but don't worry too much!

but what do i know... i'm now just an old lazy f*rt. hehehe

[gearhead]

After 10 or so years working and living outside with my family doing a regional stint, we returned because I believe that the country can be headed towards a brighter tomorrow. Was offered a better position in another market but we chose to do our part.

It may not seem apparent but there are industries and sectors that are growing or have the potential to grow. The key for my specific endeavour is to look outwards. Of course, I am hoping our venture works well since it may play a small part in helping the country too. We must be optimistic and share that optimism.

Sadly though just today I came from a meeting with a company that appeared to be be dying. I guess what they have not done is re-invent themselves. I think that maybe that is what we should learn to do...learn to re-invent ourselves in everything we do. And in the way we think.

Just the two cents of another Pinoy citizen.

OT: I am amazed with the quality of the members of my young staff. They are a very talented group. Sometimes it pays to listen to the fresh ideas of the youth.

[mbeige]

Namana kasi natin ang pagiging complacent and lenient when it comes to obligation from the Spaniards na mahilig mag siesta, magpahinga, etc. I can't blame Pinoys either, the weather is almost always hot and humid with the exception of occasional downpours that make it cooler, but with that comes slower traffic flow so it doesn't help make travel easier.

For me I believe the problem lies in the fact that the country's economy is product-based, not labor based. Meaning, individuals are paid for the product outcomes they can provide but not for the labor, so regardless of the difficulty of the work, they get paid the same salary. The worker does not get paid what is due him or her from the amount of effort he puts into the work, hence he or she becomes complacent since he will get paid the same amount for less work, so why work harder? There is no incentive to work harder because like I said, it's not based on labor but on the end product. This together with the low minimum wage combines to give workers reason not to give optimal performance.

Problem with many parents, marunong lang sila gumawa ng bata, but they dont teach their kids how to survive. The kids are sent out into the world with no skills, no education, no foundation.

The problem is, if they don't have money, the public school system is not enough to guarantee competent education enough to allow these kids to get into a competitive university and earn their degree. Most of the time they only get vocational schooling, so that severely limits their abilities.

It's like a piece of clay. Children can mold it into any form. But with out the right education and competent background, they will only make simple things and nobody will appreciate them, so they are left in the background.

However, children with education can perform better. But like I said, the public system is not as good as it should be.

Finally, job satisfaction is another. I studied three years of PT (Physical Therapy) in UST but had to stop to migrate to the US so I never finished the course. My classmates who have graduated before me now have landed jobs at various facilities such as Clinica Manila in Megamall, UST hospital, etc. but most of them are severely underpaid. There is more potential for them in other countries such as here in the US which is why a lot of my friends have already moved here. They've settled down in Florida, Texas, California, Maryland, etc and are all working hard and earning so much more than they could ever get there. From what I've heard, it's true that PT is very rewarding but the pay is unfortunately not. My wife, who also is a PT, even says if she gets a job as a PT for experience while we're working on her papers, she will get paid the same amount as those in the call center business, so the effort is way too much for being a PT as opposed to being in a call center. I'm sure she's not the only one facing that kind of dilemma.

During the first year in UST, I remember most of them say that the reason they took up PT is to earn good salaries. Sadly, some of them have deviated to other jobs that pay equally well. My dad who has an office in East Ave Med Center tells me he frequently gets applications for a secretary from individuals who took PT during their college days.

Those individuals who blame migrants are probably well off in their own ways, but others who believe and truly have potential that the country cannot cater to are forced to find work elsewhere due to higher salaries, safer environment, more benefits as well as financial stability. The risk of migrating, however, is that they all start from scratch unless they have friends or relatives to help them out.

[VtEC]

not unless mabawasan or maging patriotic mga politicians sa pinas ala padin akong nakikitang pag asa sa next generation.corruption drags our country down.kailangan leader ng pinas katulad ng gobernador sa pampanga para umunlad ang pinas.padami ng padami ang mga pobre pero kokonti ang job opportunities.janitor na nga lang taas pa ng qualification ba gusto.kaya gustuhin mang makapagtrabaho ng mga nasa squatter pahirapan pa talaga (though malaki part nila kaya ganon life nila).sa pinas not unless na ikaw e from the rich families na madaming kapit or me sarili kang bisnes theres no way you can survive.konting lihis lang ng budget, sakit sa ulo na.

[dbuzz]

how about this bombings all around, carnappings, etc, plus very unreliable govt. parang nakakapanghina eh. parang napakahirap na kahit mag malling nalang eh without feeling insecure. or is it just a case of paranoia kaya?

[mbeige]

It's not in your head, it's real - I constantly read about kidnappings, carjackings, extortion, etc on Tsikot and that does not represent the entire situation well but just what people can report online. That's just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

You're right, punta ka na nga lang sa mall you'll feel paranoid pa. Maglalakad ka lang sandali sa city streets, you'll have to be vigilant. This is the other side of your question I guess, the individual safety of citizens. I guess it's been like that for a while and people have adapted ways to cope with it. However, that's the problem - it's been like that for so long and nothing is done to make it any safer.

[gearhead]

Unfortunately I cannot read what the future holds. What I can try to do though is do what I can to help make it a better one.

Apparently you have doubts. Maybe you should consider migrating? Just a thought.

The caveat though is that no place is perfect. There will always be a trade off.

[dbuzz]

It's not in your head, it's real - I constantly read about kidnappings, carjackings, extortion, etc on Tsikot and that does not represent the entire situation well but just what people can report online. That's just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

You're right, punta ka na nga lang sa mall you'll feel paranoid pa. Maglalakad ka lang sandali sa city streets, you'll have to be vigilant. This is the other side of your question I guess, the individual safety of citizens. I guess it's been like that for a while and people have adapted ways to cope with it. However, that's the problem - it's been like that for so long and nothing is done to make it any safer.

yap bro iyan ang question talaga na tinutumbok ko. if it is that dangerous to just go for a malling as of now eh papano pa ang future kung yung santambak na pamilya eh di maturuan at ma educate ang mga anak which is about 8kids/fam. mostly kasi sa mga middle class about 1 to 4 lang ang mga anak of course these kids are nurtured unlike doon sa mahihirap na aywan ko. - [ang sama banggitin eh.] obviously mas dadami ang maghihirap kaysa maging middle class sa near future. at syempre mostly sa mga may bad upbringing ay mababa ang tingin sa buhay at moral. madaling uminit ang ulo at madaling maka-commit ng crime.

Unfortunately I cannot read what the future holds. What I can try to do though is do what I can to help make it a better one.

Apparently you have doubts. Maybe you should consider migrating? Just a thought.

The caveat though is that no place is perfect. There will always be a trade off.

para bagang "if no one will stand up against, who will?"

your saying that i have doubts... hey man to tell you the truth dude, its not doubts, i'm almost certain sa ganang akin lang. aywan ko lang kung dahil nasanay na ako sa safety and comfort sa ibang bansa. i off mo lang ang overnight lights mo sa around the vicinity ng pamamahay mo dito eh kakatakot na baka may mga masasamang loob na magsamantala.

since na nabanggit mo and i quote

"Unfortunately I cannot read what the future holds. What I can try to do though is do what I can to help make it a better one."

i guess yan ang hinahanap kung responds so far. admittedly your words make me strongerr kahit papano. the big question now is how! how to stand up and make a difference. (huuuwww big move parang sine ah)

[Ms Homer]

[SIZE=2]Dito sa pilipinas, mga bata ang large part ng population, at sana nga lang eh, they will be able to unite the country and steer it to better heights.

There are a lot of young Filipinos working abroad who are just raring to come back when they see the right time has come, and do their share in rebuilding this nation.

As the economic foundations are being laid out, there is hope that the political foundations will also be set into place in the very near future.

Sabi nga madalas ng teacher ko noon, "It’s time to pass your paper, pencils up" – and that’s fast coming for most of us who belong to the generation of baby boomers - born shortly after World War II. Gaya ng presidente natin who belongs to that generation – we must admit it’s hard to believe we are now approaching our senior citizen years.

As they say, it’s time you started packing your bags and getting ready to go to the departure lounge before flying off into the sunset – because the next generation of Filipinos will soon take over as leaders of this nation.[/SIZE]

[uls]

It's scary to think how the younger generation will run the country.

The people who ran the country best were those back in the pre-Marcos era. After that, the country went down the drain.

Mga bata ngayon mas materialistic, mas self-centered, mas pleasure-seeking, mas vain.

Yan ang future leaders natin.

Sa SK palang may kurakot na. Maaga natuto.

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sir mbeige,

yes i know the public education system is unreliable and inadequate. It will just mold kids into incomplete and partially useless lumps of clay.

Kaya i said poor parents send their poor kids out into the world unskilled, uninformed, unprepared and uncompetitive.

The poor kids are competiting with privileged kids who went to private pre-pre-school, pre-school, primary, secondary, tertiary... even masters...

Plus the training they get from successful parents...

The poor kids dont stand a chance.

[van_wilder]

ang future ng mga bata dito sa Pinas ay depende sa magulang.

Depende na yan sa diskarte ng magulang kung paano nila turuan ang mga anak nila para mag survive and mag thrive dito sa ating kakaibang bansa.

Tingnan nyo ung mga younger generation of politicians and businesspeople... naturuan kasi sila ng mga parents nila...

+1

very much well said.

for me, man should do everything he can before destiny reveal itself. you should prepare your kids if you want a bright future. kung prepared ka, no matter where you are, you'll emerge. besides grass is not always greener on the other side.

[mbeige]

sir mbeige,

yes i know the public education system is unreliable and inadequate. It will just mold kids into incomplete and partially useless lumps of clay.

Kaya i said poor parents send their poor kids out into the world unskilled, uninformed, unprepared and uncompetitive.

The poor kids are competiting with privileged kids who went to private pre-pre-school, pre-school, primary, secondary, tertiary... even masters...

Plus the training they get from successful parents...

The poor kids dont stand a chance.

You're right, their future lies in their parents' teaching and upbringing. However when I mentioned what I said earlier I was hoping for something more consistent and objective, because parents all have different ways of bringing up their children and sometimes the children also learn from past mistakes. I was hoping to focus something that can be remedied such as the education system. While parents can also be remedied, it will take far too longer. As with everything else in the homeland, enforcement and implementation is and has always been a problem. So even if the education system can be improved with guidelines and such, who would go out and tell each school to improve? Who would go out and tell each parent to teach better things to their children, and not just verbally but by example too? The government's social welfare department cannot control parents because enforcement is nearly non-existent and, on a smaller scale, if somebody thinks their neighbor is not treating their children correctly, who will they call, and will somebody answer?

I too cannot think how the country will be run in a few years or decades. Another Edsa revolution might happen, but people are tired of that they probably just mellow down and just let things pass over their heads because they know nothing will happen.

That is why the rich will get richer, and the poor, poorer. This is because the parents who are well-off can bestow their knowledge and training to their children, who will become successful, wealthy and well-off in the distant future. How about the children of poor families? Even if the parents teach them well, it will take more time and money for them to get to the same level as the rich children would.

If the government can allot some funds to develop the social welfare department to focus on and improve on the public education system then I'm pretty sure more poor children will want to learn because that is the key to their future, given that their parents teach them well enough.

Gearhead has a very good point too, if you go somewhere else there will definitely be trade offs. However, being a husband I'm definitely after the future of my future children. I've talked to my wife about this and it looks like the education system in the homeland, if one can afford it, provides a much better foundation than the ones here in the US. Here in the US, religion in school is almost always generally in the background but there, religion is part of the formative years of children.

Grass can be greener on the other side of the pond, but there will be more ants. Just an analogy I've thought of as I read Van_wilder's response

[morrissey_05]

Poor kids dont stand a chance? Ive heard of a lot of poor kids emerge successful. Marami dyan, di lang natin nakikita. Depende sa tao yan, sa diskarte. Others are contented with being a tambay or depending on an OFW relative. that's the wrong attitude.

bombings? kidnappings and crime? any country in the world has all of these. even the US, the most powerful and most prosperous economy in the world, the land of the free, the land of the brave, was also a victim of a terrorist attack. Crime is prevalent here, its abundant there too.

my opinion? id rather stay and raise my child in this country. no matter how ugly the government is, its up to the parents to steer the child to the right values. as long as i have my family with me here, kahit anong hirap kaya ko.

bring my family to the US? di na. the culture there is very different and might not be conducive to raising my child properly. my bro-in-law wants to bring his family home na from the US so his kids are raised properly.

whats the future of our kids here in Pinas? their future is what we, their parents, make it.