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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Since experiencing RoadForce balancing, it's that or nothing. The lone 1 here charges P200 a corner + weights.

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    will try that bro when i replace my tire, para sabay alignment [emoji106]
    meron daw dito goodyear pasig [emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    will try that bro when i replace my tire, para sabay alignment [emoji106]
    meron daw dito goodyear pasig [emoji6]

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    Drive+, too.

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    we have a 2021 innova na pinalitan yung spare tire for insurance claim, na pansin ko yung bago palit ay wala wheel weights (tinga), meaning either perfectly balance siya o nakalimutan nila i balance

    so i checked all my 4 tires and yung dalawa gulong lang sa kaliwa ang may wheel weights, bale na tire rotation na ito nung 10t KM pero hindi sinunod yung tama patern kase pasaway ang mga nasa customer cradle las pinas

    in my experience in my previous car tires, never nagkaroon ng "PERFECTLY" balanced tires nung nagpapalit ako ng gulong, bale in my lifetime 4x na ako nag papalit ng gulong and lahat yun may wheel weights/tinga kahit sundin yung yellow and red dot sa gulong...

    so panibagong kalbaryo nanaman ako sa toyota...
    Last edited by Stigg ma; October 20th, 2022 at 11:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    we have a 2021 innova na pinalitan yung spare tire for insurance claim, na pansin ko yung bago palit ay wala wheel weights (tinga), meaning either perfectly balance siya o nakalimutan nila i balance

    so i checked all my 4 tires and yung dalawa gulong lang sa kaliwa ang may wheel weights, bale na tire rotation na ito nung 10t KM pero hindi sinunod yung tama patern kase pasaway ang mga nasa customer cradle las pinas

    in my experience in my previous car tires, never nagkaroon ng "PERFECTLY" balanced tires nung nagpapalit ako ng gulong, bale in my lifetime 4x na ako nag papalit ng gulong and lahat yun may wheel weights/tinga kahit sundin yung yellow and red dot sa gulong...

    so panibagong kalbaryo nanaman ako sa toyota...
    we can go to toyota, or we can go to the independent tyre shop.
    waiting time alone, it's independent tyre shop for me.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 21st, 2022 at 12:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    we have a 2021 innova na pinalitan yung spare tire for insurance claim, na pansin ko yung bago palit ay wala wheel weights (tinga), meaning either perfectly balance siya o nakalimutan nila i balance

    so i checked all my 4 tires and yung dalawa gulong lang sa kaliwa ang may wheel weights, bale na tire rotation na ito nung 10t KM pero hindi sinunod yung tama patern kase pasaway ang mga nasa customer cradle las pinas

    in my experience in my previous car tires, never nagkaroon ng "PERFECTLY" balanced tires nung nagpapalit ako ng gulong, bale in my lifetime 4x na ako nag papalit ng gulong and lahat yun may wheel weights/tinga kahit sundin yung yellow and red dot sa gulong...

    so panibagong kalbaryo nanaman ako sa toyota...
    I've had RoadForce Balanced & match-mounted wheels w/ 0 weights required a coupla times. Fluke perhaps, but it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    we can go to toyota, or we can go to the independent tyre shop.
    waiting time alone, it's independent tyre shop for me.
    galing ako minerva, meron daw talaga mga gulong na "perfectly balanced"! wow, sa experience ko nga na 4x (meaning 4x na apat na gulong = 16 tires) nag papalit ng gulong ay lahat dun may wheel weights...

    kung gusto ko daw pa tignan kung naka balance ay bayad daw ako ng P250 kada gulong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    galing ako minerva, meron daw talaga mga gulong na "perfectly balanced"! wow, sa experience ko nga na 4x (meaning 4x na apat na gulong = 16 tires) nag papalit ng gulong ay lahat dun may wheel weights...

    kung gusto ko daw pa tignan kung naka balance ay bayad daw ako ng P250 kada gulong
    "i could have told you that earlier, but you would not have believed me."

    go for it, sir.
    else, your suspicions will never be put to bed.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    I've had RoadForce Balanced & match-mounted wheels w/ 0 weights required a coupla times. Fluke perhaps, but it happens.

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    probably more often than a fluke. i myself over my lifetime so far i can remember when I had my tires balanced resulted in "0" weights. one occasion it wasn't even a brand new tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babkalakal View Post
    probably more often than a fluke. i myself over my lifetime so far i can remember when I had my tires balanced resulted in "0" weights. one occasion it wasn't even a brand new tire.
    tatlo na tayo!
    siguro naman, credible witnesses na tayong tatlo...

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    #30
    Ano yang wheel weights na yan?
    Saang part ng wheel yan makikita?
    Siningil ako ng CASA additional amount sa pinawarranty ko na MAGs dahil daw nagdagdag wheel weights ang installer during wheel alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Ano yang wheel weights na yan?
    Saang part ng wheel yan makikita?
    Siningil ako ng CASA additional amount sa pinawarranty ko na MAGs dahil daw nagdagdag wheel weights ang installer during wheel alignment.
    naka dikit sa inner diameter ng mags either sa inboard or outer side depende sa need. on older cars may clip-on weight naka sabit sa labi ng rim. madalas makita ngayon sa mga jeep

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    #32
    pumunta ako sa toyota, nasa warranty booklet na di kasali ang wheel balancing sa warranty kapareho ng wheel alignment... nung 1st day bnew palang ito sasakyan namin nag claim n agad kame ng wheel alignment, di daw talaga kasali sa warranty pero pinilit namin kase nga brandnew nga ang sasakyan namin, pambihira mga BOBO pilipino nakaka bwisit... 3x nila ni wheel alignment (2x backjob), bago nila napaandar ng diretso...

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    #33
    Why bother claiming pa sa toyota.. kung may wheel alignment facility sila mas OK.. pero kung wala, sa good year ang punta ko..

    Minsan talaga sablay din mismo yung tire.. manufacturing na din siguro.. baka nasa lower spec ng "passing" mark sa quality in terms of balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Why bother claiming pa sa toyota.. kung may wheel alignment facility sila mas OK.. pero kung wala, sa good year ang punta ko..

    Minsan talaga sablay din mismo yung tire.. manufacturing na din siguro.. baka nasa lower spec ng "passing" mark sa quality in terms of balance
    sa pag kaka intindi ko umiiwas si toyota gawin ang mga bagay na hindi covered ng warranty, less work to cut cost sa factory, and more profit to have them do it sa casa... well ano ba naman mawawala sa kanila eh TOP1 naman sila sa benta... ang pinoy nga naman, ginagamit ang talino sa mali...

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Why bother claiming pa sa toyota.. kung may wheel alignment facility sila mas OK.. pero kung wala, sa good year ang punta ko..

    Minsan talaga sablay din mismo yung tire.. manufacturing na din siguro.. baka nasa lower spec ng "passing" mark sa quality in terms of balance
    Brand new kasi, if I am the buyer, yan din yung irerequest ko.
    Magrerelease sila ng brand new unit, dapat walang defect.

    Considered as defect kasi yan if hindi align (although hindi naman gaano ka serious na defect).
    Siguro mag make sense if more than 3 months na yung unit, may reason sila to decline the request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Brand new kasi, if I am the buyer, yan din yung irerequest ko.
    Magrerelease sila ng brand new unit, dapat walang defect.

    Considered as defect kasi yan if hindi align (although hindi naman gaano ka serious na defect).
    Siguro mag make sense if more than 3 months na yung unit, may reason sila to decline the request.
    i was informed by the casa mechanic/SA,
    "... within 1000 km".

    but yes,
    the downtime in the casa is so long, i would sooner bring it to the independent alignment shop.

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Brand new kasi, if I am the buyer, yan din yung irerequest ko.
    Magrerelease sila ng brand new unit, dapat walang defect.

    Considered as defect kasi yan if hindi align (although hindi naman gaano ka serious na defect).
    Siguro mag make sense if more than 3 months na yung unit, may reason sila to decline the request.
    Could it really have just been an alignment issue, knowing it took multiple back and forth with Toyota Casa to correct it?

    I recall the current gen Montero's that arrived original had an "alignment" issue and it really had to do with the steering being biased to one direction that they MMPC had to resolve for those initial units of production they got. It "should have" been corrected in the succeeding batches.

    So for this Fortuner to not "drive straight" eventhough it is bnew leads me to believe the issue wasn't related to alignment or even balancing, but rather the "centering" of the steering maybe being biased towards one direction? Just a guess.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post

    So for this Fortuner to not "drive straight" eventhough it is bnew leads me to believe the issue wasn't related to alignment or even balancing, but rather the "centering" of the steering maybe being biased towards one direction? Just a guess.
    1. is it a design glitch, such that all units suffered the same malfunction? as such, no amount of the usual adjustment may correct it?
    2. is it a shop system "mal-adjustment" caused by biased adjusting person? they all swerved or their manibelas weren't "straight", but all are correct-able by re-adjustment.
    3. a random human error? malas lang nang buyer...
    4. it's not the vehicle; it's the out-of-round tyre.

    i vaguely remember in the past,
    ... all the headlights were adjusted at the factory, biased in favor or right-hand-drive.

    back-jobs are a common thing in wheel alignments. i remember, coming back at least once more, for "tweaking".

    there is something similar in the watch threads,
    seiko are said to have this reputation of minute factory mal-alignments of their faces and bezels...
    also, their watches' accuracy ratings are all over the place; it seems, according to some writers, seiko did not adjust their products to function at their possible best, but succumbed to the "puede na" mentality.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 25th, 2022 at 06:54 PM.

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    #39
    I prefer to have ours dialed in over my go-to alignment shop. I can personally dictate the tolerances, test & have the car up the lifter when a redo is needed.
    Stress over simple matters just isn't worth the time.[emoji4]
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    #40
    Is it normal to use 25 wheel weights/tinga for balancing a single wheel? Feels wrong bruhs, seems predatory

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