CBCP planning nationwide protest vs constituent assembly

**Zeus** · December 7th, 2006 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by oldblue

expected naman tutol ang senate, sila tatanggalin eh hahaha

kitang-kita mo talaga loyalty ng mga 'to. kahit pro-admin, basta tatanggalin sila galit!

may puntos ka rin dito

**boybi** · December 7th, 2006 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by swimstroke

Dadaan pa naman sa Senate iyan diba? Marami bang kakampi si Gloria dun?

hehe, wala ng kwenta ang senate dito. inammend na kasi ng congress ang rules. ginawang 'voting as a whole' na ang 2 houses, instead of 'voting separately'.

**Flagg** · December 8th, 2006 12:49 AM

Do not be fooled by muddled interpretations of the term: "The separation of Church and State."

The true meaning is also the simplest and most literal: that neither entity can use the other to advance its agenda.

Thus, the concept of 'separation' does not prohibit the clergy from exercising what they view as their right and duty as citizens.

If there is an opinion that acting as one religious group is wrong... Kindly consider that it is common sense that a group of people acting as one body through religion is no different from a group of people acting as one body through ideology.

**jonski** · December 8th, 2006 01:46 AM

Hindi ako pro gloria pero pro Cha Cha ako

**mikmik316** · December 8th, 2006 02:10 AM

hmmmm.... CBCP ang nagsabi dati na walang impeachment di ba????

Dahil dun sa ginawa nilang yun... mas madaming oras ang Kongreso na magpasa ng bills at ngayon nagkaroon sila ng time para asikasuhin ang Con Ass....

If natuloy ang impeachment... kahit talo eto for this year... at least walang time para gawin yang Con Ass na yan...

**CVT** · December 8th, 2006 09:05 AM

"It starts"

Hey,- our brothers and sisters in the south are dying!!!

:starwars:

**zero** · December 8th, 2006 09:23 AM

last night, may mga tao na dito sa edsa shrine pero it went pfffft.
wala sigurong budget para sa malaking rally?

**oneng** · December 8th, 2006 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by boybi

hehe, wala ng kwenta ang senate dito. inammend na kasi ng congress ang rules. ginawang 'voting as a whole' na ang 2 houses, instead of 'voting separately'.

[SIZE=2]from what i seen in the past few years any moved to removed the present senate, in my opinion is worth considering.ibigay na lang sana nila sa mga kababayan natin sa bicol at sa mga sundalo nating walang mga maayos na kagamitan ang kanilang pork barrel.lahat naman ng ginagawa nila ay puro in aid of there ambition eh.

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**mazdamazda** · December 8th, 2006 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

then it's should be the same with these lawmakers, they shouyld first help those affected by the typhoon in bicol rather than waste their time in this vested interest action of theirs,

look at cong villafuerte, he's the cong. of bicol or albay, his constituent are all dying and yet he's leading the proponents in congress regarding this matter...

actually... that sort of "help" is the reason why we cannot kill the pork barrel.

helping those typhoon victims should be done by the executive branch of the government (LGUs & nat'l gov't).

Originally Posted by flagg

Do not be fooled by muddled interpretations of the term: "The separation of Church and State."

The true meaning is also the simplest and most literal: that neither entity can use the other to advance its agenda.

Thus, the concept of 'separation' does not prohibit the clergy from exercising what they view as their right and duty as citizens.

If there is an opinion that acting as one religious group is wrong... Kindly consider that it is common sense that a group of people acting as one body through religion is no different from a group of people acting as one body through ideology.

A good point... seems only a few have a good understanding of how the separation of the state & church works. In the simplest terms, it is the freedom of religion which should prevail. The "laws" of one religion should not be imposed upon all citizens (e.g. banning all clergy regardless of religion from marrying just because the Catholic church has that policy).

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Kaya ganyan na ang move ng House ay dahil nga nabaril yung unang attempt nila to convene a CA through the People's Initiative. Although it is unconstitutional, it is a bit palatable for more citizens as the CA will be separate from the House.

Though as I understand in our current constitution, only the House can convene as a CA. So that is the legal way to do it.