Shocked with LTO registration hyudai elantra

[Egan101]

Well, if you feel like the LTO MVUC cost is a burden, you can sell the car and get a lighter one that fits the small/light classification of LTO, like a Vios or City or Fiesta or Mazda2.

If you do like the car, you can always live with the small annual burden of its registration. It is a small cost compared to maintenance, fuel, and toll costs of the car within a year.

If you think it is better to get a midsize car for the sake of the similar LTO MVUC cost, then go get a midsize car. They offer a much better ride, better interior space, and more powerful engines. Just don't go out complaining that they are not fuel efficient and maintenance is more expensive.

[jut703]

tumpak!

kaya nga ako nag compact car eh kasi i dont want to pay for any premiums. pero if government is going to charge me the same as premium cars eh lugi naman. they should have made the compact cars and subcompact cars distinct from the full and mid sized cars.

i think this is because government just wants go get more money for stealing purposes....

I don't know if you even read the links posted in this thread of yours. There are 3 passenger car classifications - Light, Medium, Heavy.

Ther are segregated by gross vehicle weight:

Light: 0 to 1600 kg GVW
Medium: 1600 to 2300 kg GVW
Heavy: 2300 kg GVW and above

Back in the day, compacts fit the Light category. But because compacts today are bigger and heavier than midsize sedans 15 years ago (RA 8794 was made in 2000), they have moved to the Medium category. Both compacts and midsizers share the Medium category. If the next generation of Camrys and Accords become even heavier, they might move to the Heavy category, but until that happens, they'll both be Medium and there's nothing wrong with that.

You complaining that your MVUC is the same as a Camry is as pointless as someone complaining why his Wigo is chaged the same MVUC as a Vios even if the former is lighter.

At the end of the day, you're whining over something so trivial, but Egan's post pretty much sums up your only options:

Well, if you feel like the LTO MVUC cost is a burden, you can sell the car and get a lighter one that fits the small/light classification of LTO, like a Vios or City or Fiesta or Mazda2.

If you do like the car, you can always live with the small annual burden of its registration. It is a small cost compared to maintenance, fuel, and toll costs of the car within a year.

If you think it is better to get a midsize car for the sake of the similar LTO MVUC cost, then go get a midsize car. They offer a much better ride, better interior space, and more powerful engines. Just don't go out complaining that they are not fuel efficient and maintenance is more expensive.

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[rmolivar]

It's indicated in the CR that elantra is classified as mid-sized car so this should not be a surprise.

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[dr. d]

It's indicated in the CR that elantra is classified as mid-sized car so this should not be a surprise.

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i think the CR indicates only the engine displacement and the vehicle weights. as to what vehicle category (small, medium, large), we have to consult the LTO tabulations.

[rmolivar]

i think the CR indicates only the engine displacement and the vehicle weights. as to what vehicle category (small, medium, large), we have to consult the LTO tabulations.

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[dr. d]

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so that's what that block meant! in my 2005 CR, that block is empty! they did not bother to put anything in the space!
and in my older car, i.e., 1997, that block does not exist.
ah well.. learned something new today.

[kimbon]

only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

[jut703]

only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

Quite a negative way to look at it. It has nothing to do with the LTO being stupid or corrupt.

The LTO's vehicle classification is based on gross vehicle weight ranges. As posted previously, if GVW is above 1600 kg, it's automatically classified as medium.

With the way cars are becoming porkier every generation, most compacts will really fall into the medium category. 😊

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[niky]

It's really amazing how much bigger cars are, nowadays. You only have to look so far as the Mitsubishi Mirage to see this... it has the same passenger volume as a mid-90's Civic.

The Nissan Almera and Honda Jazz have more passenger space than a mid-00's Civic.

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We have to stop thinking of sub-compact, compact and midsize as being attached to the nameplates. The cars badged with yesterday's compact nameplates have grown. That's why there are new compacts below them. And those compacts have grown, which is why you have new subcompacts below them... and etcetera... etcetera... etcetera.

Who wants to bet that in a decade, the Brio will be as big as the very first Jazz?

[leonleon]

I guess it's the principle of the matter. Bente-Singko sentimos nga may nagpatayan ayon sa tabloid.

[leonleon]

We have to stop thinking of sub-compact, compact and midsize as being attached to the nameplates. The cars badged with yesterday's compact nameplates have grown. That's why there are new compacts below them. And those compacts have grown, which is why you have new subcompacts below them... and etcetera... etcetera... etcetera.

Dapat yung mga motoring "experts" ang mag-umpisa ng pagbabago. Last I read, motoring journalists still refer to the Elantra as a compact car.

[Egan101]

Dapat yung mga motoring "experts" ang mag-umpisa ng pagbabago. Last I read, motoring journalists still refer to the Elantra as a compact car.

There is a global approach adapted in vehicle classification. Autoindustriya published an article on it. Compact cars are under the C-segment.

http://www.autoindustriya.com/featur...-segments.html

However, each country has its own governing policies in vehicle registration. In the case of our local LTO, vehicles are classified with respect to its gross weight.

[dr. d]

only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

i think they know.
if memory serves right, there was confusion before, as to what criteria are to be used.. weight versus engine displacement. i believe they finally decided on vehicle weight, to make it easy and non-controversial.
it is us-the-carowners, who do not bother... basta punta sa LTO, stencil.. wait for name to be called, pay the amount told us, and leave, happy the experience is over.

[rmolivar]

only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

In fairness to LTO, I recall reading in early reviews that elantra is indeed classified as midsize car even in north america. That's why it didn't come as a surprise to me when I saw it as such in the LTO-issued CR.

[jmpet626]

Hi all,

i just had my hyundai elantra registered for the first time since the 3 year inclusive LTO registration. now i am shocked that my lto registration amounted to P4,129.00

but out of the cars i have owned, civic, altis. i have never paid more than P3,000.00

sabi ng LTO kasi CAR MEDIUM and category. eh ang point ko eh 1.6 lang yan kalevel ng civic at corolla altis. bakit charge mo ako ng level ng accord at camry.

anong klaseng kabalastugan to?!?!?!?!?!?

Yung Sonata YF ko na 2.4 sir ganyan rehistro.

[zoomzoom]

mas mahal talaga pag medium category.

Private And Government Vehicles

CATEGORIES GVW RATES

PASSENGER CARS (ageless)


LIGHT GVW
up to 1600kg Php 1,600.00

MEDIUM
1601 to 2300kg 3,600.00

HEAVY
2301kg & above 8,000.00

UTILITY VEHICLES
GVW up to 2700kg Php 2,000.00
2701 to 4500kg

2,000.00

plus 0.40 x GVW in excess of 2700kg

SPORTS UTILITY VEHICLES

(for models 1991 & above)

GVW up to 2700kg Php 2,300.00
2701 to 4500kg

2,300.00

plus 0.46 x GVW in excess of 2700kg

SCHEDULE OF MOTOR VEHICLE USER’S CHARGE PURSUANT TO R.A. 8794 AND OTHER FEES AND CHARGES

[JohnM]

Bumibigat na rin talaga ang mga oto ngayon with all the newfangled electronic and safety doodads.

And when you compare the subcompacts of today to the compacts a generation ago halos singlaki na sila.

[yebo]

the lto uses gvw as the basis because road use (or its wear and tear, cost of maintenance) is more directly proportional to the weight of the vehicle than its size.

[zoomzoom]

the lto uses gvw as the basis because road use (or its wear and tear, cost of maintenance) is more directly proportional to the weight of the vehicle than its size.

Pero yung mas mabigat na utility vehicles and SUV's (up to 4500 kgs. GVW), mas mura pa ang singil, nasa 2,000 kesos lang or thereabouts:

UTILITY VEHICLES
GVW up to 2700kg Php 2,000.00
2701 to 4500kg

2,000.00

plus 0.40 x GVW in excess of 2700kg

SPORTS UTILITY VEHICLES

(for models 1991 & above)

GVW up to 2700kg Php 2,300.00
2701 to 4500kg

2,300.00

plus 0.46 x GVW in excess of 2700kg

[dr. d]

Pero yung mas mabigat na utility vehicles and SUV's (up to 4500 kgs. GVW), mas mura pa ang singil, nasa 2,000 kesos lang or thereabouts:

oo nga. i find that, "funny".
i would have charged according to weight, 'ala passenger car. after all, whether passenger car or utility vehicle, its heavier weight does translate roughly to road wear and tear. i would not have created a "utility vehicle" category at all, and just used the passenger car category.