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    #911
    Quote Originally Posted by j_avonni View Post
    What you quoted is correct. My Innova is gas while my Carens is diesel. For both vehicles, I only start my engine if I'm ready to leave. I don't idle for even a minute as this is a waste of fuel.


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    , sir J_avonni. It didn't state if that applies to both Diesel and gas. Thanks for the info. The article said to warm it up for 30seconds to lubricate and slowly run it 'til it hits it peak temperature. That I will do.Thanks.

    Maiba nga tayo... why is it that carens isn't in the same category as innova? Caren is only 10mm shorter but 30mm wider than innova...and definitely much bigger and more powerful than Avanza. Do you think it was fair to compete avanza to carens?

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    #912
    [QUOTE=j_avonni;1016500]What you quoted is correct. My Innova is gas while my Carens is diesel. For both vehicles, I only start my engine if I'm ready to leave. I don't idle for even a minute as this is a waste of fuel.
    Well I think it's not a good thing to do. Somehow mas mura ang fuel kesa pa repair ng engine since pwedeng magka premature failure dahil di man lang nakaka circulate lubricating oil sa system tapos takbo na agad. If it's overnight na naka stop kailangan talaga warm up muna.

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    #913
    Hey peeps I'm new here. Been wondering if somebody here has both Innova and carens (diesel engine of course). I'm kinda curious of these 2 models. Which is a better buy. Built, look and image wise. Suspension and everything. Pros and cons of both.

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    #914
    [quote=jeanpierre;1016826]
    Quote Originally Posted by j_avonni View Post
    What you quoted is correct. My Innova is gas while my Carens is diesel. For both vehicles, I only start my engine if I'm ready to leave. I don't idle for even a minute as this is a waste of fuel.
    Well I think it's not a good thing to do. Somehow mas mura ang fuel kesa pa repair ng engine since pwedeng magka premature failure dahil di man lang nakaka circulate lubricating oil sa system tapos takbo na agad. If it's overnight na naka stop kailangan talaga warm up muna.

    Well, I've been doing that since time immemorial for the 5 cars I've owned. And nothing bad happened to my engines. What is important is you don't race right after starting up. And if possible don't turn on the aircon yet.


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    Last edited by j_avonni; February 25th, 2008 at 05:16 PM.

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    #915
    i think it boils down to your preference. it's going to be a long debate since none of us will claim to have experienced any problems with our engines based on "start-then-run". wala naman sigurong magbubukas ng makina sa atin to verify this.

    i think the opinion that warming up your engine wastes gas is valid naman. siyempre, you're consuming gas in those 5 minutes. also, i agree with j_avonni na you don't "race" it right away after driving off in the morning, for example.

    siguro it might be different for other engines like carb-type ones. like my "itlog" lancer na EL. i cannot just drive off kasi may auto-choke feature siya. idling settles down only after i've run here for about 5 minutes. it's a bit irritating to drive off immediately kasi sumisibat siya everytime you change gears since nasa 2k idling speed ng makina. iba din kasi efi, nakapako sa 800 lang idling kahit kaka-start mo.

    siguro it won't hurt to let her run a minute or two for the oil to lubricate the entire engine area. and, like j_avonni, huwag agad hataw pag alis.

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    #916
    hi sir ask ko lng po why did u choose caren of all other cars current in the market as a owner of caren kamusta nman po ang performace niya at musta din po ang fuel comsunption niya any problems encountered already I hope u dnt mind giving us details interesado din po ki sana mabili thank u

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    #917
    I am perfectly happy with my 4 month old Carens LX... FC is ok at 8.5 to 9km/l for 100% city driving, given it is an AT. I am happy with the inside features as well as the outside. only downside is the low ground clearance... hope this would help you

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    #918
    Quote Originally Posted by marga25ph View Post
    hi sir ask ko lng po why did u choose caren of all other cars current in the market as a owner of caren kamusta nman po ang performace niya at musta din po ang fuel comsunption niya any problems encountered already I hope u dnt mind giving us details interesado din po ki sana mabili thank u
    we chose the carens crdi because:
    - its size is just right.. its a 5-seater with a big cargo that can easily transform into a 7-seater when the need arises. its big but small enough to squeeze along the busy streets and quite easy to park anywhere.
    - it got a refined diesel engine (for its price range and category) e.g. good NVH rating/performance.
    - just to re-iterate the fantastic seating layout.
    - it's a van that doesn't look like a van/or a car that somewhat looks like an suv/or an suv that somewhat drives like a car
    - fuel economy of a 1.3L and the power of a 2L gasoline engine
    - (we later found out that ) the engine is so powerful and is perfect for long drives on highways.

    our carens is almost 4 months old and... so far so good!

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    #919
    Quote Originally Posted by wavecxs View Post
    we chose the carens crdi because:
    - its size is just right.. its a 5-seater with a big cargo that can easily transform into a 7-seater when the need arises. its big but small enough to squeeze along the busy streets and quite easy to park anywhere.
    - it got a refined diesel engine (for its price range and category) e.g. good NVH rating/performance.
    - just to re-iterate the fantastic seating layout.
    - it's a van that doesn't look like a van/or a car that somewhat looks like an suv/or an suv that somewhat drives like a car
    - fuel economy of a 1.3L and the power of a 2L gasoline engine
    - (we later found out that ) the engine is so powerful and is perfect for long drives on highways.

    our carens is almost 4 months old and... so far so good!

    Well said, Sir waxcxs. It's a crossover van/car/suv intead. It looks small but try to test drive one and you wil see it is truly quite spacious like a van, drives like a car and looks like a suv.

    sir marga, The reason why I bought mine last dec was the 7 seats it offers and the value for money. What i got was a real nice car with lots of power.

    "Who would've gussed that this innocous-looking wagon could zoom past most cars and it seats 7 while at it." By Tessa R. Salazar, The pros and cons of Kia Carens CRDi, Motoring, Philippine Daily Inquirer, 23 jan 2008.

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    #920
    Guys, what is the top speed you reached in your crdi carens?

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