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    Nostradamus had 'grim warning' for new pope
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...4/s1340993.htm

    The pope elected to succeed John Paul II will be assassinated and his death will spark a Muslim invasion of the West that will split the Roman Catholic church, according to an interpretation of Nostradamus's prophecies by a leading Colombian author.

    "The next pope elected will be subsequently murdered in central Italy," said Gonzalo Echeverri, a Colombian investigating judge and author of a book on Nostradamus.

    "Then comes pope number 112, who will flee Rome because of an attack by Muslims."

    Mr Echeverri says the pope will base himself in Avignon, France, and another pontiff will take control in Italy, splitting the Catholic church in two.

    "There is a very clear prophecy that says the holy father will move to another place, even warning that the French pope will not be able to stay in Avignon due to the Muslim invasion and will flee again to Lyon, where he will be attacked, according to Nostradamus," Echeverri said.

    Avignon was a base for popes for much of the 14th century, another time of grave divisions in the church and Europe.

    Nostradamus was a 16th century scholar who made prophecies.

    His supporters say he predicted the French revolution, the rise of Hitler and the assassination of President John F Kennedy.

    -AFP

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    Muslim invasion?

    It maybe appropriate in Nostradamus' times, but nowadays? Hmmm...

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    bakit hindi appropriate? baka hindi lang literal... like conversion of people, or parang yun nangyari sa holy land, na naging minoruty na lang ang christians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder
    bakit hindi appropriate? baka hindi lang literal... like conversion of people, or parang yun nangyari sa holy land, na naging minoruty na lang ang christians...
    Dba in the middle ages... uso yung Christian-Muslim / "religious" wars... in this time wala pa namang indication of something like that happening...

    Kung conversion, parang medyo malabo... Italy is a very staunch Roman-Catholic country. Imagine trying to convert the Philippines to another religion...

    But let's see...

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    Subject to interpretation naman kasi ang sinasabi ni Nostradamus.

    Malay niyo, Nostradamus also saw the arrival of the teletubbies. Depende na lang sa interpreter iyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Dba in the middle ages... uso yung Christian-Muslim / "religious" wars... in this time wala pa namang indication of something like that happening...

    Kung conversion, parang medyo malabo... Italy is a very staunch Roman-Catholic country. Imagine trying to convert the Philippines to another religion...

    But let's see...
    malabo nga... pero yun na yun pinakamalapit mangyari eh... baka hindi talaga mangyayari... we create our own destiny naman eh... baka ma-involve illuminati... or something... hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Kung conversion, parang medyo malabo... Italy is a very staunch Roman-Catholic country.
    In Europe you can find a lot of empty Cathedrals. Half of the world's Catholics can be found in Latin America. Catholicism is growing in Africa, Asia and other places. Muslims are migrating to Europe to escape the problems in the Middle East.
    Imagine trying to convert the Philippines to another religion...
    It happened before way back in 1521. The natives of the archipelago now known as the Philippines used to believe in different dietiest, spirits, etc.
    Last edited by OTO; April 11th, 2005 at 12:11 AM.

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    1521 is different from 2005

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder
    1521 is different from 2005
    How so? They had there own religion and we have our own religion. How did Protestantism take root in very Roman Catholic Philippines after 1898?
    Last edited by OTO; April 11th, 2005 at 01:04 AM.

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    Malay niyo, Nostradamus also saw the arrival of the teletubbies.
    i am guessing that he did. :lol:

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    ano ba yun teletubbies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    ano ba yun teletubbies?
    the spawn of Satan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    How so? They had there own religion and we have our own religion. How did Protestantism take root in very Roman Catholic Philippines after 1898?
    kasi iba ang society ngayon at dati... parehas ba ang mga tao nun 1990s and 1980s? people do change... everything change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder
    kasi iba ang society ngayon at dati... parehas ba ang mga tao nun 1990s and 1980s? people do change... everything change...
    So our ancestors are wrong and we're right? In 100 year's time our great great great grand kids are right and we're wrong?

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    parehas ba ang mga tao nun 1990s and 1980s? people do change... everything change...

    basta ako ayoko na isuot ang 80's na damit pag naulit fashion hehehe. yun 70's medyo fashionable pa hehehe ... kidding aside, mahirap siguro mag-convert P'nas to another religion. Even with the American influence today on the way we eat, talk, dress and entertain ourselves. konti pa din ang penetration ng Protestantism d2.

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    well not all his predictions came true right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchph1
    well not all his predictions came true right?
    I hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO
    So our ancestors are wrong and we're right? In 100 year's time our great great great grand kids are right and we're wrong?
    maybe. people do learn from trial and error way... we learn from the experience nun mga ancestors natin...

    before newton's laws... ngayon theory of relativity...

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    I saw a feature before in Discovery Channel about the predictions of Nostradamus... really an eye opener. Whether or not those predictions happened we'll never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by van_wilder
    maybe. people do learn from trial and error way... we learn from the experience nun mga ancestors natin...

    before newton's laws... ngayon theory of relativity...
    Newton's Laws are still valid from before until the present. Are you saying our ancestor's beliefs are valid or invalid today? Once upon a time our ancestors followed the culture of the Spanish and now after 50 years of occupation we're more American than Spanish.

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