CBCP planning nationwide protest vs constituent assembly

[shadow]

then it's should be the same with these lawmakers, they shouyld first help those affected by the typhoon in bicol rather than waste their time in this vested interest action of theirs,

look at cong villafuerte, he's the cong. of bicol or albay, his constituent are all dying and yet he's leading the proponents in congress regarding this matter...

[oldblue]

hindi kasi puwede yun, "ops! tigil muna tayo sa pagpapaplano sa takbo ng gobyerno at nasalanta ang mga taga-Albay". hindi din puwede yun "teka muna kung anu-ano pinagiisip ng mga tongressman, andami pa naghihirap ngaun". o kaya naman "mali ang timing eh, resolbahan muna yun accusation kay Madam na nandaya"

that's not how a govt. works.

kailangan continuous ang serbisyo to all sectors of society.

[tsupermario]

hindi kasi puwede yun, "ops! tigil muna tayo sa pagpapaplano sa takbo ng gobyerno at nasalanta ang mga taga-Albay". hindi din puwede yun "teka muna kung anu-ano pinagiisip ng mga tongressman, andami pa naghihirap ngaun". o kaya naman "mali ang timing eh, resolbahan muna yun accusation kay Madam na nandaya"

that's not how a govt. works.

kailangan continuous ang serbisyo to all sectors of society.

that's where his priorities come in. i wonder what those are..

[Zeus]

Pati grupo ni Mike Velarde magpreprayer rally na rin, ano kaya ang position ni former pres. Ramos ngayon?

[swimstroke]

Ang alam ko may separation of church and state... Dapat gumanti yung kabila, lagyan ng tax ang simbahan.

Dadaan pa naman sa Senate iyan diba? Marami bang kakampi si Gloria dun?

[bat_zignal]

Great! Bagsak na naman ekonomiya ng 'Pinas!

[C190]

Great! Bagsak na naman ekonomiya ng 'Pinas!

Sobra na pulitika sa atin

[Zeus]

Ang alam ko may separation of church and state... Dapat gumanti yung kabila, lagyan ng tax ang simbahan.

Dadaan pa naman sa Senate iyan diba? Marami bang kakampi si Gloria dun?

Kung Catholic ka, sila daw ang sheperds e, nakita nila, n pati ako napansin ko sila sila(mga house majority) na lang ang nagluluto e at ang pagkaintindi ko kasama lang sa head count kung tutol o pabor sa cha-cha ang mga senador, hindi separate voting chamber Halos lahat ng senador (mga 22 yata) tutol sa cha-cha na gusto ng house majority

[oldblue]

expected naman tutol ang senate, sila tatanggalin eh hahaha

kitang-kita mo talaga loyalty ng mga 'to. kahit pro-admin, basta tatanggalin sila galit!

[boybi]

Dadaan pa naman sa Senate iyan diba? Marami bang kakampi si Gloria dun?

hehe, wala ng kwenta ang senate dito. inammend na kasi ng congress ang rules. ginawang 'voting as a whole' na ang 2 houses, instead of 'voting separately'.

[Flagg]

Do not be fooled by muddled interpretations of the term: "The separation of Church and State."

The true meaning is also the simplest and most literal: that neither entity can use the other to advance its agenda.

Thus, the concept of 'separation' does not prohibit the clergy from exercising what they view as their right and duty as citizens.

If there is an opinion that acting as one religious group is wrong... Kindly consider that it is common sense that a group of people acting as one body through religion is no different from a group of people acting as one body through ideology.

[oneng]

hehe, wala ng kwenta ang senate dito. inammend na kasi ng congress ang rules. ginawang 'voting as a whole' na ang 2 houses, instead of 'voting separately'.

[SIZE=2]from what i seen in the past few years any moved to removed the present senate, in my opinion is worth considering.ibigay na lang sana nila sa mga kababayan natin sa bicol at sa mga sundalo nating walang mga maayos na kagamitan ang kanilang pork barrel.lahat naman ng ginagawa nila ay puro in aid of there ambition eh.
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[mazdamazda]

then it's should be the same with these lawmakers, they shouyld first help those affected by the typhoon in bicol rather than waste their time in this vested interest action of theirs,

look at cong villafuerte, he's the cong. of bicol or albay, his constituent are all dying and yet he's leading the proponents in congress regarding this matter...

actually... that sort of "help" is the reason why we cannot kill the pork barrel.

helping those typhoon victims should be done by the executive branch of the government (LGUs & nat'l gov't).

Do not be fooled by muddled interpretations of the term: "The separation of Church and State."

The true meaning is also the simplest and most literal: that neither entity can use the other to advance its agenda.

Thus, the concept of 'separation' does not prohibit the clergy from exercising what they view as their right and duty as citizens.

If there is an opinion that acting as one religious group is wrong... Kindly consider that it is common sense that a group of people acting as one body through religion is no different from a group of people acting as one body through ideology.

A good point... seems only a few have a good understanding of how the separation of the state & church works. In the simplest terms, it is the freedom of religion which should prevail. The "laws" of one religion should not be imposed upon all citizens (e.g. banning all clergy regardless of religion from marrying just because the Catholic church has that policy).

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Kaya ganyan na ang move ng House ay dahil nga nabaril yung unang attempt nila to convene a CA through the People's Initiative. Although it is unconstitutional, it is a bit palatable for more citizens as the CA will be separate from the House.

Though as I understand in our current constitution, only the House can convene as a CA. So that is the legal way to do it.