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  1. Join Date
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    I have a friend who worked in Saudi for a year and he's in the Philippines having his annual vacation. Na realize nya na ayaw na nyang bumalik sa Saudi to work and he just sent his resignation through email sa employer nya kasi hindi nmn fair ang treatment ng employer nya within the company.
    As expected, the employer does not expect this from him at wala nmn silang magawa para pabalikin sya.

    This time, yung employment agency nya is harassing sya at tinatakot sya na bibigyan daw sya ng hold departure order para nde na sya makapag abroad ulit.

    Let it be known na wala syang iniwan na utang sa Saudi at ang employment contract nya is unlimited. So nde specified kung 2 , 3 yrs etc.

    Ang question ko. May power ba yung employment agency na bigyan sya ng hold deparure order?

    Sa opinion ko kasi ay wala dahil wala nmn syang ginawang criminal record sa philippines at kelangan may court order or warrant of arrest para magkaroon sya ng hold departure order.

    ANo sa tingin nyo?

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    a big BLUFF!!!

  3. Join Date
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    walang power ang agency. re sa threats..pwede ka mag file ng complain sa POEA, DOLE or pa blotter mo sa local baranggay sa mga threats na ginawa ng agency...........

  4. Join Date
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    Ayun na nga din yung tingin ko.

    Kasi worried yung friend ko na mag apply for abroad dahil baka harangin sya sa immigration.

    Ang alam ko, pwede nya icheck sa immigration kung may hold departure order sa kanya. Although parang waste of time nga kasi I agree na BLUFF lng talaga ng agency yun kasi wala silang magawa dahil ayaw na ngang bumalik nung kaibigan ko sa company nya.

  5. Join Date
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    ang pwede:

    the saudi company, he worked for earlier to block his entry to saudi if working for a competition... 1 year yata muna syang magpapalipas, and if malakas ang dating employer pwede lifeban.

  6. Join Date
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    don't believe that, la sila magagawa kung ayaw na ng tao, at nag send naman siya ng resignation, bro 2x ko na ginawa ito sa dati ko na mga company, sa akin nga di ko tinapos ang contract pero wala naman naging problem.

  7. Join Date
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    Hehehe. Well good to hear that.

    Pwede p nmn sya mag apply sa ibang countries at may better option pa din.

    Thanks for the inputs.

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    kung iyong passport niya may stamp exit re - entry at valid pa contract niya min of 6 months bago sya pwde bumalik sa SAUDI or change passport n lamang siya if SAUDI niya gusto bumalik but kung sa ibang bansa ok lang same passport pwde niya gmitin wla karapatan agency pra give instruction ang immigration pra sa hold departure niya ang nkita ko lang problema sa knya kung sakali bumalik sya sa SAUDI and join other Company at mlaman dati niyang employer pwde sya bigyan ng problema dapat gawin ng fren mo huminggi sya ng no objection certificate sa dating employer.
    Sa working contract wla company na give unlimited contract ... khit 2 yrs - 3yrs pa iyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OILSLICK View Post
    kung iyong passport niya may stamp exit re - entry at valid pa contract niya min of 6 months bago sya pwde bumalik sa SAUDI or change passport n lamang siya if SAUDI niya gusto bumalik but kung sa ibang bansa ok lang same passport pwde niya gmitin wla karapatan agency pra give instruction ang immigration pra sa hold departure niya ang nkita ko lang problema sa knya kung sakali bumalik sya sa SAUDI and join other Company at mlaman dati niyang employer pwde sya bigyan ng problema dapat gawin ng fren mo huminggi sya ng no objection certificate sa dating employer.
    Sa working contract wla company na give unlimited contract ... khit 2 yrs - 3yrs pa iyan.
    Korekek ka diyan, OilSlick. Matagal na ako naga-abroad, pero once na umalis ka na, wala na pakialam yung agency na nagpa-alis sa iyo. Bakit naman sila magi-issue ng HDO sa immigration? Alam kong binibigyan nyan, yung mga may kaso sa atin. Marami na akong kasama na ginawa ito, pero ni minsan, wala namang humabol na agency sa kanila.

    Baka nagsumbong yung Saudi employer sa employment agency na nagpaalis sa kaniya, kaya siguro ganun. Tama ba?

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    Wala po yatang ganyan.....

    :starwars:

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    tama sabi ng isang poster ,malamang nag order iyon employer niya sa Saudi sa Phil recruitment agency dito sa pinas na i harras iyon .pinoy na hindi bumalik
    kasi alam ng agency ang contact details ni KABAYAN

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    haha ang pede lang gawin ng agency mo i ban sya sa kanilang agency company i mean kung mag apply uli ang friend mo sa agency na yan for another company and another contract or another country di na pede.

    Pero HDO hehe me batas tayo dyan di basta basta ginagawa yan maliban na lang kung me ari ng agency si Raul Gonzales

    parang IPAMS sa leon guinto kahigpit dyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qman View Post
    haha ang pede lang gawin ng agency mo i ban sya sa kanilang agency company i mean kung mag apply uli ang friend mo sa agency na yan for another company and another contract or another country di na pede.

    Pero HDO hehe me batas tayo dyan di basta basta ginagawa yan maliban na lang kung me ari ng agency si Raul Gonzales

    parang IPAMS sa leon guinto kahigpit dyan.
    sir qman ,bakit po mahigpit sa IPAMS.ganon din ba kahigpit sa Omafil at EDI staffbuilder at JS contractor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoEinG_747 View Post
    tama sabi ng isang poster ,malamang nag order iyon employer niya sa Saudi sa Phil recruitment agency dito sa pinas na i harras iyon .pinoy na hindi bumalik, kasi alam ng agency ang contact details ni KABAYAN

    Sigurado yan, kasi, pag nauwi naman tayo, di naman tayo nagri-report sa agency na nagpa-alis sa atin di ba? Not unless na yung worker, nadalaw pa rin sa agency.

    Usually naman pag napaalis ka na nila, wala na sila pakialam, not unless na magkaroon ng problema sa pinuntahan ng worker.

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    only courts can order hold departure order for certain crimes. OT: mas malupit ang blacklist in doj kasi di ka makakaalis kahit blacklist lang.

    as to the question, what can the employer legally do is to file an administrative case before the poea for blacklisting on the ground of failure to complete the contract. with that, your relative "may" be barred from seeking employment abroad; or stated otherwise, his subsequent contract of employment abroad would not be approved by poea so long as his name is in the blacklist.

    as to whether he can travel, he can so long as he has a visa to the country he intends to go to. what is only affected is his foreign employment as an ofw, which normally goes throough a local agency and approved by poea.

    if the agency did not bother to file an administrative case, he may seek foreign employment through another agency. no sweat. if he is blacklisted, he may need to contest it. that's a lot of sweat.



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    bakit babalik ka pa ng saudi eh dami naman ngayon opportunities sa ibang country like former soviet. boom ngayon ang construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rilkeanvein View Post
    Ang question ko. May power ba yung employment agency na bigyan sya ng hold deparure order?
    Wala! marami gumagawa nyan, magbabakasyon di na bumabalik.

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    WALA! Pure harassment and BS from the employer. Maraming employer ang gumagawa nito - mostly ME employers.

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    that's a pure harrassment technique... an employment agency have no authority on the issuance of HDO. ano bang pangalan ng agency na yan para maisumbong kay tulfo... hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Sigurado yan, kasi, pag nauwi naman tayo, di naman tayo nagri-report sa agency na nagpa-alis sa atin di ba? Not unless na yung worker, nadalaw pa rin sa agency.

    Usually naman pag napaalis ka na nila, wala na sila pakialam, not unless na magkaroon ng problema sa pinuntahan ng worker.
    bro minsan nga may problema na ang OFW na napaalis nila pinababayaan pa din nila


    that's a pure harrassment technique... an employment agency have no authority on the issuance of HDO. ano bang pangalan ng agency na yan para maisumbong kay tulfo
    to topic starter ,mas maganda nga paki post dito ang name ng agency ,para maiwasan ng iba natin kababayan ang ganyan agency tingin ko mukhang mahilig sa lagay iyan

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