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    #41
    for me...di naman overpricing ang mga Isuzu products dito sa Plilipinas...like other brands....

    [SIZE=4]they base the pricing according to their cost of production....[/SIZE]

    like for example,ang gamit na aircon compressor ng Mitsubishi Adventure,ay MSC China made,unlike sa Isuzu Crosswind na Denso Indonesia....yung radiator ng Adventure ay locally fabricated,sa Crosswind ay Denso indonesia...yung enterteinment system ng Adventure ay made in China,samantalang sa Crosswind ay branded na JVC...

    ang makina ng Adventure,made in Taiwan China..Isuzu Crosswind, Indonesia...Chinese and Indians are the most chepeast laborer in Asia...


    you do the math bros...

    At isa pa,Isuzu is also a well known company...meron tayong sangay sa Gobyerno na nag mo monitor ng mga price ng bawat produkto sa Pinas....nung Motorcade nga ni Pnoy nung manalo syang Presidente,puro Sportivo black yung mga nakasunod sa Executive car nya e..

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by acergy09 View Post
    for me...di naman overpricing ang mga Isuzu products dito sa Plilipinas...like other brands....

    [SIZE=4]they base the pricing according to their cost of production....[/SIZE]

    like for example,ang gamit na aircon compressor ng Mitsubishi Adventure,ay MSC China made,unlike sa Isuzu Crosswind na Denso Indonesia....yung radiator ng Adventure ay locally fabricated,sa Crosswind ay Denso indonesia...yung enterteinment system ng Adventure ay made in China,samantalang sa Crosswind ay branded na JVC...

    ang makina ng Adventure,made in Taiwan China..Isuzu Crosswind, Indonesia...Chinese and Indians are the most chepeast laborer in Asia...


    you do the math bros...

    At isa pa,Isuzu is also a well known company...meron tayong sangay sa Gobyerno na nag mo monitor ng mga price ng bawat produkto sa Pinas....nung Motorcade nga ni Pnoy nung manalo syang Presidente,puro Sportivo black yung mga nakasunod sa Executive car nya e..
    Overpriced na siya kasi yung cost of development which is very expensive R&D eh bawing-bawi na sila for the Crosswind and the Dmax at least.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by cnxpr08 View Post
    *patsys
    go for sta.fe
    kung di k nman into offroading kahit 4x2 m/t variant ok na ok na yun
    super ganda ng makina kahit di maxado malaki displacement.
    For me hyundai ang tunay na may improvement. hahaha
    pero like ko parin isuzu kahit kakainis.
    Arte nyo naman.. kala nyo naman napakaganda ng sta fe eh kalampagin din naman..Ang bilis pa mag depreciate ang prices pag nagtagal.. tsaka basehan man sa mauusok mas mausok parin ang 4d56 or mga makina ng adventure o kaya mga makina ng pajero.. kung gusto nyo pabilisin ung crosswind nyo upgredan ninyo ng turbo or kung nakakalampagan kau sa xwind nyo palitan nyo ng gas type ung shocks nyo at panitrogen nyo ung gulong nyo gaya ng ginawa ko sa xwind ko.. Tsaka depende yan sa pag aalaga ng sasakyan yan.. Bigyan nyo xa ng kelangan nya tsak mabibigyan din nya kau ng kelangan mo..

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by robin_micmac View Post
    I think Isuzu Phils is just being conservative on their product lineup. Isuzu may not want to bring in their high tech products or whatever you want to call it and just decided to stick with their jurassic lineup because they are still meeting their sales target. They may have better Isuzu products in other countries which isnt available here partly because they dont want to join that cut throat market of high horsepower high torque output trump card games where their competitors are in at the moment. Just like what a lot of you mentioned earlier, Isuzu engines are jurassic and durable and it is still selling pretty well. They have their own niche market which they monopolize at the moment. so why bother bring in other products which you are not sure of its selling success? Isuzu Philippines lineup is aimed for 3rd world market? then i think its because we are 3rd world. If we complain that Isuzu isnt bringing in their hi tech products here, it just means that their market study is showing that we are not a big market potential and its showing that jurassic and durable is the way to go for them. For these big companies its always numbers game. Its always about sales volumes. Its always about hitting targets.

    Just to show another example, Land Rover will soon be putting an end to their iconic Defender after more than 60 years in production. It will be replaced by the DC100 concept and it caused a lot of fury to Land Rover afficionados and saying why kill the old Defender? Answer is simple, the company isnt selling enough Defenders anymore hence they need a new model. This time its the other way around, Land Rover is going to make a new and Hitech Defender but people wanted the Jurassic and Durable Defender hence they were complaining. You cant please everyone.

    but at the end of the day, its always the market that would dictate which products you should be selling.

    just my thoughts.
    Hyundai seems to have a totally opposite business principle. They discontinued their Accent CRDI when it is still doing very well...

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    #45
    On topic

    I think it's about time that Isuzu bring a sedan here and grab the fan base made by the Accent CRDi which they abandoned. Parang yung panahon ng Isuzu Gemini.

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS50 View Post
    Hyundai seems to have a totally opposite business principle. They discontinued their Accent CRDI when it is still doing very well...

    Just like a stock market "Contrarian", this is a very smart ploy to garner more than it's share of the market. But, it sure has great risks. Many stock market "Contrarians" have become filthy rich.

    If you "go against the flow", you will not have much competition in your niche, because the masses tend to go like sheep and "follow the leader", rather than venture into something different. You can then reap sales from those who dislike what everyone else is chasing.

    Volkswagen did this, in a big way, with the original "Beetle" in the late forties. It was different in every way from anything else that was successful at the time.

    You can be most successful as a "Contrarian" from a marketing standpoint, but you MUST have a good product. Likewise, if you buy stock market shares that everyone else shys away from......but you must buy good stock market shares!

    Marketing is a most interesting study........you can never know everything. My old marketing text books from the late 60's are still relevant today.

    Ciao!

    Uncle Nick.

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    #47
    ^^^^

    a simpler explanation to what Hyundai does is Hyundai doesnt build different cars for different markets (developed countries and developing countries)

    what they sell in developed countries they also sell in developing countries

    unlike Japanese automakers who discriminate against developing countries (like the Phils.). they build lower cost, less safe, lower spec motor vehicles for developing countries

    it's kinda insulting

    Hyundai doesnt insult us with 2nd class cars. that's why Hyundai market share is eating into the market share of Japanese automakers here

    Pinoy car buyers are very sophisticated. we know 2nd class when we see it

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    #48
    kaya meron grey market

    coz there's demand for world class cars

    Dubai, US version...

    Phil. version is second class

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^^

    a simpler explanation to what Hyundai does is Hyundai doesnt build different cars for different markets (developed countries and developing countries)

    what they sell in developed countries they also sell in developing countries

    unlike Japanese automakers who discriminate against developing countries (like the Phils.). they build lower cost, less safe, lower spec motor vehicles for developing countries

    it's kinda insulting

    Hyundai doesnt insult us with 2nd class cars. that's why Hyundai market share is eating into the market share of Japanese automakers here

    Pinoy car buyers are very sophisticated. we know 2nd class when we see it
    I sort of disagree that making different cars for different markets is a form of discrimination. I think it is just necessary to make different variants for different markets as different countries have different road conditions and a different marketing behaviour. let me cite an example, a well known premium car maker has cars which are called 'deep wade market' cars. These cars are spec'd to a water wading depth of 450mm instead of the standard sign off requirement of 300mm. They installed remote breathers(snorkels) to all its driveline components to make sure water ingress to its components will be avoided. They dont need this spec for cars that are heading to north america as they dont encounter floods more than 300mm very often( it will just be an unecessary added cost for US spec cars) unlike in our country where flooded streets are normal during monsoon rains. Is this discrimination?I'm sure you'd be happy to know that the Philippines is considered as a 'deep wade market' and cars they send to us are tested for our flooded streets.

    Yes I agree that globalizing your product is the way to go but you see its easier said than done. Every car maker is dreaming of making a global spec car as it is much easier for them but it isnt always possible and there will always be a limiting factor. Ford is trying to do it now with the Fiesta and the Focus. They are now selling these European Fords to North America, but dont expect the TDCi versions to become popular there.

    Car makers would like to make their cars as robust as possible to keep customers happy and making market specific cars makes it possible for them. Just like the saying "Jack of all trades, master of none"..car makers dont want their cars like this.

    If Hyundai now has a globalized all their product line up then hands down to them! thats job well done! Better than any carmaker

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS50 View Post
    Hyundai seems to have a totally opposite business principle. They discontinued their Accent CRDI when it is still doing very well...
    Maybe the Accent have reached the end of its product lifecycle and its time to release the next generation Accent.

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