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    #441
    Quote Originally Posted by caloyski5
    down yung forum namin e (protegetech.org) pero afair, mas maganda fuel consumption ng 2.0 kaysa 1.6
    +1...

    7-8 km lang ako city driving sa 1.6 V 6-7km/ltr pa nga dati kaya i shifted to another brand of engine oil...

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    #442
    we get around 8-9 km/liter on city driving (using only the a/t mode) for the 1.6 (4 days of morning and evening rush hour traffic in makati). mileage improved when we're past the 5k km and switched to castrol semi synthetic oil.

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    #443
    Quote Originally Posted by parakitoJDM
    tutuo ba 'to? whereas my '95 ESi with a 1.6li engine could only provide high 9km/li (combined City & Hiway). that sounds really good for a 2li engine.
    yup, here are my latest figures

    city
    8.516
    8.117
    8.663

    lowest i got hellish traffic
    7.606

    mixed city hway (each one run to tagaytay) city all the rest
    10.060
    9.784

    the 2li really isnt that bad but then again i dont have a heavy foot

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    #444
    hindi nakakaenjoy i drive ang mazda 3 pag tipid sobra grabe di ko na kayanan hinataw ko kanina mz3 ko wag na tipid sa gas hahaha

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    #445
    guys what fuel are you using for your 2.0li? im using petron blaze getting only 6 to 7 km/li

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    #446
    Mazda 3 on the cover of Consumer Reports September 2006 Issue
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    They compared the Mazda3 hatch, Audi A3 hatch, Saab 9-2X hatch, Dodge Caliber
    They tested a Grand Touring model with 5 speed transmission.

    Excerpts from the article:

    "Hatchbacks> The Mazda3 Leads The Field of Four Versatile Alternatives To A Small SUV"

    "The Mazda3 achieved the top rating of any hatchback that we've tested in this class"

    "Highs: Nimble Handling, engine and transmission, braking
    Lows: Road Noise, Instrument contrast"

    "Braking distances are impressively short, with firm pedal feel"


    Overall Ratings of hatchbacks

    1. Mazda3 ...........................79
    2. Audi A3...........................76
    3. Toyota Prius.....................68
    4. Toyota Matrix XR(AWD).....67
    5. Pontiac Vibe base (FWD)....66
    6. Ford Focus ZX5-S..............65
    7. Chevrolet Malibu Maxx........65
    8. Saab 9-2X 2.5i..................61
    9. Chrysler PT Cruiser turbo....61
    10. Chevrolet HHR LT 2.4......55
    11. Dodge Caliber R/T(AWD)..51
    12. Scion XB........................50
    13. Dodge Caliber SXT(FWD)..49

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    #447
    Honda Jazz hits right note in reliability stakes
    Thu Aug 3, 2006 7:31 AM BST
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    LONDON (Reuters) - The Honda Jazz was rated Britain's most reliable new car by Which? consumer magazine on Thursday with Ford's Focus C-Max languishing in last place.

    Which? said the Honda Jazz did not suffer a single breakdown and only a few minor faults and niggles out of 406 models sampled, accruing a score of 95 percent.

    The survey on 32,550 cars found that small, cheap cars were more reliable than expensive models -- not a single luxury car managed a "good" rating for reliability turning the adage "you get what you pay for" on its head.

    "Good news for consumers -- some cheaper cars are very reliable. Several expensive models need to up their game to compete. And several franchised dealers who repair 'prestige' cars need to raise their standards too," said Which? editor Neil Fowler in a statement.



    Seven cars were in equal second place on 92 percent -- Honda's Accord and CR-V models, the Mazda 3, Renault Clio, Toyota Corolla, Vauxhall Corsa and Subaru Forester.

    Other cars which rated poorly for reliability were the Jaguar X-type, Nissan Primera, Renault Megane and Renault Scenic.

    The magazine also looked at owners' satisfaction with servicing and repairs and found unsurprisingly that those brands that performed well for model reliability also scored highly for customer satisfaction.

    Lexus topped the pile with 78 percent of owners saying they were very satisified with servicing and repairs with Porsche on 73 percent and Honda on 70 percent.

    But, several prestige brands fared less well. Alfa Romeo was joint bottom with Chrysler on 31 percent and Mercedes Benz scored only 45 percent.

    The reliability scores were a blend of breakdowns, faults and niggles recorded over a 12-month period on cars up to two years old.

    On average, 5 percent of all new cars broke down in the last year, 27 percent had faults -- meaning something had to be replaced like a heater fan-- and 19 percent had niggles like squeaky cabin trim.

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    #448
    Strange that the C-Max should be in last place, considering it shares so much with the Mazda3.

    But then again, corporate ideology and practice can make two products based on the same ingredients very different indeed.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #449
    Check out Motor Trend too this month... Conclusion of the Long Term Test on the 3.

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    #450
    just wond'rin: is there a chance that Mazda would put MX5's 2.0L engine in the Mazda3? its 170hp, even if they price it at, say, 1.1M; it still has a fighting chance over the Civic 2.0SL.

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    #451
    It's a rear wheel drive engine...

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    #452
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravoexo
    It's a rear wheel drive engine...
    a FWD 323 Familia has an early RWD Miata MX5's (89-90s) 1.6L engine...isnt it?

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    #453
    It's the same engine family. Unlike the 323/Lynx), which shared only the 1.6 engine architecture with the Miata (the 1.8 and 2.0 were the front-wheel drive FS series only, while the Miata's 1.8 was based on the 1.6)... the new Miata, Mazda3 and Mazda6 all share the same basic MZR/Duratec blocks. Thus, the same 2.0/2.3 serves in the Mazda3, Mazda6, Miata and the new Caterham "Super Seven" type cars.

    The difference in power, however, is due to a freer flowing exhaust and differences in tuning afforded by the FR layout, and can't be readily ported to the Mazda3 version.

    But a port of the revised heads and ECU in the 200hp Caterham version would be nice...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #454
    Quote Originally Posted by basti08
    just wond'rin: is there a chance that Mazda would put MX5's 2.0L engine in the Mazda3? its 170hp, even if they price it at, say, 1.1M; it still has a fighting chance over the Civic 2.0SL.
    eto rin dream ko matagal na. i'm sure its entirely possible. but i think Mazda is reserving the higher power version to their halo car "MX-5" aka Miati. so i think it doesn't have anything to do with the drivetrain layout at all.

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    #455
    Mazda just launched the Mazda3 MPS in AU. Its got the same 190kw, 380Nm 2.3L turbo-charged engine as in the Mazda6 MPS. Though it is not AWD like the 6, it does have a LSD. With a theoritical 250kph and a claimed 10L/100km consumption, this is one hot hatch indeed.

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    #456


    in here...



    hmm...

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    #457
    And it can probably hit that 10 km/l very easily. US owners of the turbo 2.3 AWD MSP6 say they're getting 24-30 mpg, which equals a combined 12 km/l, which would probably translate to 8-10 km/l in Philippine urban settings.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #458
    Quote Originally Posted by parakitoJDM View Post
    Mazda 3 on the cover of Consumer Reports September 2006 Issue
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    They compared the Mazda3 hatch, Audi A3 hatch, Saab 9-2X hatch, Dodge Caliber
    They tested a Grand Touring model with 5 speed transmission.

    Excerpts from the article:

    "Hatchbacks> The Mazda3 Leads The Field of Four Versatile Alternatives To A Small SUV"

    "The Mazda3 achieved the top rating of any hatchback that we've tested in this class"

    "Highs: Nimble Handling, engine and transmission, braking
    Lows: Road Noise, Instrument contrast"

    "Braking distances are impressively short, with firm pedal feel"


    Overall Ratings of hatchbacks

    1. Mazda3 ...........................79
    2. Audi A3...........................76
    3. Toyota Prius.....................68
    4. Toyota Matrix XR(AWD).....67
    5. Pontiac Vibe base (FWD)....66
    6. Ford Focus ZX5-S..............65
    7. Chevrolet Malibu Maxx........65
    8. Saab 9-2X 2.5i..................61
    9. Chrysler PT Cruiser turbo....61
    10. Chevrolet HHR LT 2.4......55
    11. Dodge Caliber R/T(AWD)..51
    12. Scion XB........................50
    13. Dodge Caliber SXT(FWD)..49
    which hatch did they use?
    most of the "good" reviews for the mazda3 hatch were off the 2.3L version which we never got here.

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    #459
    Quote Originally Posted by M View Post
    which hatch did they use?
    most of the "good" reviews for the mazda3 hatch were off the 2.3L version which we never got here.
    you are absolutely correct. USDM hatch only comes with 2.3l engine and not 2.0 or 1.6

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    #460
    Actually, even with "just" a 2.0 or 1.6, as long as it has a manual transmission, the Mazda3 HB would count as spectacular.

    But since it only comes in "stripped down" 1.6 AT trim here... it's just nice.

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