MB 190E W201 questions...

[ptk675]

hi guys,

my car has these headlights


is it a simple drop in if I wanted to replace the entire cluster with euro lights like these?


or is there some mods needed on the mounts?

in addition my car still has an R12 AC system, how troublesome is it to replace it with an R134a compatible system if I want to keep the stock climate control system in place?

[mbeige]

hi guys,

my car has these headlights


is it a simple drop in if I wanted to replace the entire cluster with euro lights like these?


or is there some mods needed on the mounts?

in addition my car still has an R12 AC system, how troublesome is it to replace it with an R134a compatible system if I want to keep the stock climate control system in place?

This is a simple case of converting US lights to Euro lights. You'll need the 6-pin socket to wire the Euro light properly, and instructions as to which wire goes to which slot.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...eadlights-.pdf

If you can restore the R12 system, DO IT. If not, converting to R134a will not be as cold as R12. You'll need NEW seals, new adapters for high and low, the old R12 has to be vacated, any leaks have to be fixed, etc.

Problem with R134a is it needs a bigger condenser due to the less dense nature of R134a. Therefore it also needs an R134a specific compressor so it can increase the pressures accordingly to achieve the SAME amount of cooling ability as R12.

[ptk675]

If you can restore the R12 system, DO IT.

thanks sir! next question: diba hindi na pede i register sa LTO pag hindi R134a ang AC?

[Benzmizer]

thanks sir! next question: diba hindi na pede i register sa LTO pag hindi R134a ang AC?

Sabi.... but you must remember you are in the Philippines.... ergo, "anything is possible". Hehehe!

[mbeige]

thanks sir! next question: diba hindi na pede i register sa LTO pag hindi R134a ang AC?

Wala na ako dyan when the policy changed. If your car has R12 fittings na original, leave it be. Masmahusay ang R12 kaysa R134a.

Titignan ba nila ang AC fittings ng sasakyan mo to determine kung naka R12 ka or converted na to R134a?

[tanatej]

Laking pagsisisi ko talaga ang pagconvert ng R12 to R134a. Nothing but headaches, wasted money and a warmer A/C. +1 on staying with R12.

Any idea on how to make sure a 190E I will be looking at is still an R12? Lapit nako makaipon hehehe...

[mbeige]

Laking pagsisisi ko talaga ang pagconvert ng R12 to R134a. Nothing but headaches, wasted money and a warmer A/C. +1 on staying with R12.

Any idea on how to make sure a 190E I will be looking at is still an R12? Lapit nako makaipon hehehe...

Check mo yung nipples ng AC lines. Kung black na plastic or metal na textured, orig na R12 pa yun. Pero kung masmahaba sila na may blue or red na takip, baka na-convert na.

Pwede mo rin check compressor kung napalitan na, minsan may markings sila indicating R134a use only.

Best is to really check (sample) sa suking AC shop.

[ptk675]

hi guys anyone know where I can get door window seals? royal dragon and sunshine are selling them for 3000 each (i need for all 4 doors) so its pretty bloody

[ronw123w124]

hi guys anyone know where I can get door window seals? royal dragon and sunshine are selling them for 3000 each (i need for all 4 doors) so its pretty bloody

Orig ba yan o replacement? Mahal talaga pag orig, spent 20k+ to replace all rubber seals for my w126 (sunroof seal alone is 5.5k). Nagkabit din ako ng replacement na door seals for my w123 pero di ako masyado satisfied sa fit.

[Benzmizer]

I agree with Ron. One "pay the price" -- either when you get replacements (likely not to provide satisfactory results) or get originals (you literally pay premium but sure to guarantee satisfaction)

I suggest you go for originals but do it little by little (if budget is a concern). "Enjoy" the restoration. 1st things 1st.

Incidentally, I have a fresh surplus set of Euro headlamps for 201. Does not come cheap but sure to guarantee you a smile after.