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    #2281
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Sir, thanks po. Will keep those in mind. My almost empty case was a one time thing. I know it's bad to run that low. Appreciate the reminder. I need to be reminded every now and then para di ako careless. Iniisip ko kasi na bagong-bago pa to, walang mangyayari. And then it breaks down. Bummer! But I don't think that was the cause. I am more inclined to believe that they gave me a defective unit which has really got me furious.

    Honestly, I've handled 2nd hand cars before and the only issue I had were flat tires. Yes, tell me I'm exaggerating. I'm not. But let us leave this story for another day.

    Matanong din po Sir, when you start your Mazda after it was parked for a long time, let's say overnight, does it initially rev up to 2 to 3 RPM before it goes down to 1? This happens to mine. This is normal right? I am trying to recall if this behaviour is described in the manual. But I might have missed it though.

    EDIT: Just to be clear the car is in P. When I start it RPM will go up to 2-3RPM as if I'm stepping on the accelerator, which I'm not. The noise is normal but noticeably loud. Then it goes back to normal and silent after a few seconds.

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    Marky
    I won't go as far as pointing malice. Doing so would do the dealership more harm than anything. Crap sometimes just happens.[emoji852]
    High rev cold start idling is pre-programmed to get the engine up to op-temps quicker. Healthier. It's a Skyactiv norm.

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    #2282
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Sir, thanks po. Will keep those in mind. My almost empty case was a one time thing. I know it's bad to run that low. Appreciate the reminder. I need to be reminded every now and then para di ako careless. Iniisip ko kasi na bagong-bago pa to, walang mangyayari. And then it breaks down. Bummer! But I don't think that was the cause. I am more inclined to believe that they gave me a defective unit which has really got me furious.

    Honestly, I've handled 2nd hand cars before and the only issue I had were flat tires. Yes, tell me I'm exaggerating. I'm not. But let us leave this story for another day.

    Matanong din po Sir, when you start your Mazda after it was parked for a long time, let's say overnight, does it initially rev up to 2 to 3 RPM before it goes down to 1? This happens to mine. This is normal right? I am trying to recall if this behaviour is described in the manual. But I might have missed it though.

    EDIT: Just to be clear the car is in P. When I start it RPM will go up to 2-3RPM as if I'm stepping on the accelerator, which I'm not. The noise is normal but noticeably loud. Then it goes back to normal and silent after a few seconds.

    Thanks po,
    Marky
    Buto*engine warm up

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    #2283
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Sir, thanks po. Will keep those in mind. My almost empty case was a one time thing. I know it's bad to run that low. Appreciate the reminder. I need to be reminded every now and then para di ako careless. Iniisip ko kasi na bagong-bago pa to, walang mangyayari. And then it breaks down. Bummer! But I don't think that was the cause. I am more inclined to believe that they gave me a defective unit which has really got me furious.

    Honestly, I've handled 2nd hand cars before and the only issue I had were flat tires. Yes, tell me I'm exaggerating. I'm not. But let us leave this story for another day.

    Matanong din po Sir, when you start your Mazda after it was parked for a long time, let's say overnight, does it initially rev up to 2 to 3 RPM before it goes down to 1? This happens to mine. This is normal right? I am trying to recall if this behaviour is described in the manual. But I might have missed it though.

    EDIT: Just to be clear the car is in P. When I start it RPM will go up to 2-3RPM as if I'm stepping on the accelerator, which I'm not. The noise is normal but noticeably loud. Then it goes back to normal and silent after a few seconds.

    Thanks po,
    Marky

    Thats actually normal for a lot of vehicle engines.

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    #2284
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post

    EDIT: Just to be clear the car is in P. When I start it RPM will go up to 2-3RPM as if I'm stepping on the accelerator, which I'm not. The noise is normal but noticeably loud. Then it goes back to normal and silent after a few seconds.

    Thanks po,
    Marky
    It’s normal when you start the car na above 1K RPM siya lalo na galing overnight parking... pero kung 2K-3K RPM medyo over sa normal.


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    #2285
    Cguro ako yung 1 sa 100,000, malas ko lang po?
    This is the correct answer.

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    #2286
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUninvited View Post
    This is the correct answer.
    Hahaha! Did you have to rub it in?

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    #2287
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    It’s normal when you start the car na above 1K RPM siya lalo na galing overnight parking... pero kung 2K-3K RPM medyo over sa normal.


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    Yes, it goes up beyond 1K. Then after a few seconds it settles down to 1. Let me check again later when I get it. Hopefully everything is fixed and I won't be having any issues in the near future.

    Also, probably different for Mazda? Ano po sa inyo guys?

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    #2288
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Yes, it goes up beyond 1K. Then after a few seconds it settles down to 1. Let me check again later when I get it. Hopefully everything is fixed and I won't be having any issues in the near future.

    Also, probably different for Mazda? Ano po sa inyo guys?
    Normal....


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    #2289
    So normal po ba to:

    Brand new car barely 2 months old can have engine-related issues due to defective part/s? (Emphasis on engine-related since one can have the wheels or body paint scratched, windows cracked since these are "superficial".)

    But it very less likely to happen, but it could still happen.

    And thus there is a warranty. Specifically for scenarios like mine.


    Show of hands please, how many here have had their brand new cars, 6 months old or less, heck let's put it at a year, that have had engine and/or engine parts replaced due to defects? And I mean the only way you knew about it is because your car failed on something major for some reason (like NOT start), and not because you went for PMS then the mechanic adviced to replace something. Just curious lang po.

    Because I can't wrap my head around this. Sorry folks. Medyo nawalan lang ako ng onting tiwala sa Mazda. Makes me think, should have stuck with Nissan. Served me well kahit 2nd hand. Geez! A brand new car fails because of faulty fuel pumps. What are the odds?

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    #2290
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    So normal po ba to:

    Brand new car barely 2 months old can have engine-related issues due to defective part/s? (Emphasis on engine-related since one can have the wheels or body paint scratched, windows cracked since these are "superficial".)

    But it very less likely to happen, but it could still happen.

    And thus there is a warranty. Specifically for scenarios like mine.


    Show of hands please, how many here have had their brand new cars, 6 months old or less, heck let's put it at a year, that have had engine and/or engine parts replaced due to defects? And I mean the only way you knew about it is because your car failed on something major for some reason (like NOT start), and not because you went for PMS then the mechanic adviced to replace something. Just curious lang po.

    Because I can't wrap my head around this. Sorry folks. Medyo nawalan lang ako ng onting tiwala sa Mazda. Makes me think, should have stuck with Nissan. Served me well kahit 2nd hand. Geez! A brand new car fails because of faulty fuel pumps. What are the odds?
    Feel your pain, sir. Just sit back & allow them to right it under warranty. The 2DJ is an enjoyable vehicle. Never had issues w/ ours.

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    #2291
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    So normal po ba to:

    Brand new car barely 2 months old can have engine-related issues due to defective part/s? (Emphasis on engine-related since one can have the wheels or body paint scratched, windows cracked since these are "superficial".)

    But it very less likely to happen, but it could still happen.

    And thus there is a warranty. Specifically for scenarios like mine.


    Show of hands please, how many here have had their brand new cars, 6 months old or less, heck let's put it at a year, that have had engine and/or engine parts replaced due to defects? And I mean the only way you knew about it is because your car failed on something major for some reason (like NOT start), and not because you went for PMS then the mechanic adviced to replace something. Just curious lang po.

    Because I can't wrap my head around this. Sorry folks. Medyo nawalan lang ako ng onting tiwala sa Mazda. Makes me think, should have stuck with Nissan. Served me well kahit 2nd hand. Geez! A brand new car fails because of faulty fuel pumps. What are the odds?
    Have you tried joining the Mazda2ners FB group? Yeah there are some members who have had engine related issues.

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    #2292
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Normal....


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    didn't know it's ok to go when the engine is revving up during an engine start.
    I usually wait until the blue thermometer light in the dashboard turns off.

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    #2293
    Quote Originally Posted by xnxnxn View Post
    didn't know it's ok to go when the engine is revving up during an engine start.
    I usually wait until the blue thermometer light in the dashboard turns off.
    I know someone who won't turn the AC on til the engine coolant temp reaches 88°C....no matter how smoldering the cabin is.[emoji13]...You're still within the threshold of normal, xnx sir.[emoji106][emoji16]

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    #2294
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Yes, it goes up beyond 1K. Then after a few seconds it settles down to 1. Let me check again later when I get it. Hopefully everything is fixed and I won't be having any issues in the near future.

    Also, probably different for Mazda? Ano po sa inyo guys?
    Mine stays around bet 1-1.5K RPM until the cold oil icon gone and stays below1K RPM...so yours is nomal as well...


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    #2295
    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    So normal po ba to:

    Brand new car barely 2 months old can have engine-related issues due to defective part/s? (Emphasis on engine-related since one can have the wheels or body paint scratched, windows cracked since these are "superficial".)

    But it very less likely to happen, but it could still happen.

    And thus there is a warranty. Specifically for scenarios like mine.


    Show of hands please, how many here have had their brand new cars, 6 months old or less, heck let's put it at a year, that have had engine and/or engine parts replaced due to defects? And I mean the only way you knew about it is because your car failed on something major for some reason (like NOT start), and not because you went for PMS then the mechanic adviced to replace something. Just curious lang po.

    Because I can't wrap my head around this. Sorry folks. Medyo nawalan lang ako ng onting tiwala sa Mazda. Makes me think, should have stuck with Nissan. Served me well kahit 2nd hand. Geez! A brand new car fails because of faulty fuel pumps. What are the odds?
    Fuel pump issue is not limited to Mazda. Look at the newer models from Mitsubishi and Toyota. Their Rush and Expander. Heck even the Supra is being recalled by BMW coz of welding issue. (not related). Anyway, have it replaced by Mazda dealership and hopefully you are good to go.

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    #2296
    Quote Originally Posted by RedlineJunkie View Post
    Fuel pump issue is not limited to Mazda. Look at the newer models from Mitsubishi and Toyota. Their Rush and Expander. Heck even the Supra is being recalled by BMW coz of welding issue. (not related). Anyway, have it replaced by Mazda dealership and hopefully you are good to go.

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    Followed Mazda's current engines from conception to application, from pre-ownership to now, longterm....from community feedback, local & overseas to Technical Bulletins...However it's taken, as good news or bad luck, sky fuel pumps are not known to be unreliable. Like all things, they do have a limit on service life though....& yes, troubles like these are not badge specific...Some are just worse than others. I recall the gen2 '07-'14 BMW MINIs...their High Pressure Fuel Pump was a known definite failure time bomb.


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    #2297
    Okay correction on my claim earlier. The engine warm up from cold start is at 1.5 RPM. Not 2 or 3. My bad. Must have been looking at it wrongly. So yes it's as described as posted by one good sir here.

    2nd correction, it's the fuel pump at the fuel tank one that had an issue.

    Now that I have been driving it for a week++ after I got it back, it feels odd somehow. For one, I could almost not hear that soft whistle-like sound of the engine as it accelerates. Normally I hear this from a a full stop. Do you guys notice this?

    Second, there is a slight difference in its responsiveness when I step on the accelerator compared to when I first got it. Might just be the pessimist in me. Then again, the fuel economy monitor says I'm at 15km to 17km to a liter from QC to Shaw at 2am running between 60km/h to 80km/h. Before I think it was just around 14 average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markyxyz View Post
    Okay correction on my claim earlier. The engine warm up from cold start is at 1.5 RPM. Not 2 or 3. My bad. Must have been looking at it wrongly. So yes it's as described as posted by one good sir here.

    2nd correction, it's the fuel pump at the fuel tank one that had an issue.

    Now that I have been driving it for a week++ after I got it back, it feels odd somehow. For one, I could almost not hear that soft whistle-like sound of the engine as it accelerates. Normally I hear this from a a full stop. Do you guys notice this?

    Second, there is a slight difference in its responsiveness when I step on the accelerator compared to when I first got it. Might just be the pessimist in me. Then again, the fuel economy monitor says I'm at 15km to 17km to a liter from QC to Shaw at 2am running between 60km/h to 80km/h. Before I think it was just around 14 average.
    Glad they got it fixed, sir. Give it some time for your ECU to relearn. Also, intake air temp variations & the fuel you use will affect response.

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    #2299
    The high engine coolant temp just went on according to wife. Having it towed now

    I checked the coolant level when i arrive and its full + fan is working

    Anyone else have this experience?
    This is a 1.5 year old m2 and just got PMS last sept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xnxnxn View Post
    The high engine coolant temp just went on according to wife. Having it towed now

    I checked the coolant level when i arrive and its full + fan is working

    Anyone else have this experience?
    This is a 1.5 year old m2 and just got PMS last sept.
    Initial diagnosis seconday belt (2k php)and tension bearing (12k php) both not covered by yojin3 since wear and tear parts daw

    Eta of parts 2-3 wks

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