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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sometimes kasi,
    the road was already there, back when life was simpler.

    for example,
    when i was much younger,
    half these roads didn't have, and didn't need, stoplights.

    errr,
    i do not understand your complaint, based on the picture...
    ... shouldn't the signage be on the asphalt?
    gaano ba ka hirap i re-mount o ipihit yung traffic light na ang pula ang nasa taas??? nung nasa china ako inaalis nila yan kase nag eexperiment sila ng self driving cars at kailangan standard ang layout ng lahat ng traffic lights tska matindi ang NCAP dun kase nga factory sila ng CCTV at wala daw patawad ang NCAP kase computer ang nang dedesisyon kase napaka ayos ng kalsada nila, lahat ng marking visible at human error na lang talaga ang pwede cause ng NCAP violation...

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    for team building lang yun dito sa opis.. dito lang sa Luzon ang target namin.. ayaw na nila sa Pansol.. sawang sawa na.. and may budget lang na sinusunod..

    before pandemic.. nag Puerto Galera kami.. kaya lang 2D 1N lang kasi may pasok na.. so sobrang pagod lang..

    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    kaka tapos lang ng travel expo sa moa last week... punta ka sa travel expo ngayon oct 21-23, 22 sa okada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    gaano ba ka hirap i re-mount o ipihit yung traffic light na ang pula ang nasa taas??? nung nasa china ako inaalis nila yan kase nag eexperiment sila ng self driving cars at kailangan standard ang layout ng lahat ng traffic lights tska matindi ang NCAP dun kase nga factory sila ng CCTV at wala daw patawad ang NCAP kase computer ang nang dedesisyon kase napaka ayos ng kalsada nila, lahat ng marking visible at human error na lang talaga ang pwede cause ng NCAP violation...
    1. clearance, i.e., some roads are frequented by tall container vans, atbp. a vertical array stands a larger chance of being hit.

    2. visibility. a vertical array may, in some locations, not be completely visible, compared to a horizontal array.

    3. high wind resistance. horizontally-installed lights may be sturdier in high wind than vertical, hanging ones.

    but horizontal or vertical, they still have to follow the correct arrangement of red-yellow-green, for the color-blind drivers.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 10th, 2022 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    1. clearance, i.e., some roads are frequented by tall container vans, atbp. a vertical array stands a larger chance of being hit.

    2. visibility. a vertical array may, in some locations, not be completely visible, compared to a horizontal array.

    3. high wind resistance. horizontally-installed lights may be sturdier in high wind than vertical, hanging ones.
    how common do you see horizontal traffic lights? majority dito is vertical, kaya dapat majority wins para hindi confusing... iba usapan sa maynila kase dun single box light ang traffic light na okay na sana kung each lane ng road meron box light para alam mo saan direksyon ang gusto sabihin ng traffic light

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    #26345
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    how common do you see horizontal traffic lights? majority dito is vertical, kaya dapat majority wins para hindi confusing... iba usapan sa maynila kase dun single box light ang traffic light na okay na sana kung each lane ng road meron box light para alam mo saan direksyon ang gusto sabihin ng traffic light
    i do not recall any horizontal stoplight, along my driving route.
    but that may be because i am not unduly hampered by its design.

    i'm not confused, naman.
    vertical or horizontal, malinaw naman siguro, kung anong kulay nang stoplight ang naka-ilaw.
    ibang usapan na yan, kung the driver is color-blind, and the lights are not arranged in the prescribed pattern.

    where is that corner in your initial post?
    is it frequented by container vans?

    errr,
    are color-blinds allowed to drive on public philippine roads?


    BUT I AM CURIOUS,
    WHAT DO THE OTHER TSIKOTEERS THINK?

    apologies for the all caps. i had to get attention...
    Last edited by dr. d; October 10th, 2022 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i do not recall any horizontal stoplight, along my driving route.
    but that may be because i am not unduly hampered by its design.

    i'm not confused, naman.
    vertical or horizontal, malinaw naman siguro, kung anong kulay nang stoplight ang naka-ilaw.
    ibang usapan na yan, kung the driver is color-blind, and the lights are not arranged in the prescribed pattern.

    where is that corner in your initial post?
    is it frequented by container vans?

    errr,
    are color-blinds allowed to drive on public philippine roads?
    example shaw blvrd cor san roque street sa pasig heading sm megamall, hindi ko alam kung dinadaanan yan ng truck. i have prescrption glasses kaya sureball malinaw mata ko when driving, kase nga malayo pa lang gusto ko nasa tama linya ako ng kalsada kaya malayo pa lang tinitignan ko ang layout ng traffic light kung meron ba siya forced left turn o wala... hindi tulad nung iba na nakita na may forced left turn ang traffic light pero nasa leftmost lane pa din na yun pala ay dederetso sila ng andar...

    nung nakita ko yan horizontal traffic light sa malayo ay ang una pumasok sa isip ko ay sa nag daan bagyo ay natangal yung parte niya sa taas nung naka ilaw yung green kase nga rare yan mga horizontal traffic light sa metro manila... kaya confusing

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    #26347
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post


    BUT I AM CURIOUS,
    WHAT DO THE OTHER TSIKOTEERS THINK?

    apologies for the all caps. i had to get attention...
    what was i thinking!
    apologies to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    nakaka inis yung mga syudad na gumagamit ng non standard layout ng traffic light, kase malayo pa lang tinitignan ko na yan kung meron ba forced left turn o wala...

    Parang sa intersection ito ng Mercedes at Market Ave sa Pasig. Di ako nadadaan dito ng rush hour. Pero pag nadaan ako jan (mostly tanghali na), hindi naman forced ang left turn.

    Sa Bagong Ilog din horizontal ang stoplight. Same sa may Pasig Cathedral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yubby24 View Post
    Parang sa intersection ito ng Mercedes at Market Ave sa Pasig. Di ako nadadaan dito ng rush hour. Pero pag nadaan ako jan (mostly tanghali na), hindi naman forced ang left turn.
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    i do not see how a stoplight can communicate the "this lane must turn left" message.
    i expect that warning on signage by the left side of the road, or (less effectively) pasted on the asphalt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i do not see how a stoplight can communicate the "this lane must turn left" message.
    i expect that warning on signage by the left side of the road, or (less effectively) pasted on the asphalt.
    this traffic light is saying the left lane must turn LEFT on a 3 lane street

    on a 2 lane street naman, it is saying that there is a left turn available and is possibly in sync with forward direction or not kaya if you have no intentions to turn LEFT then go to the right side

    Last edited by Stigg ma; October 10th, 2022 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    this traffic light is saying the left lane must turn LEFT on a 3 lane street

    on a 2 lane street naman, it is saying that there is a left turn available and is possibly in sync with forward direction or not kaya if you have no intentions to turn LEFT then go to the right side

    this is not in the philippines...

    or my stoplight knowledge must be down at heel.

    errr,
    ian dyball is a british subject. they drive on the wrong side of the road, there.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 10th, 2022 at 06:49 PM.

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    #26352
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    this is not in the philippines...

    or my stoplight knowledge must be down at heel.

    errr,
    ian dyball is a british subject. they drive on the wrong side of the road, there.
    eto philippines, this traffic light from far away tells you that left lane must turn LEFT


    traffic-light.jpg

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    #26353
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    eto philippines, this traffic light from far away tells you that left lane must turn LEFT


    traffic-light.jpg
    it does?
    it seems, the red car went straight, as did the black vehicle in front of it.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 10th, 2022 at 07:33 PM.

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    #26354
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    eto philippines, this traffic light from far away tells you that left lane must turn LEFT


    traffic-light.jpg
    what's wrong if cars on the left go straight?

    pareho naman green ung left and straight

    ang mali ito:

    may mga road na mag green ang left pero red parin ang straight

    tapos may gusto mag straight nakapila sa leftmost lane

    so naka hinto parin siya di maka left mga nasa likod niya

    yan ang mali

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    or rightmost lane only for cars turning right anytime with care

    meron mga going straight naka hinto sa rightmost lane waiting for green light

    so inabala niya mga gusto mag right anytime with care

    yan ang mali

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    what's wrong if cars on the left go straight?

    pareho naman green ung left and straight

    ang mali ito:

    may mga road na mag green ang left pero red parin ang straight

    tapos may gusto mag straight nakapila sa leftmost lane

    so naka hinto parin siya di maka left mga nasa likod niya

    yan ang mali
    kase malayo pa lang sinabihan ka na ng traffic light na LEFT turn is available, kung wala ka balak mag left turn ay wag ka dun sa left most lane pumila...

    kaya nag ka loko loko traffic natin dahil dito, may traffic light na may ilaw o provision para sa left turn tapos pipila sa left lane na wala naman balak mag left turn tapos pag nag pula ang left turn eh lilipat sa kanan na crossing the solid lane para maka deretso, boom huli ng NCAP
    Last edited by Stigg ma; October 10th, 2022 at 08:35 PM.

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    meron mga left turner nanggagaling sa 2nd lane

    ina-assume nila ung nasa leftmost lane mag left din

    pero may mga leftmost dumederecho

    sapol

    yan ang mali
    Last edited by uls; October 10th, 2022 at 08:35 PM.

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    i combed thru the LTO rules, looking for "double-banked stoplights with left-turn arrow lights, automatically reserving leftmost lane for left-turners only".
    i could not find it.
    maybe you folks can find it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    meron mga left turner nanggagaling sa 2nd lane

    ina-assume nila ung nasa leftmost lane mag left din

    pero may mga leftmost dumederecho

    sapol

    yan ang mali
    yan mismo kaya nag ka loko loko ang traffic natin, parang kasalanan pa nung traffic light na hindi nasabihan ang motorista na meron left turn,

    tapos meron pa yung 2 lane road na may left turn traffic light

    naka red ang forward pero naka green ang left turn, yung nasa harap sa leftmost lane wala balak mag left turn at yung nasa likod niya na gusto mag left turn ay di maka usad... pero tatanong ninyo kung baket naka green ang left turn pero naka red ang forward??? kase meron pedestrian crossing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    yan mismo kaya nag ka loko loko ang traffic natin, parang kasalanan pa nung traffic light na hindi nasabihan ang motorista na meron left turn,

    tapos meron pa yung 2 lane road na may left turn traffic light

    naka red ang forward pero naka green ang left turn, yung nasa harap sa leftmost lane wala balak mag left turn at yung nasa likod niya na gusto mag left turn ay di maka usad... pero tatanong ninyo kung baket naka green ang left turn pero naka red ang forward??? kase meron pedestrian crossing
    Error 44 (Not Found)!!1

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    Parang ito sa Aurora Blvd. Araw araw daming nahuhuli dahil nasa left turn traffic tapos direcho pala sya. Ending tawid sa solid line then paparahin ng enforcers pagtawid.

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