CBCP planning nationwide protest vs constituent assembly

[chua_riwap]

Sa CHA-CHA lang puro mukha na ni JDV ang naka-plaster sa TV. Never mind na mukhang naka-Elmer's glue lang ang mga kilay niya at mukha siyang bagong gising.

He-he! Oo nga...pareho sila (ni Tenga) ng kilay ni Winnie The Pooh.......

[t2erns]

tenga and his cohorts got what they deserved from renato constantino jr at their presscon. those people (house majority) considered intellects lost their morality and senses just to stay in power d ba nila alam na nasusuka na ang taong bayan sa kanila? now gma told her allies to stop the con-ass, what then... ito na ba ang end ng kanilang political carrer..dapat na siguro mag resign si gma, jdv at ang kanilang pangkat ng bandido to save face

[Syuryuken]

Si Villafuerte ba ang congressman ng Albay?

[shadow]

naku gutom na mga tao dun? bakit kasi pinapatigil pa nung priest mga donations? pano kapag may namantay na tao dun sa gutom at walang gamot?

marami naman ang dodonate eh, hinde lang yun si lagman, kung gusto tumulong talaga na walang personal motive, huwag na maglagay ng pangalan na galing sa kanila

[shadow]

Follow up question po.hehehe prang showbiz.

Sa Parliamentary government po ba iba pa ung Prime Minister sa President or isa lang yun? kasi as mentioned Prime Minister will be the head of the State.. if magkaiba ang Prime Minister sa President ano pinagkaiba ng Function nila.

Pasensya na po mendyo naguguluhan lang..Pro I know kasi maraming Filipino hindi rin alam itong details na ito na maaring mangyari.

TIA & God Bless!

to answer your question in simplest way, kung ano meron power ngayon ang president malilipat lahat yun sa PM, ang president magiging display na lang, no power whatsoever ceremonial position na lang...

[Zeus]

Si Villafuerte ba ang congressman ng Albay?

Bicol area sya e, d ko lang sure kung saan.

[Devastator]

I wish these politicos would just just the hell up with their ConAss BS and instead focus on other more important issues hounding the country, oh and why can't they use their time pooling their resources in helping the victims of the typhoons. I don't know ha, but if they succeed in changing the type of gov't and yet it will be the same bozos sitting in power, then it will be useless and a complete waste of time and energy. BTW, the plan has been put on hold muna. If ever they push through with it again, baka ma-supalpal pa sila ng Supreme Court.

[claRkEnt]

Pagcor beats bishops to Luneta rally site


By Christian V. Esguerra
Inquirer
Last updated 04:51pm (Mla time) 12/10/2006


THE Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) is not abandoning its massive prayer rally despite Malacañang's order that administration lawmakers forego the planned constituent assembly to amend the 1987 Constitution.

But the government's main gambling agency appears to have beaten the bishops to the venue -- the sprawling Quirino Grandstand in Manila.

The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor) had reserved and paid for the use of the venue before the bishops announced the prayer rally on December 15, according to Monsignor Pedro Quitorio, CBCP spokesperson.

"We learned that Pagcor was using the grandstand for an activity," he told the Inquirer on Sunday.

One bishop, who was planning to mobilize his diocese for the rally, expressed suspicion that Malacañang, through its gambling agency, had intentionally reserved the venue to foil the CBCP activity.

galing-galing naman....

[Zeus]

Si Villafuerte ba ang congressman ng Albay?

Congressman siya ng Camarines Sur

[Zeus]

galing-galing naman....

E kung ganon sa Makati na lang sila, teretoryo ni mayor Binay yun e o sa Edsa Shrine, kontrolado ng simbahang Catholiko itong shrine d ba? at tuluyang EDSA 4 na

[RedHorse]

self serving ang move na ito ng RC... kasi no elections, no endorsement (from all sides) means no money... pag pera na involve, walang ng usapan.. ano? si chavit lang me utak?

[Zeus]

Bishop calls on AFP to join protest vs charter change


By Christian V. Esguerra, Jhunnex Napallacan, Philip Tubeza
Inquirer
Last updated 00:45am (Mla time) 12/12/2006


SAYING the Constitution was being “ravaged by the interest of private individuals,” a Catholic bishop called on the military, on Monday, to support the Church-led prayer rally against efforts by administration lawmakers to overhaul the Constitution.
“Maybe it’s time for the soldiers who were called and sworn to defend the people and the Constitution to listen and join the people,” Novaliches Bishop Antonio Tobias said in a homily at St. Peter’s Parish Church on Commonwealth Avenue in Quezon City.
The Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) has moved the holding of the prayer rally at the Quirino Grandstand in Manila against the constituent assembly being pushed by the House of Representatives from December 15 to December 17.
Monsignor Pedro Quitorio, CBCP spokesperson, said the rally was reset because the grandstand would be used by the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. on December 15.
Quitorio said simultaneous prayer rallies would proceed on December 15 as originally scheduled in the 85 other dioceses outside of the Archdiocese of Manila, the country’s premier see.
Instead of holding rallies, the Catholic Church in Cebu City will hold indoor discussions on Charter change.
The Presbyteral Council of Cebu archdiocese headed by Cebu Archbishop Ricardo Cardinal Vidal came up with this decision during a meeting held yesterday.
The council said it was supporting the CBCP’s call for widespread discussions and people’s participation before Charter change could be undertaken.
In a resolution signed by Vidal, the council said the discussion should focus on “no to Con-ass, no to postponement of elections, no to martial law or yes to Cha-cha (Charter change) through Con-con (constitutional convention).”
“That means, we will not gather in the streets but, instead, inside the churches, talk about the issue during the Masses. Each priest will say something. And then outside the Masses, there will be meetings within the church organizations and (they will) discuss the issue,” Monsignor Achilles Dakay said.
A group of lawyers could not wait for the rallies on December 17 and took action on Monday against constituent assembly.
Eluding security personnel, the lawyers held a picket inside the Batasan complex in Quezon City where the House is located and called on House leaders to end their “political adventurism” by withdrawing the resolution seeking Congress to convene into constituent assembly starting Tuesday.
More than 30 members of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines, the Ateneo-based Alternative Law Groups (ALG) and the Counsels for the Defense of Liberties staged the picket outside the House plenary hall.
“The move to change the Constitution through their so-called constituent assembly is nothing more than a tyranny of the House majority,” said ALG convenor Marlon Manuel.
Other protest actions were staged elsewhere on Monday.
Some 200 members of the Bagong Alyansang Makabayan-Southern Tagalog massed in Calamba City in Laguna to join the vigil of other protesters in front of the Batasang Pambansa.
Others gathered in Sta. Cruz in Laguna, Lipa and Batangas cities in Batangas, and Dasmariñas in Cavite for demonstrations and a noise barrage. Some of their placards had images of pigs and bore the names of some pro-Charter change lawmakers.
In his homily, Tobias urged the people to join actions like those spearheaded by the CBCP “because only through this that we will be able to do something right for our country and perhaps, we would cast fear among our leaders.”
“What we are doing is part of our being Christians. People are counting on us,” he said.
At a press conference after the Mass, Tobias said he was expecting the military to express support for the mass actions against efforts to revise the 1987 Constitution.
“Today, the Constitution is being ravaged (by) the interest of private individuals,” he told reporters. “I ask them [soldiers] to help the people.”
Told that he might face a lawsuit from the Arroyo administration, a primary target of his criticisms since last year, Tobias replied: “It’s OK. It’s for the country.”
Tobias earlier courted a government investigation following his admission that he had provided sanctuary to a fugitive, anti-Arroyo soldier in his home in Quezon City.
Quitorio said the CBCP-led prayer rally would proceed despite recent developments that appeared to show that the administration was backtracking on its plan to convene the House of Representatives into a constituent assembly without the participation of the Senate.
Amid the threat of mass actions from the Church and business groups, Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr. on Saturday announced that the majority bloc in the House was putting the constituent assembly on hold and was giving the Senate 72 hours from Monday to pass a resolution calling for a constitutional convention.
The senators had ignored De Venecia’s ultimatum. As of press time, De Venecia and his allies had shelved the constituent assembly following the caucus of the House majority on Monday.
Quitorio said the CBCP would not fall for De Venecia’s gambit, which urged the Catholic Church to exert pressure on senators.
“Our position is clear: We don’t need Cha-cha,” he told the Inquirer. “But if it can’t be avoided, it should be done through a constitutional convention. De Venecia is now dangling Con-con, but our feeling is that now is not the time.”
“We have far more pressing problems and our people, especially those in Bicol, are suffering. Cha-cha is not the answer,” he added.
Quitorio said the task of amending the Constitution should fall on a set of leaders enjoying public trust. He said the Arroyo administration seemed deaf to surveys showing its poor trust rating.
To discourage government employees from joining protest rallies, the Department of Justice yesterday issued a memorandum warning them that they can be administratively charged for taking to the streets.
Justice Secretary Raul Gonzalez reminded government personnel of a recent Supreme Court decision saying that government personnel cannot hold “prohibited concerted mass action.”
The high court said the right to strike was not absolute.
“All government employees of all government department and agencies are prohibited from joining mass actions, rallies, protests, strikes and other activities against the government and duly constituted authority,” Gonzalez said.

[nerbyoso]

dapat itigil ng simbahan ang kahibangan nila...ang intindihin nila yung kaluluwa ng kanilang mga kawan...yung kabaklaan sa hanay nila...pagpapalaganap ng salita ng dios dun sa mga di pa nakakarinig..dun sa lugar ng ng mga iskwater, holdapers at snatchers..paglingap sa mahihirap..pagpapaalala sa mga tulisang negosyante...mag sermon sila ng gusto nila but they should refrain from meddling with politics... and stop these organized moves na para sila silang political party..funyet* sila parang gusto rin nilang magka pork barrel ah.

kasaysayan na yan ng mundo na pag nagumpisa ng makiaalam ang simbahan sa gobyerno malamang sa kanal ang bagsak ng bayan...muslims, christians, budhist etc. ano mang relihiyon should keep out.

[Galactus]

expected naman tutol ang senate, sila tatanggalin eh hahaha

kitang-kita mo talaga loyalty ng mga 'to. kahit pro-admin, basta tatanggalin sila galit!

This is beside the point. The thing is, the House is arm-twisting the Senate to join them, even giving an ultimatum. Or else, they'll do it without them. Eh co-equal body sila. Senators are elected at large, samantalang congressmen, per district. Garapalan talaga. Sinusunog na kaluluwa nila sa impyerno!

[Hanren]

who needs the senate anyway? dagdag pork barrel (at gastos lang yan). ginagamit na springboard para maging presidential candidate. Bloated na nga bureaucracy natin dahil nga kung me batas na naipasa sa house, dadaan pa yan ng senate..eh kung minsan, partisan ang botohan..I don't see any purpose of the senate now..especially with the likes of what we have now (with the exception of a few nationalists 'kuno')..i don't believe that everything they do is for the country...cmon. everyone has the right to peaceful assembly. Sana tama lang ang focus ng issues na dapat ilaban.

[Altis6453]

who needs the senate anyway? dagdag pork barrel (at gastos lang yan). ginagamit na springboard para maging presidential candidate. Bloated na nga bureaucracy natin dahil nga kung me batas na naipasa sa house, dadaan pa yan ng senate..eh kung minsan, partisan ang botohan..I don't see any purpose of the senate now..especially with the likes of what we have now (with the exception of a few nationalists 'kuno')..i don't believe that everything they do is for the country...cmon. everyone has the right to peaceful assembly. Sana tama lang ang focus ng issues na dapat ilaban.

While I agree that the Senate has some serious self-examination to do as far as what they've done so far to help the country's progress, I don't subscribe the the idea that it should be abolished. If anything, the members of the House of Representatives, while they've passed bills into laws, have shown more propensity to go where the money is. I bet if you go by the numbers, they have more pork than the Senate. Yes, everybody has the right to peaceful assembly...I just hope the PNP and AFP remember that before they try to use BP 880 to disperse another rally for being anti chacha.

[baludoy]

dapat itigil ng simbahan ang kahibangan nila...ang intindihin nila yung kaluluwa ng kanilang mga kawan...yung kabaklaan sa hanay nila...pagpapalaganap ng salita ng dios dun sa mga di pa nakakarinig..dun sa lugar ng ng mga iskwater, holdapers at snatchers..paglingap sa mahihirap..pagpapaalala sa mga tulisang negosyante...mag sermon sila ng gusto nila but they should refrain from meddling with politics... and stop these organized moves na para sila silang political party..funyet* sila parang gusto rin nilang magka pork barrel ah.

kasaysayan na yan ng mundo na pag nagumpisa ng makiaalam ang simbahan sa gobyerno malamang sa kanal ang bagsak ng bayan...muslims, christians, budhist etc. ano mang relihiyon should keep out.

amen to this:exclaim:

[oldblue]

This is beside the point. The thing is, the House is arm-twisting the Senate to join them, even giving an ultimatum. Or else, they'll do it without them. Eh co-equal body sila. Senators are elected at large, samantalang congressmen, per district. Garapalan talaga. Sinusunog na kaluluwa nila sa impyerno!

tell me sir, which body is easier to reach, which official can be written a letter by an ordinary citizen, hindi ba congressman mo, kung sa'n distrito ka? write a letter to a senator, and his staff will tell you pang-national lang kami or better yet, pang-corporate laws lang kami.

voting for senators is a complete waste of time and election funds. and dont forget, it was the senators who insisted to tax the text service of cellphone companies. nakita kasi nila ang laki ng kikitain. back in '98, when globe and smart were at their infant stage, free ang text messaging noon (50 to 100 text message), it was only voice calls that was charged and taxed.

multiply pa natin: let's talk about: how utilities companies bend an arm and leg just to get a legislation from the senate. bilangan ng boto yan from the 24, each can cost millions to hundreds of millions. na pinapasa ng mga utilities sa'tin. try to review kung ano ang presyo ng kuryente noon compared ngaun.

laki ng matitipid ng parliamentary system. we citizens need not vote nationally. we just vote for our friendly neighborhood congressman (member of parliament), and they will vote for our PM - our nation's leader. d'ba laki ng matitipid?

the movers of cha cha maybe very controversial in the person of FVR and JDV. but these people are the same tacticians who uplifted our country from blackout country in 92 to a tiger cub status in '98. (in JUST 6 YEARS!) back then FVR's motto was Philippines 2000. everybody was quite excited what's in store for us Filipinos for the new millenium. too bad Sin and Cory rejected it bec. they neither had the guts nor the willpower to move this country forward and even paved the way for the election of Erap.

nakakapagtaka talaga how some Filipinos attack el tabako as damatans at nag-uulyanin. talagang walang utang na loob. HE SAVED US TWICE ALREADY! and history cannot deny that.

too bad matanda na siya, pag walang nangyari sa charter change before his natural death. then moro-moro na nga lang dito sa P'nas.

hindi lang lack of funds sa gobyerno poproblemahin natin due to lack of investments by turned-off investors from cha-cha, OVERPOPULATION na kakagagawan ng simbahan at mga pulitiko/militante, na mahilig sa katangang " there is strength in numbers" .

May God Help us All, for a small group of island carrying 200M unproductive/poor inhabitant in the next 10 years, baka bigat pa natin magpalubog sa P'nas below sea level

[Tikoyman]

Dapat talagang buwagin na yang Senado...ayokong maging 3 member ng Estrada ang magiging Senador natin. It is a waste of taxpayer's money for keeping this Senate. MAybe next election ay puro taga showbiz na ang mga Senador na nakaupo dyan.
Itong CBCP nman ay masyado na yatang mapapel pagdating sa politika. Mga bakla/*** offenders at mga sugarol na pari ang kanilang bantayan. Wla silang karapatang magdikta sa politika dahil hindi sila nagbabayad ng Buwis! Kung Gusto nilang umunlad ang Pilipinas, dapat mga Taxpayers lang ang dapat bumoto!

[oldblue]

i can still remember the time na may warning na in 2 years magkakaroon ng blackouts around Luzon, at magkakaron ng power rationing. Cory was still in power. 2 years alam na niya, wala pa din siyang ginawa. basta may coup 'd etat, may political unrest, may gulo sa countryside, and even etong impending power problem, puros si Ramos ang tinatakbuhan ni Cory.
natutukso na nga silang dalawa noon eh!

ngaun ko lang na-realize na ganyan ka-desperado mga tao lumaban kay Marcos noon, kung nasa right age lang siguro yun panganay ni Ninoy, baka yun ang ginagawa presidente. wala ng esep esep basta matanggal lang si macoy, kahit widow housewife puwede na!

noon maliit pa ako, naalala ko pa yun L Sign with yellow stickers and the magic '24 of Cory Aquino. most of which, mga lumaban daw kay Marcos pero lahat puro fresh America. lahat sila "hero", lahat sila kumontra kay Marcos, lahat sila MORE THAN 5 YEARS na nagtago sa America! hahaha. Binay, Angara, Guingona, Pimentel, Alvarez to name a few. and yun pinakamahirap na senador Saguisag, na walang sinabi kungdi "ako'y mahirap lamang!" whether on TV or Radio. yun abogado ni erap ngayun.

look at them now, the same flip-flopping politicians, kampi kay Cory, kampi kay ramos, kampi kay Erap, laban kay erap, kampi kay GMA, ngaun kakosa ulit ni Erap at ni Cory.