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[Ry_Tower]

Re: Rape

Sabi ng lawyer friend ko madalang daw madismiss sa fiscals office ang rape.

Sinasampa daw straight sa court.

Kasi nga usually sa rape case eh yung rapist (accused) at yung na-rape lang. Kaya binibigyan ng benefit of the doubt yung babae kasi sino ba naman daw magpapakahiya.

The "Maria Clara Doctrine" is a presumption "that women, especially Filipinos, would not admit that they have been abused unless that abuse had actually happened."

[_Cathy_]

Kasi nga usually sa rape case eh yung rapist (accused) at yung na-rape lang. Kaya binibigyan ng benefit of the doubt yung babae kasi sino ba naman daw magpapakahiya.

The "Maria Clara Doctrine" is a presumption "that women, especially Filipinos, would not admit that they have been abused unless that abuse had actually happened."

I find that so unfair. Women are capable of lying. What's so dangerous are women that know that when a woman cries abuse that it's taken as the truth agad so they use it against men. Case in point Amber Heard.

Yung VAWC isa pa yan I find so unfair, I was talking to my lawyer friend about it nga and we are in agreement that it's Anti men hehe

I PERSONALLY know someone that lied about being abused, I was the ONLY person that did not believe her but my family did. In the end, the truth came out and she admitted to lying about it. She was clinically diagnosed as a sociopath BTW. I'm a woman but I don't automatically take the side of other women. I don't know if it's because I was raised by a good man (my Dad) kaya hindi automatic sakin na lalaki parati ang at fault.

Re Deniece, somehow I don't believe that she was raped. Isn't she a starlet na ang circle e dubious people (Cedric Lee)? Feeling ko halang kaluluwa ng mga tao na nasa ganyan circle

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yung sa nangyari kay kat alano eh parang yan ang kaparushan ni vhong kaya butinga sa kanya eengot-engot sya and again ang pangit nya ang kapal ng mukha.

[Ry_Tower]

ganito kasi yan tsikoteers = ito ay kaso ng nayurakan ang pride or pagisisnungaling.

ito si streetboyz vhong navarro kung alam nya may bf yung denise dapat hinid pinatulan kasi nakakalalake yun.

pero kung nagsinungaling yung denise na wala sya bf eh wala kasalanan si streetboyz.

yung cedric ayun ang masaklap kasi may pera ka na natorotot ka pa at pangit pa nung vhong my gawd!!!! Ano nagustuhan ni denise jan!!!!

Yan ang dahilan kaya nasa korte sila ngayon. Para lumabas ang ebidensiya. Mukha namang walang malakas na kapit itong si Vhong, mahahatulan yan kung totoo ang paratang.

Laking problema kasi nila eh ang dami nila, tapos set-up na set-up yung nangyari. Then may round 2 nga gaya sabi ni Qwerty, sino ba magyaya ulit sa nangrape sa iyp or kahit na sabihing papayag ka na dumalaw ulit? Ano yan, lokohan, may amnesia, nasarapan? Tapos happy-happy si Deniece at Cedric sa elevator after everything (no rape victim was ever happy after the crime, unless insane). Binugbog pa at pinaamin sa Police station na walang abogado (hindi magagamit yun sa kaso sigurado ako). Add that all up and you have a strong case against rape. That does not mean there was no rape the first time and the 2nd time was just to caught him in the act. Kaya yung isang affidavit nila ganun ang kuwento. But that would be a very very hard sell sa court imho.

Tandaan, convicted ng grave coercion si Cedri Lee et al,. Tapos lately convicteed pa ng aSandiganbayan si Cedric Lee. Not a good witness in any hearing if you ask me. hehe, madali ma-impeach as being not a credible witness. Malversation is a crime involving moral turpitude. 2007 case yun, 2014 yun kay Vhong-Deniece, any lawyer worth his salt will use that lalo na at denied na yung MR ni Cedric.

Kung binugbog lang nila yan at sinabi na sisiraan kapag nagsumbong, baka wala pa ginawa si Vhong. Mapapahiya siya eh. Kaso gumawa pa kuwento eh, pinapakulong pa. Less serious physical injury lang sana kaso vs public humiliation and family ridicule plus possible financial losses kasi masuspend si Vhong. Sigurado kahit kayo pipiliin niyo na less serious physical injury.

Eh nagdrama, ayun, naiba ihip ng hangin. Alam niyo naman Pinoy mentality na kapag lalaki, given nang nagloloko. Akala ko ba kags behaviorist ka, eh bakit hindi mo naabot na kaya mas marami ang kumakampi kay Vhong is alam ng karamihan ng lalaking pilipino na hindi tinatalikuran ang bigas ng isang manok. Alam man ni Vhong or hindi na may dyowa si Deniece, nasa babae pa rin yan kung matutuloy ang pagnanasa.

Ngayon mas magiging wais tuloy si Vhong, papano pa mahahabol yan sa ibang supposed rape na ginawa niya. Nakaganti na sana kahit papaano, kaso bulilyaso nangyari.

[Ry_Tower]

I find that so unfair. Women are capable of lying. What's so dangerous are women that know that when a woman cries abuse that it's taken as the truth agad so they use it against men. Case in point Amber Heard.

Yung VAWC isa pa yan I find so unfair, I was talking to my lawyer friend about it nga and we are in agreement that it's Anti men hehe

I PERSONALLY know someone that lied about being abused, I was the ONLY person that did not believe her but my family did. In the end, the truth came out and she admitted to lying about it. She was clinically diagnosed as a sociopath BTW. I'm a woman but I don't automatically take the side of other women. I don't know if it's because I was raised by a good man (my Dad) kaya hindi automatic sakin na lalaki parati ang at fault.

Re Deniece, somehow I don't believe that she was raped. Isn't she a starlet na ang circle e dubious people (Cedric Lee)? Feeling ko halang kaluluwa ng mga tao na nasa ganyan circle

Maria Clara doctrine has been abandoned naman in the actual case, pero my reaction is to the fact na kaya hindi nadidismiss yang mga ganyang case sa level ng fiscal. Kasi usually eh dalawa lang silang eye witness. Kasi kung meron pa ibang eye witness for the rape victim, no bail yan. Kaya kapag nakapag-bail, usually alam mo na dahil sa wala naman ibang eye witness.

Same sa AVAWC Law, medyo hassle talaga pero lesson is huwag mangharass ng ex or manakit ng kapwa. Basic naman kasi kaya ganun. Pero hindi unfair yan imho. Kasi sa AVWC need ng 2 battering cycle eh kapag physical violence. So talagang loko-loko lang makukulong dahil dyan. Sa moral damages naman eh dapat pinaasa ka ng husto at sinaktan ng husto or pauli-ulit. Actually yung nakakatakot dyan is yung moral damages due to stress kung niloko nang BF. Pasok sa AVAWC yan kung notorious or flagrant yung pambababae. Kaso wala pang kaso na decided kung ang pag-uusapan lang eh emotional stress na dahil sa chicboi.

[_Qwerty_]

kung mapatunayan na nagsisinungaling lang yang si Deniece, pwede ba sya sampahan nang kaso nang sya naman ang makulong?

[H1Tman]

So EHeads guitarist Markus Adoro is an abuser, according to his partner and his daughter.

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Kahit ipapasok mo na lang pero sinabi ng babae na "stop" at nagbago isip at pinilit mo it's rape.

If there's 4 women that we know of nag file ng rape case against Vhong then gawain talaga na niya yan.


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[_Qwerty_]

Netizens Want Marcus Adoro Removed From The Eheads Concert As His Alleged History Of Abuse Resurfaces

So EHeads guitarist Markus Adoro is an abuser, according to his partner and his daughter.

[_Cathy_]

May twin embryos na pala si Heart kaya she's not in a hurry to have children, she could have the twins anytime or even pay for a surrogate. This is a new revelation, probably to shut people up saying she is infertile or doesn't want to have children. I have friends that went through IVF and it is NOT easy. You really have to WANT a baby to go through that process.

I honestly which I froze my eggs before I turned 35. There are still a lot of conservative and religious people (surprisingly) that are against IVF

Heart Evangelista on major life changes: IVF, house-hunting in Paris, and more • l!fe • The Philippine Star

Heart carried twins in 2018 but lost both of them some time after her pregnancy announcement.

It was “the most traumatizing feeling” for the multihyphenate. “I carried my twins four months after because my doctor wanted me to naturally go through the process. It was the most horrible feeling thinking maybe God can bring them back to me… or me thinking I am not a good person for this to happen,” she said in a social media comment in 2020. “Now me trying after a year or so is my choice but not having a baby as of the moment is God’s choice and I wouldn’t want to question that.”

Fast forward two years, she revealed to L’Officiel that she has undergone in-vitro fertilization, which turned out to be “one of the toughest, challenging times” of her life. Her body did not react well to the medicine she was injected with, making her suffer from its side effects even a few weeks later.

“With IVF, they inject you with fertility hormones. It was very difficult and painful. I had three injections a day over a two-week process. After harvesting and the processes that came after, they were able to gather the perfect boy and the perfect girl,” she told the magazine.

Her eye-opening experiences with her previous pregnancy and IVF procedure sparked a strong epiphany about entering motherhood. “It made me realize, am I ready for a child? So, I actually have a baby boy and a baby girl waiting for me, but I’m really at this stage in my life where (I ask myself), ‘Do I want a child because I want a child?’ or ‘Do I want a child because the environment or culture dictates that I should have a child?’”

Noting she’s not in a state of rebellion, Heart opened up about feeling brand new later on. “I feel that this alone is changing me as a person. I’m standing up for myself. It’s liberating to decide according to what I want and not what other people want. That has changed me dramatically.”

Above everything, the actress believes it’s important for women to have the freedom to choose their paths. “I think having a choice is good and I really suggest that women (pursue this option) because it buys them time. Any time they decide on having a child, the embryo is there. Whether you decide immediately or five years from now, there is no deadline.

[BratPAQ]

May twin embryos na pala si Heart kaya she's not in a hurry to have children, she could have the twins anytime or even pay for a surrogate. This is a new revelation, probably to shut people up saying she is infertile or doesn't want to have children. I have friends that went through IVF and it is NOT easy. You really have to WANT a baby to go through that process.

I honestly which I froze my eggs before I turned 35. There are still a lot of conservative and religious people (surprisingly) that are against IVF

Heart Evangelista on major life changes: IVF, house-hunting in Paris, and more • l!fe • The Philippine Star

Embryo meaning it is fertilized with Chiz's sperm? They skipped narrating that part kasi.

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Embryo meaning it is fertilized with Chiz's sperm? They skipped narrating that part kasi.

Yes. Blastocyst na yan meaning nag hiwalay na mga cells, viable na.


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[_Cathy_]

Embryo meaning it is fertilized with Chiz's sperm? They skipped narrating that part kasi.

yes, pag embryo nagdevelop na yung egg na fertilized ng sperm, ang question ko, anong chance ng success na mabuo yung embryos from IVF?

embryo - conception to 7th week
fetus - eighth week onwards

May friends ako round 1 buo na, may iba YEARS and many rounds bago nabuo, may iba naman that gave up trying na (kasi sabi sakin physically and emotionally ang hirap daw ng IVF, bukod sa gastos pa) Yung mga kilala ko that had jobs, quit for IVF

May two arguments kasi sa IVF, either the babies are strong kasi they were able to select the best egg/sperm combination OR the babies could be weak kasi still it's not naturally conceived.

I browse US forums din and I am shocked na looked down pala ang IVF conception and/or caesarian birth, with normal and natural delivery viewed as more superior. Mga first world ang daming issues LOL.

[kagalingan]

Yan ang dahilan kaya nasa korte sila ngayon. Para lumabas ang ebidensiya. Mukha namang walang malakas na kapit itong si Vhong, mahahatulan yan kung totoo ang paratang.

Laking problema kasi nila eh ang dami nila, tapos set-up na set-up yung nangyari. Then may round 2 nga gaya sabi ni Qwerty, sino ba magyaya ulit sa nangrape sa iyp or kahit na sabihing papayag ka na dumalaw ulit? Ano yan, lokohan, may amnesia, nasarapan? Tapos happy-happy si Deniece at Cedric sa elevator after everything (no rape victim was ever happy after the crime, unless insane). Binugbog pa at pinaamin sa Police station na walang abogado (hindi magagamit yun sa kaso sigurado ako). Add that all up and you have a strong case against rape. That does not mean there was no rape the first time and the 2nd time was just to caught him in the act. Kaya yung isang affidavit nila ganun ang kuwento. But that would be a very very hard sell sa court imho.

Tandaan, convicted ng grave coercion si Cedri Lee et al,. Tapos lately convicteed pa ng aSandiganbayan si Cedric Lee. Not a good witness in any hearing if you ask me. hehe, madali ma-impeach as being not a credible witness. Malversation is a crime involving moral turpitude. 2007 case yun, 2014 yun kay Vhong-Deniece, any lawyer worth his salt will use that lalo na at denied na yung MR ni Cedric.

Kung binugbog lang nila yan at sinabi na sisiraan kapag nagsumbong, baka wala pa ginawa si Vhong. Mapapahiya siya eh. Kaso gumawa pa kuwento eh, pinapakulong pa. Less serious physical injury lang sana kaso vs public humiliation and family ridicule plus possible financial losses kasi masuspend si Vhong. Sigurado kahit kayo pipiliin niyo na less serious physical injury.

Eh nagdrama, ayun, naiba ihip ng hangin. Alam niyo naman Pinoy mentality na kapag lalaki, given nang nagloloko. Akala ko ba kags behaviorist ka, eh bakit hindi mo naabot na kaya mas marami ang kumakampi kay Vhong is alam ng karamihan ng lalaking pilipino na hindi tinatalikuran ang bigas ng isang manok. Alam man ni Vhong or hindi na may dyowa si Deniece, nasa babae pa rin yan kung matutuloy ang pagnanasa.

Ngayon mas magiging wais tuloy si Vhong, papano pa mahahabol yan sa ibang supposed rape na ginawa niya. Nakaganti na sana kahit papaano, kaso bulilyaso nangyari.

attorney masteral,


Im looking at this sa galaw ng universe. Kasi nagulat ako bakit biglang may warrant arrest kay whrong eh sa pagkakaintindi ko eh tapos na itong kaso tapos biglang ngayon marcos administration eh may ganyan. So mukhang malakas si cedric ngayon kaysa nung panahon ni duterte.

tapos dito ko papasok yung mga iba nirape ni whrong. Ito yung pwede maginfluence din sa judge kasi pwede ichismis din kay judge na ito akusado may history din na nangrape.

so you attorney ryry eh you are looking it purely judiciary.

Me kagalingan as a whole. Whether kung ano gawin basta mabigyan ng hustisya mga nauna na-rape.

[_Qwerty_]

again.. sabi lang nya yun na ni rape sya.. bakit di sya nagdemanda? kung di napatunayan.. hearsay lang yan..

attorney masteral,


Im looking at this sa galaw ng universe. Kasi nagulat ako bakit biglang may warrant arrest kay whrong eh sa pagkakaintindi ko eh tapos na itong kaso tapos biglang ngayon marcos administration eh may ganyan. So mukhang malakas si cedric ngayon kaysa nung panahon ni duterte.

tapos dito ko papasok yung mga iba nirape ni whrong. Ito yung pwede maginfluence din sa judge kasi pwede ichismis din kay judge na ito akusado may history din na nangrape.

so you attorney ryry eh you are looking it purely judiciary.

Me kagalingan as a whole. Whether kung ano gawin basta mabigyan ng hustisya mga nauna na-rape.

[dr. d]

attorney masteral,


Im looking at this sa galaw ng universe.

bakit ang gulo nang galaw nang universe ni kagalingan?
heh heh.

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bakit ang gulo nang galaw nang universe ni kagalingan?
heh heh.

Metaverse kasi anything goes...puro virtual walang katotohanan.


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[H1Tman]

attorney masteral,


Im looking at this sa galaw ng universe. Kasi nagulat ako bakit biglang may warrant arrest kay whrong eh sa pagkakaintindi ko eh tapos na itong kaso tapos biglang ngayon marcos administration eh may ganyan. So mukhang malakas si cedric ngayon kaysa nung panahon ni duterte.

tapos dito ko papasok yung mga iba nirape ni whrong. Ito yung pwede maginfluence din sa judge kasi pwede ichismis din kay judge na ito akusado may history din na nangrape.

so you attorney ryry eh you are looking it purely judiciary.

Me kagalingan as a whole. Whether kung ano gawin basta mabigyan ng hustisya mga nauna na-rape.

Papaano sila makakakuha ng hustisya kung hindi sila nagfile ng reklamo?

[Ry_Tower]

^Wala eh, hindi na inabot ng kagalingan.

attorney masteral,


Im looking at this sa galaw ng universe. Kasi nagulat ako bakit biglang may warrant arrest kay whrong eh sa pagkakaintindi ko eh tapos na itong kaso tapos biglang ngayon marcos administration eh may ganyan. So mukhang malakas si cedric ngayon kaysa nung panahon ni duterte.

tapos dito ko papasok yung mga iba nirape ni whrong. Ito yung pwede maginfluence din sa judge kasi pwede ichismis din kay judge na ito akusado may history din na nangrape.

so you attorney ryry eh you are looking it purely judiciary.

Me kagalingan as a whole. Whether kung ano gawin basta mabigyan ng hustisya mga nauna na-rape.

Malaks si Cedric? Hindi mo ata nagets na isang talent ni ABS si Vhong, lumabas lang ulit yan because of the ABS-TV5 deal, napurnada diba. Isa yan sa casualty, yung galit ni PDuts, tumatagos pa.

Common sense at kunting legal concepts yan, hindi gaya ng metaverse mo, kathang esep.

Kags as-a-whole talaga.

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