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    Si Putin. rich, healthy and powerful.

    may judo instructional videos pa siya. idol.


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    why is it people have the impression rich people are miserable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    OB, you don't get it

    one difference between Chinese and Pinoys is Pinoys do not think about sustainability

    a pinoy who becomes wealthy will live life to the max

    he will want to experience everything (cars, big house, food, travel, other pleasures) coz the thinking is -- you only live once

    so wealth is squandered, back to zero, isip uli ng bagong racket

    well, at least na-experience niya ang good life

    accurate ba description ko?

    dami pinoy ganyan

    mahirap, guminhawa, waldas, naghirap uli, kayod, guminhawa uli, waldas uli

    the Chinese have a different view

    the Chinese are after SUSTAINABILITY

    they may have tons of money but they don't go spending like crazy

    they think years, decades into the future

    they choose a lifestyle that they can sustain for generations

    kaya pansin mo Chinese-owned businesses last a long time

    there are Chinese-owned businesses that have been around for generations

    business ng lolo, napunta sa tatay, napunta sa apo

    sustainability dude

    the Chinese try to avoid rollercoaster finances (rising and falling fortunes)

    their lives are steady

    hindi yung hirap ginhawa hirap ginhawa

    that's what you're not doing OB

    sa mga posts mo, it's obvious you have rollercoaster finances

    your businesses don't last

    your businesses are hit and run business

    but hey, that's your style
    pakiramdam ko magkaka-cancer ako kakaiisip kung pano papano i-increase, magtatago ng pera. parang everything revolves around money. compute-compute from a measily trip to the grocery store, magkano inubos ng fuel consumption, ano ang may mga promo, mas mura ba pag volume etc. etc.

    you're right ayaw ko talaga yan sustainability long term na yan.

    it's just not healthy

    and regarding me thinking about grand-grand-grandchildren's future is so mind-boggling. they should have a life of their own, to decide, to fall and to rise up when needed. it maybe noble for me to think of their future but there are so many things in life that cant just be controlled by money.

    enforcing one's belief on someone lalo na sa next generation can be futile. if you earn a billion on your lifetime, it will only take one disgruntled grandchild to waste it all away. and even i'm lucky enough not to have one, the kind of life that i provide with my golden-spoon fed grandchildren can easily be taken away by some street-smart person their age who lives a rollercoaster life and have nothing to lose.

    kung tuusin this is the reason why the Philippines has a big problem in distribution of wealth. resources are being reserved for the unborn while there are lot who are living now who have less or nothing at all.

    people with so much money think so much far ahead to protect their own not thinking that what they do now can very much affect what they envision for their future. we are all connected whether we like it or not.

    kitang-kita na nga eh, smart/intelligent kids work/open private corporations/hit businesses in the future, the carefree/average kids go to govt. agencies/institutions/life of crime/left-leaning groups. and so what's the end result? eh di ba Pilipinas. whether we like it or not, we will still have to deal with each other.

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    *uls, everytime i go to national bookstore, lagi ko tintignan yun book na A Purpose-Driven Life. i haven't read it yetbut i think i have an idea of what it is by just reading the title. when it says life, it's singular. meaning one's life. but of course, one's life should affect another life in order to yun na nga have a purpose. but affecting another life is tad different from taking charge of another life ... and i guess this is where the danger lies. hindi lang naman limited ito sa mga Fil-chinese way of life, but also our politicians, our idealistic countrymen, etc. some of us think that we are the center of the universe and therefore, dyan nagkaka-daleche-leche ang buhay natin laht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    why is it people have the impression rich people are miserable?
    Yeah I think its just a self defense mechanism of people who are not so rich to defend themselves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    my boss is rich.....

    What do you expect? Money always flows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Yeah I think its just a self defense mechanism of people who are not so rich to defend themselves...

    pampalubag loob

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    Quote Originally Posted by vito corleone View Post
    pampalubag loob
    EXACTLY! Parang to boost self esteem na din... Pero deep inside syempre gusto rin nila maging mayaman at masaya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    why is it people have the impression rich people are miserable?
    the good thing about misery is its unbounded or not limited to the poor/unfortunate only.

    a rich person can live a miserable life and i guess most of them do, if they're addicted to money or power or wealth or the finer things in life or if they have some inner angst that money cant just erase away.

    let me give you an example, my dad and me na lang. me and my dad never had a good relationship. my dad always pushes me, belittles my achievements, scolds me when he senses that i'm getting carefree/weak. we are not chinese but i guess my dad adopted the chinese way of thinking. why? the only reason i can think of is bec. he was poor and oppressed during his younger years. ayaw nya mangyari sa'min yun. fair enough, ok I understand it.

    but it's just so unbearable being the good son and the not the prodigal son i was given a different set of rules it's almost as if i'm the family CEO and my dad the business owner. kung sa outside world ganyan na ang setup ko, sa sarili pamilya ko pa kaya. and asan yun family na supposed to be with unconditional caring and love no matter how palpak you are.

    and so i re-read and re-read the Parable of the Prodigal Son. it took me years to understand it's real meaning and somehow, i may have unlocked the secret of life. you know what the secret is ... "lambing". lambing is humility + loving the prodigal son turned out to be the winner in the parable only bec. he had one important trait, he was humble enough to go back to his father after his life of having his own way.

    so ano ba ito having his own way, it could be an executive who reached the top position, a businessman who became a trillionaire, an easy go lucky guy who partied his way through life.

    so yun lang pala, whatever you achieved, don't brag about it your father and threaten him na if he didn't acknowledge, you'll go away. and i guess that's why a lot of rich people are miserable, they don't feel loved. imagine all that trouble hoarding and hoarding money, ang gusto lang pala nila is to feel genuinely loved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Again I want to re-iterate that being rich and having quality life is not contradicting to each other... One can have both!
    I agree! Yun nga ang main purpose why everybody wants to get rich! So that they could enjoy life and start living, instead of working so hard just to make ends meet......

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    why is it people have the impression rich people are miserable?
    I guess trickle down effect of the propaganda used by the church during the spanish era? which is still being used up to this day....

    Akala siguro nila na kelangan mo kumayod double time para kumita ng mas malaki tapos sobrang tipid sa pera at hindi na nag-eenjoy tapos sobrang pagod pa sa kakatrabaho, hindi nila naisip na these people just have to work smarter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    EXACTLY! Parang to boost self esteem na din... Pero deep inside syempre gusto rin nila maging mayaman at masaya!
    Don't know why people need to do that.

    Malaki din ang pinagkaiba ng rich sa feeling rich at sa pasosyal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    EXACTLY! Parang to boost self esteem na din... Pero deep inside syempre gusto rin nila maging mayaman at masaya!
    deep inside. . .sino ba naman ang ayaw maranasang yumaman?

    being richer gives you better options on how to live your life

    for example, we all travel from one place to another. . .the poor people can only afford to take public transport but a lot of them always wonder/wish how convenient it would be if they had their own cars

    for the rich, they can afford to travel or move to places in private vehicles, and if they feel like it, they can also choose to take public transportation anytime they want to

    another example is in food, wala kang maririning na mayamang tao na umangal, "araw-araw na lang tuyo ang ulam natin!"

    it's a lot of times frustrating to think that your options are very limited

    of course, me mga taong genuinely contented kung ano ang meron sila, and i envy them

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    the good thing about misery is its unbounded or not limited to the poor/unfortunate only.

    a rich person can live a miserable life and i guess most of them do, if they're addicted to money or power or wealth or the finer things in life or if they have some inner angst that money cant just erase away.

    let me give you an example, my dad and me na lang. me and my dad never had a good relationship. my dad always pushes me, belittles my achievements, scolds me when he senses that i'm getting carefree/weak. we are not chinese but i guess my dad adopted the chinese way of thinking. why? the only reason i can think of is bec. he was poor and oppressed during his younger years. ayaw nya mangyari sa'min yun. fair enough, ok I understand it.

    but it's just so unbearable being the good son and the not the prodigal son i was given a different set of rules it's almost as if i'm the family CEO and my dad the business owner. kung sa outside world ganyan na ang setup ko, sa sarili pamilya ko pa kaya. and asan yun family na supposed to be with unconditional caring and love no matter how palpak you are.

    and so i re-read and re-read the Parable of the Prodigal Son. it took me years to understand it's real meaning and somehow, i may have unlocked the secret of life. you know what the secret is ... "lambing". lambing is humility + loving the prodigal son turned out to be the winner in the parable only bec. he had one important trait, he was humble enough to go back to his father after his life of having his own way.

    so ano ba ito having his own way, it could be an executive who reached the top position, a businessman who became a trillionaire, an easy go lucky guy who partied his way through life.

    so yun lang pala, whatever you achieved, don't brag about it your father and threaten him na if he didn't acknowledge, you'll go away. and i guess that's why a lot of rich people are miserable, they don't feel loved. imagine all that trouble hoarding and hoarding money, ang gusto lang pala nila is to feel genuinely loved.
    You know what man, you make long posts. Although sometimes it's good to read, it always appears that you try a little too hard on making a point. What do you get from this ha? Do you get paid by the number of letters you type? Is that your new way of making money?

    You are just annoying. Like that little fat kid in gradeschool that just eats food in the corner and don't socialize with the class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    pakiramdam ko magkaka-cancer ako kakaiisip kung pano papano i-increase, magtatago ng pera. parang everything revolves around money. compute-compute from a measily trip to the grocery store, magkano inubos ng fuel consumption, ano ang may mga promo, mas mura ba pag volume etc. etc.
    hindi ba kinukwento mo mura bili mo sa mga clothes, shoes, shades etc sa States?

    ikaw din naman cost conscious ka eh

    pero yung mga kilala ko hindi naman sila nagtitipid to the point na kino-compute ang km/liter

    actually wala sila pakialam sa presyo ng gas

    kahit noong 2008 super spike wala sila pakialam


    you're right ayaw ko talaga yan sustainability long term na yan.
    yep i'm right

    pakiramdam ko magkaka-cancer ako kakaiisip...

    it's just not healthy
    you say that coz figuring out how to protect (invest) large sums of money boggles your mind

    it's a problem to you

    so what you do is spend everything para wala ka na iisipin

    and regarding me thinking about grand-grand-grandchildren's future is so mind-boggling. they should have a life of their own, to decide, to fall and to rise up when needed. it maybe noble for me to think of their future but there are so many things in life that cant just be controlled by money.

    enforcing one's belief on someone lalo na sa next generation can be futile. if you earn a billion on your lifetime, it will only take one disgruntled grandchild to waste it all away. and even i'm lucky enough not to have one, the kind of life that i provide with my golden-spoon fed grandchildren can easily be taken away by some street-smart person their age who lives a rollercoaster life and have nothing to lose.
    in short, the welfare of your descendants isnt your problem

    problema na nila yan

    you wouldnt be around long enough to see what happens to them anyway right?

    but some people care about their descendants

    well, yes, baka waldasin lang

    it's a gamble

    like you said, life's a gamble

    you're not willing to take that risk (preserve wealth for your descendants) coz you think wawaldasin lang nila

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    the good thing about misery is its unbounded or not limited to the poor/unfortunate only.

    a rich person can live a miserable life and i guess most of them do, if they're addicted to money or power or wealth or the finer things in life or if they have some inner angst that money cant just erase away.

    let me give you an example, my dad and me na lang. me and my dad never had a good relationship. my dad always pushes me, belittles my achievements, scolds me when he senses that i'm getting carefree/weak. we are not chinese but i guess my dad adopted the chinese way of thinking. why? the only reason i can think of is bec. he was poor and oppressed during his younger years. ayaw nya mangyari sa'min yun. fair enough, ok I understand it.

    but it's just so unbearable being the good son and the not the prodigal son i was given a different set of rules it's almost as if i'm the family CEO and my dad the business owner. kung sa outside world ganyan na ang setup ko, sa sarili pamilya ko pa kaya. and asan yun family na supposed to be with unconditional caring and love no matter how palpak you are.

    and so i re-read and re-read the Parable of the Prodigal Son. it took me years to understand it's real meaning and somehow, i may have unlocked the secret of life. you know what the secret is ... "lambing". lambing is humility + loving the prodigal son turned out to be the winner in the parable only bec. he had one important trait, he was humble enough to go back to his father after his life of having his own way.

    so ano ba ito having his own way, it could be an executive who reached the top position, a businessman who became a trillionaire, an easy go lucky guy who partied his way through life.

    so yun lang pala, whatever you achieved, don't brag about it your father and threaten him na if he didn't acknowledge, you'll go away. and i guess that's why a lot of rich people are miserable, they don't feel loved. imagine all that trouble hoarding and hoarding money, ang gusto lang pala nila is to feel genuinely loved.
    so in short, OB, kulang ka lang sa lambing at pagmamahal

    kaya ka nagkaganyan


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    Sus pilosopo naman

    Kaya nga ginamit ko na example,tao may 100M tsaka 50M kuno, kasi obviously yung squatter na masaya di po kasama sa play kasi poor talaga yun jologs at hampas lupa

    Ang mayaman kasi sa akin, mayaman sa lahat hindi sa pera lang o sa kaibigan o sa pamilya. Siempre yung squatter na buo ang pamilya at masaya, obyus ba na di mayaman yun, Yung may pambili ng appliances at bahay per hindi buo ang pamilya(well para sakin hindi din yun) ewan ko lang sa iba. Yung maraming pera, buo pamilya pero may kung ano anong sakit dahil sa tension hindi din yun.

    Dapat balansiyado po, maraming pera,healthy na healthy, buong buo ang pamilya. Siksik Liglig at umaapaw!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    You know what man, you make long posts. Although sometimes it's good to read, it always appears that you try a little too hard on making a point. What do you get from this ha? Do you get paid by the number of letters you type? Is that your new way of making money?

    You are just annoying. Like that little fat kid in gradeschool that just eats food in the corner and don't socialize with the class.
    bale free time ko lang yan kaya ganyan ako mag-post pag naging busy ako short posts na lang minsan ka limit ko 5 words lang pag tinatamad

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hindi ba kinukwento mo mura bili mo sa mga clothes, shoes, shades etc sa States?

    ikaw din naman cost conscious ka eh

    pero yung mga kilala ko hindi naman sila nagtitipid to the point na kino-compute ang km/liter

    actually wala sila pakialam sa presyo ng gas

    kahit noong 2008 super spike wala sila pakialam




    yep i'm right



    you say that coz figuring out how to protect (invest) large sums of money boggles your mind

    it's a problem to you

    so what you do is spend everything para wala ka na iisipin



    in short, the welfare of your descendants isnt your problem

    problema na nila yan

    you wouldnt be around long enough to see what happens to them anyway right?

    but some people care about their descendants

    well, yes, baka waldasin lang

    it's a gamble

    like you said, life's a gamble

    you're not willing to take that risk (preserve wealth for your descendants) coz you think wawaldasin lang nila
    di naman ako natatakot wawaldasin. ang sabi ko lang no matter how i play in my mind na ganyan mangyayari sa mga descendants ko, i doubt it will happen that way

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    too many people here are getting trolled
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    too many people here are getting trolled
    ob hasn't lost his touch. . .currently, he's got another one in the food and drinks talk

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    Its relative.

    If you can afford an apartment, or better yet, a house, you're rich.
    If you can afford to have a car, oh yeah, you're rich.
    If you can afford an expensive cup of "branded coffee-to-go," I think you're rich.
    If you have different sets of clothes for work, or for weekends, or for staying at home, sports, then I think you're rich.
    Got a mobile phone, an MP3 player, a watch, more than 1 pair of shoes? Darn, you're rich!

    Maybe you think that you can't afford the things that you "want" for now, but do you have money in the bank? Wake up, you're rich!

    Point is, count your blessings! Its a matter of perspective. If we compare ourselves with other people, then you'll never be contented. Maybe even miserable. Enjoy and share the wealth.
    Last edited by Quint; September 17th, 2010 at 09:54 AM. Reason: baka ma-correct

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