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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    this is the 3.1 diesel engine ng trooper prior sa 3.0 crdi, available na kaya ito sa mga surplus shop? magkano kaya?

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    #2
    hmm..may balak ata si kuya trup magpalit ah?

    di ba mas maganda na ung CRDi engine?

    di ko lam kung magkano..

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    nagtatanong lang kiper
    mas reliable kse ang 4jg2 and baka mahirap pa mag hanap nung 4JX1-TC na engine, and for sure super mahal pa

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    trup, i think subic 4jg2's(belt) are different from local 4jg2(chain)? alin dun? di ko rin sure kung available yung both sa surplusan?

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    Di ba gear ang local 4jg2. Anyway, I'll check later sa manual

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    not sure also about the local djerms. maybe you r right. ang sure ko lang is belt yung subic(teka ask ko garyq).

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    gear driven ang timing ng local and jdm 4jg2 isuzu engine. Just like TD42 and heavy equipment engines, heavy duty ang design nyan.

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    Kuya Trup,

    Bago lang po ako. Interesting kasi topic ninyo baka makatulong po.

    Sa lahat ng makina ng trooper, LOCAL 4JG2-TC and pinaka reliable.
    >Gear driven, walang takot na baka mapatid ang belt o maputol ang chain. This is why maingay ang engine.
    >Injection pump is not electronic, hindi maselan madaling pa repair. Imported 4JG2 electronic. Walang cable from the accelerator. Electronic wires ang delivery.
    >Turbo niya ay matibay, hindi masyadong na dadamage. Alagaan mo lang yung hose ng oil and especially ang water.

    Malakas ang 4JX1 kasi nga twin cam but...
    > Mahal and change oil, kasi Vesco lang ang pwede gamitin nito. importante kasi sa common rail injector yung oil. They pressure the injector to release diesel. Unlike the mechanical diesel fuel pumps. rotary pistons driven by gears and nagdidiliver. Maingay siya pero super reliable. linis land lang nozzel solve na.
    > Common rail injecters are very expensive, and by set(4) ang pagpalit. Marami ng nadali dito.
    > Turbo is also one culprit, sa sobrang damage usually replace. Yon ang Mahal, swerte ka kung makakuha ng surplus.
    > I also hear madaling masira and alternator.

    Between 4JX1 and 4JG2 sa pangalawa na ako. Maski Japan ok na.
    Hope nakatulong po. Pasensiya na sa mga tamaan.

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    4JGTootsie,

    Thanks for your inputs. Most of the guys know the setbacks of owning a 4jx1 compared to a 4jg2 but undoubtedly, it has a strong and quiet engine. Kanya kanyang pros and cons lang yan like you mentioned.

    Ako biased kasi naka 4jg2 din ako, local version. Do you also own one? Sama ka sa (Informal) group namin. hehe.

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    Opo kuya trup,

    Second ko na. Pareho sila 4JG2-TC but the other one has the newer tear drop headlights. Local version lang pareho kaya hindi masyado high tech. Frustrated mechanic kasi ako kaya tuwing saturday ayos lang ako ng ayos. In fact bumili kami ng friend ko last Nov. ng japan surplus na 4jgt just to compare the difference between the local and japan. Later we sold the Injection pump. Meron pang ibang parts, if anyone needs parts let me know baka meron. Kung may probem kayo just post the question we will try to answer. More power to IVEA and hope to join some day.

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    #11
    djerms; EB na yan.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11
    djerms; EB na yan.
    tamang tama EB na to...

    tanong lang po mga guru, kasi last week nagpalit kami ng thermostat (4jg2) then napansin ko na nababawasan ng konte yung coolant sa reservoir. dapat ba papalitan din yung parang gasket dun sa bandang thermostat or dapat ba lagyan ng parang sealant pagbalik ng thermostat? thanks.

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    Kuya Mc.

    Ok lang po yon, as long as walang leak. In case, pwede niyo gamitin ang yellow folder, just cut the shape of the gasket then put a thin layer of silicon. Or you can buy a sheet at 25 pesos per feet. Doon naman sa water level ng reservior ok lang, as long puno lagi ang main radiator. Pag malamig na engine babalik yung tubig sa container. Why did you replace the thermostat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie
    Kuya Mc.

    Ok lang po yon, as long as walang leak. In case, pwede niyo gamitin ang yellow folder, just cut the shape of the gasket then put a thin layer of silicon. Or you can buy a sheet at 25 pesos per feet. Doon naman sa water level ng reservior ok lang, as long puno lagi ang main radiator. Pag malamig na engine babalik yung tubig sa container. Why did you replace the thermostat?
    thanks Ramon. pinalagyan ko na ng silicon last friday. so far, ok na yung level ng reservoir. pero observe ko parin mga 2 week pa to make sure na hindi na nababawasan yung coolant. nagpalit ako ng thermostat kasi less than 1/4 yung temp reading ng gauge before kahit matagal na umaandar yung engine. after napalitan naging almost 1/2 na sya at mabilis na uminit yung engine. i got this advice from the gurus here also.

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    where can i buy a brand new or surplus efi electronic injection pump for a 4jg2 engine? preferrably with the computer box? need help... please text me at 09157667777

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    4JGtootsie; how much pala bili nyo sa subic 4jg2 engine? kasama tranny/x-case?TIA

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    Kuya Niwde11,

    75k kasama alternator, ac comp power steering pump, automatic transmission, transfer case, front prop shaft, computer box at exhaust pipe until flexi hose. Mabait yung seller at madaling kausap and gave us a good price, spare engine niya lang he has two bighorns. inalas namin agad EFI because that is the reason we bought the engine.

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    #18
    wow, pwede ba sya wala efi(i.e. subic 4jg2)? pinatatanong kasi pinsan ko kung sakaling bumigay at malaki gastos ng 4jx1 e baka palitan nya na lang daw ng 4jg2.

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    Mapapamahal siya, 30-35K ang EFI, nag decide kami bilhin ang engine for emergancy spares like turbo (30k) and the head(40k). Mahirap humanap ng 4JG2 kaya on the spot binili na namin. but i think 90k ang presyo ngayon. Sabihin ko sayo kung may makita ako.

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    #20
    Hanep may bagong 4JG2 expert tayo dito ah...4jgtootsie welcome!
    Teka when can we set the EB ba. Pwed ba kayo next saturday? Maybe we can set it na sa Tiendesitas. Or there's this new place sa Ortigas Home Depot along Julia Vargas Ave. Name is Jayjay's. 24 hours open yun so I'm thinking maybe we can have breakfast there on a saturday or Sunday...???

    4jgtootsie: Can you PM me your cell number? Better kung may sun cell po kayo. Hehe just in case may mga questions ako regarding my trooper. Thanks.

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