2017 Mazda CX-5

[diehard]

As for the Subaru Forester, the normally aspirated engine feels under powered. An all new model will be out by 2019 but can't wait that long.

[Egan101]

I was also looking at the Rav4 Active+. It has a roomy interior, great cargo room, strong engine and traditional 6AT. Unfortunately I couldn't get over the cheap interior and lack of safety equipment and interior amenities.

Some say the RAV4’s engine is an unwilling performer. It is not that responsive. I think it is the same engine as the Camry which is also known to offer a boring ride.


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[diehard]

I have an '04 Mazda 3 and we also have a '18 CRV. The CRV is far far more comfortable than the Mazda 3. Also far more spacious for both passengers and cargo.

It handles quite well for a CUV - definitely better than any PPV, but not quite as agile as a CX5 or Forester. The tradeoff for agility is that it's more comfortable and refined over poor roads than the other two CUVs and is exponentially more comfortable than any PPV.

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Any concern with the CVT? I know current Honda and Toyota CVTs have a better reputation than Nissan and Subaru CVTs but I still have doubts about the long term durability of this tech.

[mda]

Some say the RAV4’s engine is an unwilling performer. It is not that responsive. I think it is the same engine as the Camry which is also known to offer a boring ride.

The RAV/Camry's 2AR-FE.. Boring, but not unwilling hehe. Definitely not low on power

[jut703]

Any concern with the CVT? I know current Honda and Toyota CVTs have a better reputation than Nissan and Subaru CVTs but I still have doubts about the long term durability of this tech.

My Civic has 31,000 km with not a single CVT issue. I wouldn't worry about it.

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[diehard]

Some say the RAV4’s engine is an unwilling performer. It is not that responsive. I think it is the same engine as the Camry which is also known to offer a boring ride.


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My personal ride is a Camry 2.5V. I find the power more than adequate. It accelerates with authority and can haul 4 passengers up Tagaytay Midlands on D without a sweat. The 6AT is smooth and the ride is extremely comfortable. Plus it is as reliable as a ref.

[diehard]

I am actually smitten by the VW Golf GTS but my wife insists on a CUV because she likes something compact w high ground clearance. Sorry, off topic na.

[Egan101]

Any concern with the CVT? I know current Honda and Toyota CVTs have a better reputation than Nissan and Subaru CVTs but I still have doubts about the long term durability of this tech.

I drive a Forester XT and I have no issues with its CVT tranny. The Forester SJ platform is almost 6 years old and there are no known issues with its CVT tranny.

The tranny is a bit soft off the line but it is quite smooth. Too smooth that it dampens the sensation of going fast - you feel you are just cruising but you are already doing more than 150 kmh.


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[mda]

I am actually smitten by the VW Golf GTS but my wife insists on a CUV because she likes something compact w high ground clearance. Sorry, off topic na.

If you want something sure to be as reliable as your ref...

CRV and the RAV4 are good places to start.

The CX5 is probably as good pero doesn't have the pedigree... yet.

[Egan101]

The RAV/Camry's 2AR-FE.. Boring, but not unwilling hehe. Definitely not low on power

Toyota could have tuned the engine to be livelier the same way Honda has done with the Accord’s K24 or Mazda with its SkyActiv 2.5L.


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[mda]

Toyota could have tuned the engine to be livelier the same way Honda has done with the Accord’s K24 or Mazda with its SkyActiv 2.5L.

True, but I don't think the steering and the chassis could keep up din... Dami kailangan palitan for the 'magic' to happen.

[Egan101]

My personal ride is a Camry 2.5V. I find the power more than adequate. It accelerates with authority and can haul 4 passengers up Tagaytay Midlands on D without a sweat. The 6AT is smooth and the ride is extremely comfortable. Plus it is as reliable as a ref.

Midsize cars with 2.4L or 2.5L NA engines still offer better performance compared to base model CUVs with smaller 2.0 L NA engines. They also offer a comfortable ride. A CUV’s ground clearance and multi-purpose cargo area are its advantages over a base model midsize car.

If I were to choose, I would still pick an Accord or Mazda6 or Camry over a CRV or CX5 or RAV4.


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[Archerfish]

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What if I tell you that you can buy a CUV that is comfortable enough, has a big cargo area, decent room on the rear, not underpowered, and drives well for its size? Too bad it’s not a Mazda or a Honda.


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May I know what is this CUV? I'm curious...

[diehard]

Midsize cars with 2.4L or 2.5L NA engines still offer better performance compared to base model CUVs with smaller 2.0 L NA engines. They also offer a comfortable ride. A CUV’s ground clearance and multi-purpose cargo area are its advantages over a base model midsize car.

If I were to choose, I would still pick an Accord or Mazda6 or Camry over a CRV or CX5 or RAV4.


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In my family, my wife is the one into CUVs because of the ride height and cargo room (more shopping!). I prefer the power and comfort of mid-size sedans, which is why I've never considered a PPV vehicle. Am thinking about getting an FXT to replace my Camry (if Subaru still comes out with one) in 2019. Mid-size vehicle's resale value is not good, and the Forester's ride is comfortable enough substitute.

[Egan101]

May I know what is this CUV? I'm curious...

A Subaru Forester XT, bro. It is roamy inside, the trunk is big enough, and can give you a bonkers of a ride. It’s a tamed WRX for dads like me.

If you have more money to spare, an Audi Q5 or RS4 would fit the description also.


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[StockEngine]

A Subaru Forester XT, bro. It is roamy inside, the trunk is big enough, and can give you a bonkers of a ride. It’s a tamed WRX for dads like me.

If you have more money to spare, an Audi Q5 or RS4 would fit the description also.


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the next gen forster is even bigger [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]

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[Egan101]

In my family, my wife is the one into CUVs because of the ride height and cargo room (more shopping!). I prefer the power and comfort of mid-size sedans, which is why I've never considered a PPV vehicle. Am thinking about getting an FXT to replace my Camry (if Subaru still comes out with one) in 2019. Mid-size vehicle's resale value is not good, and the Forester's ride is comfortable enough substitute.

Subaru announced they may not release an XT model of the Forester for the next generation. However, Motor Image said they will be releasing locally a Levorg 2.0DIT. Its engine is in the same tune as the WRX unlike the FXT with its FA20 detuned.


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[Nelson de Leon]

Hello everyone. I'm new to Tsikot. I am choosing between the Mazda CX5 Pro and Honda CRV 2.0S. I prefer the styling of the CX5 (as well as its conventional 6-speed AT). However, I have a few questions:

4) Is cargo room adequate and useable? The sloping rear hatch seems to cut the vertical space quite a bit.

TIA

1. My vote for comfortable ride goes to CR-V. However, let's wait for someone who owns a CX-5. Nelson?

2. I go for Mazda, and you should know what I'm trying to say. Your experience should tell you how you are "connected" with the car.

I haven't driven the CRV 2.0 so cannot comment on that.

Yeah the sloping rear does cut vertical space. I have compared it with use Tucson. Tucson has bigger truck numbers but the CX-5 for me has more "useable" space. The "connection" you said is the jinba ittai principle of Mazda.

A Subaru Forester XT, bro. It is roamy inside, the trunk is big enough, and can give you a bonkers of a ride. It’s a tamed WRX for dads like me.

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I've tried the turbo 2016 XT and its a monster! Very powerful. I just find the suspension too stiff for me. I have yet to see a CUV that can beat turbo XT in terms of speed and acceleration.


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[StockEngine]

I haven't driven the CRV 2.0 so cannot comment on that.

Yeah the sloping rear does cut vertical space. I have compared it with use Tucson. Tucson has bigger truck numbers but the CX-5 for me has more "useable" space. The "connection" you said is the jinba ittai principle of Mazda.



I've tried the turbo 2016 XT and its a monster! Very powerful. I just find the suspension too stiff for me. I have yet to see a CUV that can beat turbo XT in terms of speed and acceleration.


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youre in luck. there wont be an xt after it runs out [emoji24]

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[diehard]

youre in luck. there wont be an xt after it runs out [emoji24]

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There are rumors that only the "XT" moniker will go away to be replaced by "Sport". Rationale being that most Americans understand what "Sport" badging means whereas "XT" to them means nothing. Hopefully this is the case...