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    #1741
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    they just didn't count on the onion skinned facade of duterte...considering gma 7 also aired the political ad from trillanes w/c was, and still is, the president's primal source of contempt.

    But GMA 7 did not do what they did ... i.e., NOT show the ad that was paid for THEN refuse to return the money ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Hindi ba galit din si PNoy sa ABS-CBN as he said in his speech on the 25th anniversary of the channel? Or kay kabayan lang sya galit?

    Noynoy-Gabby battle of egos was what did ABS-CBN in – The Manila Times

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    #1743
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    after isara, gusto naman pagbayarin at ikunin ang properties:
    House execs want sanctions vs ABS-CBN | Inquirer News
    Was wondering if this part is even true ... who would think they could get away with declaring a 44,000 square meter property as only 44 square meters? ...

    Marcoleta recalled that during the 14-day House inquiry into ABS-CBN’s franchise application, network executives had presented a title for only a 42-sq-m lot, and not the complex housing their buildings and transmitters.

    House execs want sanctions vs ABS-CBN | Inquirer News

    Anyway, the ones who voted against ABS have to make sure that this issue will not come back to haunt them in the future ... so they'll kick the hell out of ABS while it's down ...
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    If you have made too many enemies, don’t expect them to be your friends when in need. Hehehe


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    If Gina Lopez was still alive maybe she could be the bridge between Gabby and Duterte.

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    #1746
    grabe naman kabastos channel 2. Pucha 44thou sqm property gawin mo 2 bedroom condo!!!! hahahahahha

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    #1747
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    grabe naman kabastos channel 2. Pucha 44thou sqm property gawin mo 2 bedroom condo!!!! hahahahahha
    Fake news ka naman. Ganun malakas loob nila i-submit yun documents Pra ibaon sarili nila?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    NOT TRUE ... they counted on Mar winning ... since every candidate that they backed has always won ... they never expected Duterte to win since they were supposedly THE "king makers" ... their arrogance during Pnoys tenure cost them the franchise renewal during his tenure ... so they moved heaven and earth to make sure Mar would win ... but he didn't ...
    FALSE ASSUMPTION.

    the president was a kapamilya vip for 17 years. his sunday morning tv talk show "gikan sa masa" (from the masses in english) was aired on tv and simultaneously broadcasted on their am radio regional network for almost 2 decades. and due to that, his popularity amplified via sound bites that were re-shown on youtube and fb w/ much flavor and fanfare. not to mention that his pronouncements were quoted ad infinitum by local and national newspapers for practically a vicennial.

    to say that abs-cbn wasn't part of the then slick duterte campaign machinery is just being plain obtuse.

    and as every big business operates here and abroad, it would be terribly naive to believe that a big chunk of multi million corporations worth its salt do not provide - for the lack of a better word - sustenance to the campaign potty of every viable candidate. the 2016 presidential election was no different.
    Last edited by baludoy; July 21st, 2020 at 11:38 AM.

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    If I've learned anything about politics, it's that you can't trust people all the time, but you can trust the direction of money all the time. Question we should be asking is, who stands to benefit from the closure/sale? Therein lies the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    But GMA 7 did not do what they did ... i.e., NOT show the ad that was paid for THEN refuse to return the money ...
    abs-cbn actually SUCCESSFULLY refunded the amount of php 4 million ++ advertising moolah to the duterte group.

    the remaining balance of unaired ad money, amounting to php 2.6 million, was then rejected by the presidential camp (for reasons only known to themselves) saying it would be best to just donate the sum to an entity of charity instead.
    Last edited by baludoy; July 21st, 2020 at 11:39 AM.

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    #1751
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post

    and as every big business operates here and abroad, it would be terribly naive to believe that a big chunk of multi million corporations worth its salt do not provide - for the lack of a better word - sustenance to the campaign potty of every viable candidate. the 2016 presidential election was no different.
    i am reminded of a local politician here.
    "bat po kayo tumakbo?"
    "alam mo, boy... tuwing halalan na lang, naka-pila yang mga kandidato sa pintuan ko, humihingi ng $uporta. eh, para hindi na sila humingi pa, dinesisyunan kong tumakbo na rin. sa totoo lang, naka-menos gastos na ako, nanalo pa!"
    OT.

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    #1752
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    abs-cbn actually SUCCESSFULLY refunded the amount of php 4 million ++ advertising moolah to the duterte group.

    the remaining balance of unaired ad money, amounting to php 2.6 million, was then rejected by the presidential camp (for reasons only known to themselves) saying it would be best to just donate the sum to an entity of charity instead.
    did they return the money nung sinisita na sila or even before then?

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    ^ from what i understand, ang na-delay sa pag complete turn over ng refund ay iyong remaining php 2.6m na hindi na tinanggap ni presidente. probably iyon ang mitsa talaga.

    but who knows how the mind of his excellency really grinds. sometimes there's no telling how his spontaneity ebbs and flows.

    ika ng ng wag po crew, there may have been back channel talks between the 2 parties, but there were too many cooks in the kitchen kaya eventually hindi nag work out.

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    #1754
    my take --

    sino hindi sasama ang loob

    nag bayad ka sa TV station para sa campaign ad tapos hindi nila ni-air

    it's more than the money eh

    ang dating kasi nun di nila ni-air para di manalo ung candidate (too bad for ABS nanalo ung candidate)

    so ano sense nung pag soli ng pera?

    ung value ng ad mas malaki kesa doon sa amount

    it could have made the difference between winning and losing

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    so what is 2.6 million now to a candidate who already won?

    f u diba?

    sayo na ung pera

    kahit 26 million isoli mo f u parin

    you're gonna pay dearly for trying to make me lose the election

    pananaw ko lang

    peace

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    #1756
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    my take --

    sino hindi sasama ang loob

    nag bayad ka sa TV station para sa campaign ad tapos hindi nila ni-air

    it's more than the money eh

    ang dating kasi nun di nila ni-air para di manalo ung candidate (too bad for ABS nanalo ung candidate)

    so ano sense nung pag soli ng pera?

    ung value ng ad mas malaki kesa doon sa amount

    it could have made the difference between winning and losing
    Na explain na yan. Yun ad agency ang makulit na magbayad pa rin kahit sinabi na wala ng slot.

    Siyempre iba ang report nila sa principal nila na nag placed sila nag ad at nagbayad na pero hinde nila sinasabi na wala ng slot pero nagbayad pa rin sila. Ito naman candidate antayin yun commercial niya.

    Ang pagka report siguro sa matanda kinuha pera natin tapos hinde pinalabas malaki iba nun sa magbayad pa rin kami kahit walang airtime dahil baka mag open up at mauna kami sa pila.


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    Last edited by shadow; July 21st, 2020 at 05:45 PM.

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    #1757
    so hindi sadya ng ABS to not air the ad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Na explain na yan. Yun ad agency ang makulit na magbayad pa rin kahit sinabi na wala ng slot.

    Siyempre iba ang report nila sa principal nila na nag placed sila nag ad at nagbayad na pero hinde nila sinasabi na wala ng slot pero nagbayad pa rin sila. Ito naman candidate antayin yun commercial niya.

    Ang pagka report siguro sa matanda kinuha pera natin tapos hinde pinalabas malaki iba nun sa magbayad pa rin kami kahit walang airtime dahil baka mag open up at mauna kami sa pila.


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    ang dating kay matanda sinadya ng ABS hindi air ung ad

    ang dating nun ayaw nila dagdagan ng chance manalo si matanda

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    so ngayon nanalo si matanda useless sa kanya ung isina-sauling 2.6M

    barya nalang yan

    hamak na mas malaki sa 2.6M ang kasalanan ng ABS
    Last edited by uls; July 21st, 2020 at 05:51 PM.

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    #1759
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    so hindi sadya ng ABS to not air the ad?
    Nope. Wala na talagang slot in fact hinde lang yun vindictive old man ang hinde na air yun commercial. Maraming candidates both from admin and oppositions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang dating kay matanda sinadya ng ABS hindi air ung ad

    ang dating nun ayaw nila dagdagan ng chance manalo si matanda

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    so ngayon nanalo si matanda useless sa kanya ung isina-sauling 2.6M

    barya nalang yan
    Kaya lagi niya sinabi magnanakaw daw abs cbn dahil ninakaw pera niya but siyempre either hinde pinaliwanag sa kanya kung ano nangyari baka naman kasi meron Commission din yun agency pag place ang ads kaya either way bayad sila.

    Common sense lsng naman limited ang slots sa isang show eh lahat na aagawan sa primwtime ilan lang naman yun.


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