Second Gen. Honda Jazz/Fit

[maloyski25]

diba pag marami kang sinama sa renewal ng insurance like CF hood, Mags, etc.. magmamahal ang insurance na babayaran mo for the year? tama ba ako?

[pcuerpo]

Jay, yun lang ba maganda pag iridium? may iba pa bang gain in using iridium spark plugs?

[imogen]

diba pag marami kang sinama sa renewal ng insurance like CF hood, Mags, etc.. magmamahal ang insurance na babayaran mo for the year? tama ba ako?

oo sir tumataas depende sa declared value mo ng mga accessories, kase on top yon nung declared value ng stock mo.. parang ad ons talaga sya lilitaw. yung aken umabot ng 770K with accessories yung declared value.

Jay, yun lang ba maganda pag iridium? may iba pa bang gain in using iridium spark plugs?

sabi nila mas matipid sa gas dahil mas consistent daw yung spark,, first time ko rin kase mag iridium plugs.. boss maiba lang ako, nasaan yung mga stock iridium plugs mo? so far wala pa namang 5years old na GE eh. so dapat kahit na pinaservice mo na yan ng ilang beses, di parin dapat pinalitan stock plugs mo.

[bayen]

heres an interesting thought, can i use diesel oil on a gas engine?

some facts about additives -

ZINC - over 1200ppm zinc is pretty good protection
CALCIUM - which is used for cleaning your engine
MOLY and BORON - Friction protection

Most Diesel Engine oil have CI-4, CJ-4 API Rating, and contains lots of those additive mentioned above. so am thinking, if diesel engine oils are packed with those additives, why not use it for gas engines?

[pcuerpo]

boss Bry, parang ang dami mong oras at ang lalalim ng mga research mo hahaha kahit yung mga filter at oil... lupit mo surrrr!

Jay, yup, nasaakin naman yung pinapalitan na spark plugs pero di siya iridium... never pako nag-iridium... babalak nga ako mag iridium pero iniisip ko, kung yun lang ang pros in using iridium spark plugs (which is yung longer lifespan), parang mas contented ako na pinapalitan everytime yung spark plugs, para at least palaging bago pero since you mentioned about other positive things in using iridium which is yung consistency, baka next service ko, eto na palagay ko... tapos gawin ko na lang yearly na ang palit ko or every other service

[pcuerpo]

btw, iridium ba ang stock spark plugs ng GE? kasi kung ganon, maybe thats naka ilang service din ako bago nagstart magpalit ng spark plugs kasi ever since na first palitan siya, every service ko, pinapalitan na

[imogen]

heres an interesting thought, can i use diesel oil on a gas engine?

some facts about additives -

ZINC - over 1200ppm zinc is pretty good protection
CALCIUM - which is used for cleaning your engine
MOLY and BORON - Friction protection

Most Diesel Engine oil have CI-4, CJ-4 API Rating, and contains lots of those additive mentioned above. so am thinking, if diesel engine oils are packed with those additives, why not use it for gas engines?

actually bro sa older engines mas okay ang diesel oil, like mobil delvac, and caltex delo 500
may nabasa ako before na masama ang zinc with new cars dahil nakakasira ng catalytic converter.. kaya mga oils ngayon patented ZDDP nire-release nila that has better protection with the catalytic converter..

maiba lang ako, bakit di ko mahanap yung motul H-Tech100 sa site ng motul? if you search it through google lilitaw sya, pero pag tinignan mo sya through the list of products sa site nila, wala sya.

[imogen]

boss Bry, parang ang dami mong oras at ang lalalim ng mga research mo hahaha kahit yung mga filter at oil... lupit mo surrrr!

Jay, yup, nasaakin naman yung pinapalitan na spark plugs pero di siya iridium... never pako nag-iridium... babalak nga ako mag iridium pero iniisip ko, kung yun lang ang pros in using iridium spark plugs (which is yung longer lifespan), parang mas contented ako na pinapalitan everytime yung spark plugs, para at least palaging bago pero since you mentioned about other positive things in using iridium which is yung consistency, baka next service ko, eto na palagay ko... tapos gawin ko na lang yearly na ang palit ko or every other service

btw, iridium ba ang stock spark plugs ng GE? kasi kung ganon, maybe thats naka ilang service din ako bago nagstart magpalit ng spark plugs kasi ever since na first palitan siya, every service ko, pinapalitan na

sir wala pa naman 5years ang GE mo, di ka parin naman siguro nakaka 100K Kms. I don't know kung 3years or 5years ang lifespan nya by age, pero by mileage 100K Kms sya. so kung mga 1year old palang GE mo nung pinalitan yan, atleast may 2years pa silang natitira bago masira talaga. ipabalik mo nalang yung stock mo sir, Iridium alam ko stock ng GE unless mga nauna eh hindi Iridium. saken kase upon confirmation kay boss Dan, Iridium aken.

[bayen]

boss Bry, parang ang dami mong oras at ang lalalim ng mga research mo hahaha kahit yung mga filter at oil... lupit mo surrrr!

Jay, yup, nasaakin naman yung pinapalitan na spark plugs pero di siya iridium... never pako nag-iridium... babalak nga ako mag iridium pero iniisip ko, kung yun lang ang pros in using iridium spark plugs (which is yung longer lifespan), parang mas contented ako na pinapalitan everytime yung spark plugs, para at least palaging bago pero since you mentioned about other positive things in using iridium which is yung consistency, baka next service ko, eto na palagay ko... tapos gawin ko na lang yearly na ang palit ko or every other service

hahaha! sorry na-adik na kasi ako sa kakabasa on engine maintenance and care. and i just want to be more informed about it. Honda based on their manual, recommends that we have the car checked every 6 months, change oil, etc. so naisip ko why? so thats when my quest started i got curious with the filters they are using, ano ba yung nasa loob? good thing there are so many info you can find on the web about this one, like the type of element they use, which one is good and which one is not. turns out, even if you use good quality oil, kung olats naman yung filter, wala din. kagad din macocontaminate at mag breakdown. naisip ko lang, sayang kasi e, you shell out 2K-3K on oil, then skimp on the oil filter, parang wala din.

just to compare, high quality oil filters like a baldwin or Fleet guard is somewhere around the 300-500 price range, OEM nasa 329, almost the same price lang pero the baldwin or fleetguard can hold up to 4 times the amount of dirt and other nasty stuff which causes engine wear. bottom line, WAY BETTER filtration, which in turn allows you to now extend Oil Change Interval to 10,000 to 12,000 KM. yun pala yung winning formula for extended OCI,

Good Quality oil with high API Rating + Good Quality Filter = Extended Oil Change Interval = Savings.

Heres another thing i realized, Additives and API ratings are more important than mineral vs synthetic.

kaya mga fellow GE owners i highly suggest, wag kayo magtipid sa oil filter. Its a small thing i know pero plays a vital role in maintaining the quality of "blood" (oil) that goes through our cars engine.

Pau, sayang yung stock iridium mo. pwede pa yung am sure. based on the maintenance booklet, 100,000 KM before replace yung iridium.
ordinary plugs with regular cleaning every oil change kaya hangang 10K. well.. since mura lang sya i guess okay lang regularly palitan.

[bayen]

actually bro sa older engines mas okay ang diesel oil, like mobil delvac, and caltex delo 500
may nabasa ako before na masama ang zinc with new cars dahil nakakasira ng catalytic converter.. kaya mga oils ngayon patented ZDDP nire-release nila that has better protection with the catalytic converter..

maiba lang ako, bakit di ko mahanap yung motul H-Tech100 sa site ng motul? if you search it through google lilitaw sya, pero pag tinignan mo sya through the list of products sa site nila, wala sya.

hindi ba dahil kaya binaba na recently sa mga bagong langis yung ZINC content is to comply with the environmental guidelines? so lower Zinc content, more favorable to the Cat Converter. Papanong nakakasira ang Zinc sa Cat converter?

true. i've done the same search. Motul Htech 100 hindi ko din makita sa website nila. puro yung mga bagong line up na.i have no clue why.

[pcuerpo]

prob is, pinalitan na ata yun last 3-4 service ko pa so di ko na alam kung nasaan na yun

[pcuerpo]

baka may naghahanap ng rezing rezing muffler, nakita ko lang sa Sulit...

Honda Jazz GE8 Japan Blitz Muffler for sale (weird, ayaw malagay yung link ng maayos, search niyo na lang yan sa Sulit )

mura din benta niya for a bolt-on muffler

[imogen]

hindi ba dahil kaya binaba na recently sa mga bagong langis yung ZINC content is to comply with the environmental guidelines? so lower Zinc content, more favorable to the Cat Converter. Papanong nakakasira ang Zinc sa Cat converter?

true. i've done the same search. Motul Htech 100 hindi ko din makita sa website nila. puro yung mga bagong line up na.i have no clue why.

wah wag moko tanungin dyan, tinatanong kita dun sa message ko, hahaha!

eto napabasa ako tuloy, hahaha! pero di ko mahanap yung nakita ko dati.. sabi nila dun sa nakita ko ngayon, yung phosporous in ZDDP(AKA Zinc) nakakasama dahil nagiging vapor that goes through the PCV system, then to the combustion chamber, then to the exhaust system and coats the catalytic converter.

tapos eto yung nabasa ko naman sa isang Zinc Replacement ad:

In an effort to extend the life of catalytic converters, the EPA and the OEM engine manufacturers have instructed the motor oil companies to reduce the levels of ZDDP (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) in the oil. The ZDDP, when present in the exhaust gas, can coat the catalyst which results in higher emissions and shortens the service life of the catalytic converter. This reduced ZDDP approach works well to protect the catalytic converters but leaves many older and high performance engines without the proper EP (extreme pressure) wear protection they need to protect the cams, lifters and rocker arms. Virtually all non-roller cam designed engines are at risk for significant wear problems.

Zinc Replacement Additive


naging conscious pala ako dyan sa zinc na yan nung nakita ko tong oil na to:
Royal Purple API-licensed Motor Oil - Royal Purple

nabasa ko rin kase nung una na higher ZDDP better protection, pero nung nabasa ko yung patented ZDDP to protect the expensive catalytic converter, nun ako nagresearch sa royal purple,, andami ko nakitang away sa forums non dahil dyan sa ZDDP ng royal purple.
tsaka yung royal purple na yan for vehicles under warranty. meron kase Royal purple high performance street oil na mas mataas ang ZDDP but not recommended for vehicles under warranty.

HPS

weird lang, kung nakakasama yan sa catalytic converter, why do they recommend it for vehicles that are not under warranty anymore? para hindi sila masisi pag nasira catalytic converter ng mga under warranty pa?

[imogen]

prob is, pinalitan na ata yun last 3-4 service ko pa so di ko na alam kung nasaan na yun

boss kaka confirm ko lang kay boss Dan sa honda, 5years or 100k Kms whichever comes first ang replacement ng stock spark plugs ng GE. kaya sir hanapin mo na yung stock, sayang! hihihi! kung ayaw mo na gamitin, welcome na welcome mong itapon papunta saken

[imogen]

hahaha! sorry na-adik na kasi ako sa kakabasa on engine maintenance and care. and i just want to be more informed about it. Honda based on their manual, recommends that we have the car checked every 6 months, change oil, etc. so naisip ko why? so thats when my quest started i got curious with the filters they are using, ano ba yung nasa loob? good thing there are so many info you can find on the web about this one, like the type of element they use, which one is good and which one is not. turns out, even if you use good quality oil, kung olats naman yung filter, wala din. kagad din macocontaminate at mag breakdown. naisip ko lang, sayang kasi e, you shell out 2K-3K on oil, then skimp on the oil filter, parang wala din.

just to compare, high quality oil filters like a baldwin or Fleet guard is somewhere around the 300-500 price range, OEM nasa 329, almost the same price lang pero the baldwin or fleetguard can hold up to 4 times the amount of dirt and other nasty stuff which causes engine wear. bottom line, WAY BETTER filtration, which in turn allows you to now extend Oil Change Interval to 10,000 to 12,000 KM. yun pala yung winning formula for extended OCI,

Good Quality oil with high API Rating + Good Quality Filter = Extended Oil Change Interval = Savings.

Heres another thing i realized, Additives and API ratings are more important than mineral vs synthetic.

kaya mga fellow GE owners i highly suggest, wag kayo magtipid sa oil filter. Its a small thing i know pero plays a vital role in maintaining the quality of "blood" (oil) that goes through our cars engine.

Pau, sayang yung stock iridium mo. pwede pa yung am sure. based on the maintenance booklet, 100,000 KM before replace yung iridium.
ordinary plugs with regular cleaning every oil change kaya hangang 10K. well.. since mura lang sya i guess okay lang regularly palitan.

bro yung oil filter ha?

[bayen]

wah wag moko tanungin dyan, tinatanong kita dun sa message ko, hahaha!

eto napabasa ako tuloy, hahaha! pero di ko mahanap yung nakita ko dati.. sabi nila dun sa nakita ko ngayon, yung phosporous in ZDDP(AKA Zinc) nakakasama dahil nagiging vapor that goes through the PCV system, then to the combustion chamber, then to the exhaust system and coats the catalytic converter.

tapos eto yung nabasa ko naman sa isang Zinc Replacement ad:

In an effort to extend the life of catalytic converters, the EPA and the OEM engine manufacturers have instructed the motor oil companies to reduce the levels of ZDDP (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) in the oil. The ZDDP, when present in the exhaust gas, can coat the catalyst which results in higher emissions and shortens the service life of the catalytic converter. This reduced ZDDP approach works well to protect the catalytic converters but leaves many older and high performance engines without the proper EP (extreme pressure) wear protection they need to protect the cams, lifters and rocker arms. Virtually all non-roller cam designed engines are at risk for significant wear problems.

Zinc Replacement Additive


naging conscious pala ako dyan sa zinc na yan nung nakita ko tong oil na to:
Royal Purple API-licensed Motor Oil - Royal Purple

nabasa ko rin kase nung una na higher ZDDP better protection, pero nung nabasa ko yung patented ZDDP to protect the expensive catalytic converter, nun ako nagresearch sa royal purple,, andami ko nakitang away sa forums non dahil dyan sa ZDDP ng royal purple.
tsaka yung royal purple na yan for vehicles under warranty. meron kase Royal purple high performance street oil na mas mataas ang ZDDP but not recommended for vehicles under warranty.

HPS

weird lang, kung nakakasama yan sa catalytic converter, why do they recommend it for vehicles that are not under warranty anymore? para hindi sila masisi pag nasira catalytic converter ng mga under warranty pa?

ahh... yun pala yun. hehehe!
ano kaya acceptable levels ng ZDDP sa oil then?

Madami ako stock sa bahay nung Baldwin bro. kapag kita tayo magdala ako.

[jun_mazda]

mga sir baka meron sa inyo gusto bumili ng carbon fiber hood sa jdm select? bka sakali makadiscount tayo ng medyo malaki pag bumili tayo as a group. just a suggestion

[sabawballs]

grabe ang lalim na ng pinaguusapan niyo though good read.. parang nangangalahati palang ako sa post ni bayen tapos parang biglang naging chinese character na lahat ahhahahaah!

[bayen]

grabe ang lalim na ng pinaguusapan niyo though good read.. parang nangangalahati palang ako sa post ni bayen tapos parang biglang naging chinese character na lahat ahhahahaah!

hahaha! sorry paps. simple lang naman yung diskusyon namin ni imogen sa taas. kung okay ba gamitin ang diesel oil sa gas engine naten? ang formulation kasi ng diesel oil in terms of content mas maganda for the engine, except for yung zinc na bad pala for the catalytic converter. upon further reading acceptable levels pala neto basta hindi lalagpas ng 1200 PPM okay lang. hehehe

[Tatzkie]

*Tatzkie

kung mabasa mo man to, sayo ba yung GE na nakapark sa may paseo center ngayon, may mugen sticker sa side, coding mo bukas?

Papi, pasensya na, hahah, ngayon lang ka online. Anyways, parang hindi ako yun paps, kasi sa valero 2 parking ako plagi. Dyan kasi sa may Paseo Center, dollar yung parking. hahaha.