RPTV pros & cons?

[shadow]

ang daming sales ngayon for RPTV 43" and up ano ba ang pros and cons nito? compared to CRT tv?

[number001]

Honestly, not much but a bigger viewing landscape. The 43" being sold are mostly in pan & scan 4:3 aspect ratio which is not ideal especially if you have lots of dvds which are all best viewed on an anamorphic widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio TV. Depends on one's viewing needs, 4:3 is ideal for regular TV programs and 16:9 is more ideal for widescreen content (like DVDs and HDTV). Both aspect ratios can be used with regular TV programs and widescreen contents.

CRT is still best in terms of screen quality because of its better contrast and blacks. RPTV need to be calibrated properly to attain good results and it is quite sensitive to background light (picture may appear washed out in a brightly lit room).

Well, I started a similar thread in another board. So that there's not too much redundancy in information around.

Visit it here

[oldblue]

good quality lang naman RPTV kapag naka-dvd ka, but regular cable d maganda.

[voltes_V]

good quality lang naman RPTV kapag naka-dvd ka, but regular cable d maganda.

Yup maganda lang ang RPTV kung HD ready na siya at may HD digital terminal ka. Here abroad may mga ibang stations na nagbobroadcast in HD especially yung mga sports channel. All you need is good quality cables para mapanood mo siya ng malinaw pero its still much better to have a HD digital terminal. Kung ordinary cables lang gamit mo, generally the bigger your RPtv is, the more distorted the screen becomes when viewing ordinary tv channels. So most of the time youll be using your dvd player on your RPTV.
CRT's have good picture quality up to a certain screen size but flat panel LCDs are way better. Yung mga DLP and LCD based RPTVs naman are only good talaga if your viewing in HD or using a dvd player which sometimes can compete with plasmas.

I recently bought 2 flat panel LCDs where im only using ordinary cables. Compared to my sony wega CRT, mas malinaw pa rin ang LCD. Yung DLP RPTV ko naman ay ginagamitan ko ng HD terminal and has the best picture quality among the three when using HD format. The problem is not all stations are in HD kaya minsan mas maganda yung mga smaller televisions ko.

Ang hindi ko alam is if we are also using HD in the philippines or kung may mga high def terminals tayo diyan. Sayang kasi kung HD ready na mga tvs pero wala namang HD broadcasts sa atin. Nagmumuni-muni lang po.

[chieffy]

wala pa akong experience regarding RPTV's but i would go for Samsung DLP RPTV's if i were to buy one ;)

[kimpOy]

well may lifespan din ang RPTV...unang mag conk out diyan is the convergence board...which is pricey 25K or its IC 9K (toshiba brand, yan ang problem ko ngayon)

hindi rin advisable may games sa RPTV nagkakaroon ng burn out sa screeen

and dapat nasa sweetspot ka pare ma appreciated mo ang pinapanood mo

pero kapag nasa well dim room ka sarap manood ng dvd na may kasama pop corn.

[Monseratto]

Advantage ng RPTV over other type of TV is its price/inch. Its cheap, but its bulky, have a lifespan of 10-12 years before the tubes start to fail, and it require constant focussing (alignment). Your viewing angle is much narrower. CRTs are limited by their size (36"), is slowly being phased out (try looking for one in Singapore or Hong Kong) because its very toxic (Lead) to make one and dispose of. LCDs have a lag problem and the blacks and grey are mixed up. Also size is a problem, direct-view LCDs are only up to 36" so far.

[oldblue]

I think local cable companies are trying to improve the video quality signal of cable TV. first time we used our RPTV last 2k3, ampangit talaga manood sa cable, even HBO, Cinemax na medyo improved ang cable-cast compared to other channels - para ka din na stretched-out VCD. But lately, gumaganda na sya. somewhere between VCD & DVD na ang quality.

can cable companies convert to HDTV without replacing the Coax Cables?

[oldblue]

I recently bought 2 flat panel LCDs where im only using ordinary cables. Compared to my sony wega CRT, mas malinaw pa rin ang LCD. Yung DLP RPTV ko naman ay ginagamitan ko ng HD terminal and has the best picture quality among the three when using HD format

*voltes V, are you in the US? if you are, kakaiingit sa inyo dyan coz the price of LCDTV is less than 60k. dito, ang mahal ng LCDTV, 20" would cost 80+ K and d pa masyado kilala brand like Syntax or Colin.

My dream PC Monitor is a widescreen LCDTV "32 with DVi running on a PCI-Express Vidcard. Napakasarap siguro mag-internet nito and also playing games like HL2, Battlefied 2, & San Andreas and others ... all-in-one, may TV, DVD viewing and hi-res monitor ka pa!

[voltes_V]

*voltes V, are you in the US? if you are, kakaiingit sa inyo dyan coz the price of LCDTV is less than 60k. dito, ang mahal ng LCDTV, 20" would cost 80+ K and d pa masyado kilala brand like Syntax or Colin.

My dream PC Monitor is a widescreen LCDTV "32 with DVi running on a PCI-Express Vidcard. Napakasarap siguro mag-internet nito and also playing games like HL2, Battlefied 2, & San Andreas and others ... all-in-one, may TV, DVD viewing and hi-res monitor ka pa!

Sa Canada po ako sir. Yes your right, its cheaper here abraod. My panasonic 20 inch LCD was priced * around 55K pesos and my 60 incher DLP was around 200K pesos but still is cheap considering the prices we have back home. Yung 27" LCD na Kosch ko naman( D kilalang brand) for my gym/bedroom mura din,mga 45K pesos lng. The toshiba brands naman are only half the price of the panasonic but still has very good picture detail.
The panasonic TV sets here really have very good features. My DLP for example has PC Display capability plus photo viewer PCMIA and SD card slots which I find very cool to have. I've heard that sony also has this but added these features only recently. The panny and sony prices naman have almost the same price range.

[shadow]

ano naman yun DLP? hay ayaw ko na yan RPTV meron pa rin palang maintenace..I think I'll og with the samsung CRT slim type 32" widescreen... napagisip lang kasi ako dahil same price lang sila ng RPTV ng sony, LG and philips which is 42" naman... I'll buy this weekend na. guys kung meron kayong experince dito sa samsung paki post before weekend..thanks

so I think in the long run mas ok siguro para in ang meron picture tube..




features:
1080i HD Ready Natural Scan 100hz
DNIe (Digital Natural Image engine)
Nano Pigment Technology
Virtual Dolby Surround
20 Watts Sound Output
2 Tuner Multi PIP, Double Window
Offers True Compatibility with Progressive Scan DVD Players
2 HD/DVD Component Video Inputs (Auto Sensing)

[voltes_V]

ano naman yun DLP?

DLP's have one chip with light reflected off it that passes through the color wheel to generate a picture. The chip works in synch with the primary colors on the wheel and actually creates 3 seperate images per frame, one for each color. It does it fast enough that the set tricks the average human brain and we see the 3 images as one frame. This is what causes the rainbow effect, some people can process the seperate images fast enough to pick the colors apart. The color wheel doesn't replace the need for LCD chips.

People take DLP's over LCD's because they have better contrast ratios and can reproduce black levels better, the downside is a small percentage of people see rainbows on them and can't use them.

[chua_riwap]

Have you seen Sony's latest RPTV (3LCD tech)? It comes with 60, 50, and 42 inch wide screen models. They're all over SM, Automatic and Anson's appliance centers. This is much better than the other RPTV models. Brightness, contrast, and color is much improved and is HDTV ready also.

Prices are not cheap though. 50" is almost P289K and the 42" model is P200K.

[Monseratto]

Have you seen Sony's latest RPTV (3LCD tech)? It comes with 60, 50, and 42 inch wide screen models. They're all over SM, Automatic and Anson's appliance centers. This is much better than the other RPTV models. Brightness, contrast, and color is much improved and is HDTV ready also.

Prices are not cheap though. 50" is almost P289K and the 42" model is P200K.

A HDTV should have either DVI or HDMI inputs. These are the input of choice for the upcoming Blu-ray DVD and HD-DVD for the upscaling features. I think the Sony TVs here in RP don't have these feature.

[the josh]

A HDTV should have either DVI or HDMI inputs. These are the input of choice for the upcoming Blu-ray DVD and HD-DVD for the upscaling features. I think the Sony TVs here in RP don't have these feature.

Sony's new grand wega doesn't have an HDMI/DVI input because it,s WEGA engine does the HD upscaling, this is according to sony. I have the 50 in. one and the picture is really jaw-dropping! It has 5-stars on all it's reviews on all the NZ home theatre magazines and is highly recommended. The only drawback is the blacks, DLP still has better blacks but the sony GW makes up for it with stunningly clear pictures, better or at par with the latest plasmas out there.. I did a lot of research and side by side comparisons (loewe, toshiba, samsung) mostly DLPs, the blacks are good but I was seeing the "rainbow effect" on all of them and it's really annoying, plus DLPs have a spinning wheel inside while LCD does'nt have one, so less moving parts the better IMO. Although the DLPs were cheaper than the sony, sony has 8000 hour lamplife which is really better than their old models. Bottomline is, my eyes did the judging and I went for the Sony, upto now I still can't believe how sharp and clear it is! Highly recommended!

[Monseratto]

Sony's new grand wega doesn't have an HDMI/DVI input because it,s WEGA engine does the HD upscaling, this is according to sony. I have the 50 in. one and the picture is really jaw-dropping! It has 5-stars on all it's reviews on all the NZ home theatre magazines and is highly recommended. The only drawback is the blacks, DLP still has better blacks but the sony GW makes up for it with stunningly clear pictures, better or at par with the latest plasmas out there.. I did a lot of research and side by side comparisons (loewe, toshiba, samsung) mostly DLPs, the blacks are good but I was seeing the "rainbow effect" on all of them and it's really annoying, plus DLPs have a spinning wheel inside while LCD does'nt have one, so less moving parts the better IMO. Although the DLPs were cheaper than the sony, sony has 8000 hour lamplife which is really better than their old models. Bottomline is, my eyes did the judging and I went for the Sony, upto now I still can't believe how sharp and clear it is! Highly recommended!

It is quite strange for Sony to omit such a feature. THeir models in US market have this input. The HDMI or DVI input is becoming a standard even in computer monitors. Even the Syntax LCD and Kolin Plasma have this input.

[Monseratto]

Sony's new grand wega doesn't have an HDMI/DVI input because it,s WEGA engine does the HD upscaling, this is according to sony. I have the 50 in. one and the picture is really jaw-dropping! It has 5-stars on all it's reviews on all the NZ home theatre magazines and is highly recommended. The only drawback is the blacks, DLP still has better blacks but the sony GW makes up for it with stunningly clear pictures, better or at par with the latest plasmas out there.. I did a lot of research and side by side comparisons (loewe, toshiba, samsung) mostly DLPs, the blacks are good but I was seeing the "rainbow effect" on all of them and it's really annoying, plus DLPs have a spinning wheel inside while LCD does'nt have one, so less moving parts the better IMO. Although the DLPs were cheaper than the sony, sony has 8000 hour lamplife which is really better than their old models. Bottomline is, my eyes did the judging and I went for the Sony, upto now I still can't believe how sharp and clear it is! Highly recommended!

The latest LCD by Sony is the direct-view Bravia XBR in the States and it has all the bells and whistles you can find in a HDTV. Here are the list of inputs:


• Audio In: 6 (1 Front/5 Rear)

• Audio Out (Variable/Fixed): 1 (Rear)

• CableCARD™ Slot: 1 (Rear)

• Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr ) Input(s): 3 (1 Front/2 Rear) 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i

• Composite Video Input(s): 3 (1 Front/2 Rear)

• Digital Audio Output(s): Dolby® Digital Optical Output - 1 (Rear)

• HDMI1 Connection Input(s): 1 (Rear) with Analog Audio

• RF Connection Input(s): 2 (Rear)

• S-Video Input(s): 1 (Rear)

• Headphone Output(s): 1 (Front)

• PC Audio Input(s): 1 (Rear)

• PC Video Input(s): 1 (Rear)

• USB Port(s): 1 (Front) - Digital Camera Port USB 2.0 High Speed

[mazdamazda]

shadow, we have a 57" RPTV for a few years already. la naman maintenance & sira (except when the household help unplugged it from the 110V transformer & plugged it to the 220V outlet). that costed us around P5-7K in damages.

dapat lang nga medyo dim yung room (with heavy curtains) to maximize your RPTV. watching local channels - medyo bearable naman. pero once you pop-in a VCD or DVD... SULIT!!!

not as crisp when as CRT but when watching back from 10 feet sobrang ganda!

[orly_andico]

this is my big puzzle...

you can get the toshiba 43" 4:3 RPTV for 70k, +5k gets you a 5.1 speaker and DVD player
the LG 42" 16:9 format is 75k, with no freebies
the sony 43" 4:3 is 80k, with no freebies
the samsung 42" 4:3 is 80k, but is bundled with a 21" CRT TV (an ordinary one)

(all are the prices at the ongoing BPI 0% installment scheme at glorietta)

all of them are 1080i ready. question is, saan ka maghahanap ng 1080i na signal? mukhang wala naman silang HDMI or DVI input!!

[orly_andico]

another thing i noticed is... with the common CRT TV's when you get close there is pixelation (due to the invar shadow mask i believe) but with the RPTV there's no pixelation. just my experience..

if you want a progressive-scan TV, cheapest na yung mga RPTV. the cheapest direct-view (CRT) TV na may progressive-scan is 72k!! and it's only a 29" or 32" model.

i was just pissed off at the sony "techie boy" at glorietta. when i asked him kung merong 1080i yung 43" na wega, sabi niya "merong progressive-scan ito, 480p, and that's better than 1080i" like duh! of course progressive/non-interlaced is better than interlaced, but AT THE SAME RESOLUTION. there's no comparing 1080i with 480p!!

of course this may all be moot since wala namang 1080i signal right now, at least until lumabas ang blu-ray / HD-DVD.