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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    kaya pa ba nang mga maralitang manggagawa na pag aralin ang kanilang mga anak?

    Masyado na mataas ang tuition fee ngayon, parangang hirap na isipin kung kaya pa makapag aral ang mga anak nang mga minimum - above minimum worker natin.

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    kung bahagyang mataas lang sa minimum at mamimili ka ng eskwelahan imposible. Mahirap lalo na kung madami kang anak. Pwersado kang mamili sa mga anak mo kung sino muna pagaaralin. Yung public school system natin hindi well developed. That is the main problem. Other than pouring funds to our public schools, the only onther remedy that i could see is mag one child muna sila hanggat di pa sila nakakaipon. Kung di makaipon eh di atleast isang anak lang ang proproblemahin nila, kaya na siguron pagsikapan yan

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    mataas na talaga.hindi na biro magpaaral.

    pero makakagawa at makakagawa parin ng paraan kung gusto.

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    yah makakagawa nang paraan at kayang pag aralin ang mga anak kung gugustuhin pero hindi na nya makakaya sa mataas at may kalidad na paaralan.

    magtitiis sya pag aralain sa public school na siksikan at sobra init.

    Pero paano makakaya nang isang pangkaraniwang manggagawa na makapag aral sa isang mamahalin at dekalidad na eskwela nang kanilang anak para pagnakatapos ay hindi mamomoblema na makahanap nang trabaho.

    Ako gusto pag aralin ang anak ko sa Ateneo or UP pero mukhang hindi kakayanin nang kinikita ko.
    Last edited by CLAVEL3699; June 14th, 2006 at 01:32 AM.

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    ang problema pa pati mga pre-need plans nalulugi na raw... tapos may mga eskwelahan pa na mahal na nga tuition fee e hindi pa competitive both the faculty and the facility... hay, kumita lang ng pera mga schools na to, kahit iskul bukol sila at ang mga estudyante e ok lang sa kanila. bottomline: madam GMA na binawasan budget ng DepEd para idagdag sa campaign funds nya..



    opppss... magagalit si pareng mike defensor nyan...

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    Ang dami nang pre need na eductional plan na nalulugi, kasama ako sa CAP since fully paid na ko sa plan at ang maturity nito ay 9yrs pa hindi pa namin makuha ang binayad namin dito, pwede namin issurender ang policy pero 50% lang ang makukuha, BAD TRIP bayad na kami tapos 50% lang sa binayad namin ang pwedeing kunin, laking kagulangan talaga ng mga preneed company na ito, kailan kaya merong mapaparusahan sa kanila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raine
    Ang dami nang pre need na eductional plan na nalulugi, kasama ako sa CAP since fully paid na ko sa plan at ang maturity nito ay 9yrs pa hindi pa namin makuha ang binayad namin dito, pwede namin issurender ang policy pero 50% lang ang makukuha, BAD TRIP bayad na kami tapos 50% lang sa binayad namin ang pwedeing kunin, laking kagulangan talaga ng mga preneed company na ito, kailan kaya merong mapaparusahan sa kanila?

    hay, welkam to the pilipens... kakalungkot talaga...

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    ang observation ko sa mga parents dito (ewan ko sa PI) is they put their kids in private schools from pre-school to highschool, pero when it's time to go to college, the kids end up in community colleges. this never made sense to me. i would have saved up the money for a quality college education instead. can someone please enlighten me with the reasons why they do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699
    yah makakagawa nang paraan at kayang pag aralin ang mga anak kung gugustuhin pero hindi na nya makakaya sa mataas at may kalidad na paaralan.

    magtitiis sya pag aralain sa public school na siksikan at sobra init.

    Pero paano makakaya nang isang pangkaraniwang manggagawa na makapag aral sa isang mamahalin at dekalidad na eskwela nang kanilang anak para pagnakatapos ay hindi mamomoblema na makahanap nang trabaho.

    Ako gusto pag aralin ang anak ko sa Ateneo or UP pero mukhang hindi kakayanin nang kinikita ko.


    if worse comes to worst in the future, ikaw na lang mag-supervise sa pagturo sa anak mo or mag-hire ka ng specialized tutor for every field.

    ako I dont find it efficient for a student to spend 6-8 years in elementary and 4 years in HS. usually I interview a lot of applicants, at kapag HS grad lang ... ang tanong ko lang marunong ka ba bumasa, sumulat, mag-simple math at makipag-kapwa tao (ethics). walang na calculus, trigo o geometry o science ka-ekekan.

    grades 3 to 6 puros memorizing lang yan eh. that is not learning. memorizing of facts, dates, history, terms etc ... sayang!

    main purpose of schooling is to determine kung ano ang inclination ng bata. kung artistic ba sya, technical and objective ba sya or mayaman mayaman sa social skills. the sooner you find out, i-divert mo na kagad anak mo to specialize in that field. of course specialization is not permanent for life, darating ang panahon na gusto naman nya iba gawin. but at least you made him achieve something. and with achievement comes confidence. kaya na nya mag-shift nun coz nakaramdam na siya kahit papano ng success.

    yan ang pinagtataka ko kumbakit hindi ganyan ang gawin focus ng DepED dito. well kunsabagay mas advantageous nga yan trabaho nila ganyan para sa pansarili nila. mahirap nga naman i-treat each student on a case to case basis. kakatamad kasi kaya kung ano na yun curriculum noon 1960's tuloy pa din kahit 21st century na. tsk tsk tsk . ..
    Last edited by oldblue; June 14th, 2006 at 03:52 AM.

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    the problem with pre-need plans is that they werent able to foresee the 1997 asian financial crisis, 2001's 9/11, the depreciation of peso, impeachment, etc... ayun investments nila nalugi... your money (premium) is invested in stocks, bonds, etc... the prob is nalugi... kaya nalugi rin sila... sa una hindi nila pina-alam (nobody would admit his mistake until hopeless na talaga) so they used the money coming from new accounts to fund the old accounts... pero pagdating sa dulo hindi na nakayanan...

    give or take 10-20 years... US pension and social security ang susunod... baka sumunod ang health care ng France after US and another five years... Austria...


    ako home-schooled ko rin siguro anak ko... or ateneo/southridge/ism kung lalaki... kung girl... anywhere but ISM... hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by FXT
    ang observation ko sa mga parents dito (ewan ko sa PI) is they put their kids in private schools from pre-school to highschool, pero when it's time to go to college, the kids end up in community colleges. this never made sense to me. i would have saved up the money for a quality college education instead. can someone please enlighten me with the reasons why they do this?
    i see their point... they want a good foundation for their kids... bad habits die hard... prevent "bad habits" (not literal bad habits) para kahit sa huli kahit isabak sa hindi private, oks lang kasi disciplined na...

    although i see their point, for me it still doesnt make sense... hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by FXT
    ang observation ko sa mga parents dito (ewan ko sa PI) is they put their kids in private schools from pre-school to highschool, pero when it's time to go to college, the kids end up in community colleges. this never made sense to me. i would have saved up the money for a quality college education instead. can someone please enlighten me with the reasons why they do this?
    FXT, you Know how it is here. Once they turn 18, you're on your own. some of them end up in community colleges because they have to pay their own tuition. self-supporting na sila. that's why you see them working and going to school at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbx986
    FXT, you Know how it is here. Once they turn 18, you're on your own. some of them end up in community colleges because they have to pay their own tuition. self-supporting na sila. that's why you see them working and going to school at the same time.

    yep,.thats how i see it also here in canada. actually, yung mga bata nga rin ang may gusto..kasi sila pag nakatikim ng pera dito gusto na humiwalay..ayan tuloy. yung perang kinikita nila is enough lang to support them sa college

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    maganda sana kung ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas ang may programa kagaya ng ibang bansa na pwede mong utangin ang pang bayad sa tuition fees at bayaran mo na lang pagkatapos mong mag aral.

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    ang mandate ng consti natin ay priority ang edukasyon sa budget and not military or anything else (pork barrel)....kaso hindi sinusunod ang consti...tapos gusto nila palitan kasi hindi raw "up to date"....pero kung susundin lang ito, we have all the laws na to run our country properly....kupal lang talaga ang namamalakad.

    anyway, I would recommend puting your kids in a public school and supporting their learning at home....there is this na "SPED" or special education group that also caters to the fast learners and gifted kids....pero the SUPPORT AT HOME is still very important.

    most parents would rant about the school but they wouldn't rant about themselves not helping their kids at their school works. hindi lang naman sa classroom confined ang edukasyon di ba.

    kung nagtitipid ka, you can always go "home-schooling" and almost cut the cost to 1/4th or half na lang. the modules are deped accredited and the kids tend to work more honestly. social development may be hampered ng kaunti pero it could be remedied naman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    grades 3 to 6 puros memorizing lang yan eh. that is not learning. memorizing of facts, dates, history, terms etc ... sayang!
    hindi ba learning yung malaman mo ang history? how the world came to be? sa math, hindi naman puro memorization, during these years, you learn how to solve more complex mathematical problems. very important ang mga years na yan to setup the basic foundations of every field in your child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder
    i see their point... they want a good foundation for their kids... bad habits die hard... prevent "bad habits" (not literal bad habits) para kahit sa huli kahit isabak sa hindi private, oks lang kasi disciplined na...

    although i see their point, for me it still doesnt make sense... hehehehe
    you have a point there. that's exactly what our pastor did with his kids, pero not all the way to high school. pre-school and elementary school lang nag-private school yung mga anak nya, to set good foundations and good studying habits, as you said. sa middle school and high school, they all went to public schools, albeit very good ones. ang reasoning nya, you can't shelter your kids from the world. as long as you've set the foundation and the parents continue their job at home, they'll be okay. and in doing so, they were able to save enough money to send their kids to quality colleges. they're not rich either, just your average, hard-working, middle-class family.

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    well nasa bata din kasi yan....i have 2 cousins, isa sa ateneo at yung isa sa UPLB...and guess what...galing sila pareho sa isang public school sa probinsya...and they are both scholar nung college, yung nasa ateneo malapit na maging doctor......yung tita ko na nanay nila ay isang ordinaryong empleyado lang...

    public or private..parang pareho lang....nasa bata yan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee
    maganda sana kung ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas ang may programa kagaya ng ibang bansa na pwede mong utangin ang pang bayad sa tuition fees at bayaran mo na lang pagkatapos mong mag aral.
    merong study now pay later scheme ang CHED. ang problema ay hindi nagbabayad ang maraming estudyante kapag nakapagtapos na sila.

    meron rin scholarship fund ang CHED para sa science / non-maintream courses. ang problema, yung ibang estudyante... kukuha ng scholarship at mag enroll sa science course... tapos pagkatapos ng ilang sem biglang mag shift sa mainstream course. yung ilang eskuwelahan naman, ginagawang gatasan ito - mag susubmit ng fake papers or mag claim ng subsidy kahit wala na yung estudyante.

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    another problem with the Philippines, especially with tertiary education, most Filipinos "feel" that our public schools / colleges / universities are a POS (except for UP).

    when in fact... especially in science / technical / vocational courses... state U / college studes are doing pretty well. instead of enrolling in La Salle or Ateneo... why not enroll in BSU, CLSU & MSU?

    another problem... many students jump in the bandwagon of mainstream course offerings (like masscom, commerce, buss admin, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    another problem with the Philippines, especially with tertiary education, most Filipinos "feel" that our public schools / colleges / universities are a POS (except for UP).

    when in fact... especially in science / technical / vocational courses... state U / college studes are doing pretty well. instead of enrolling in La Salle or Ateneo... why not enroll in BSU, CLSU & MSU?

    another problem... many students jump in the bandwagon of mainstream course offerings (like masscom, commerce, buss admin, etc.).
    Tell that to the employer. Hehehe.

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