Will there be another SiR?

[JCBalunsat]

I've been thinking about this a lot.

Will there be another SiR release out in the Market? A car that can go fast with small displacement and practically cheap?

This was a good move by Honda and critics rated it good back when it was realeased. I know that the game right now is fuel economy but then wouldn't you wish that Honda or any other car maker would make a car like this again?

I really would wish that this would come true for the reasons:

1. To depreciate the current SiR. It's still being sold * 350k -400k to think that it was only sold * 700k brand new.
2. For us to play around with the new one rather than adding unnecessary mods to the older SiR.

For the gurus out there, do you hear anything from anyone regarding this?

[mazingerZ]

I think the Honda Civic 2.0S na ang naging kapalit ng SIR.

[JCBalunsat]

I think the Honda Civic 2.0S na ang naging kapalit ng SIR.

I've heard that M/T variants were limited for this and A/T is the only one released right now. Also, it ain't cheap. It's more than a mil afaik.

[tidus1203]

I've heard that M/T variants were limited for this and A/T is the only one released right now. Also, it ain't cheap. It's more than a mil afaik.

I can already forsee the 2.0S M/T (Racing Blue color in particular) will be the next SiR price-wise in the 2nd hand market. Its so rare, I only see one once in a blue moon...

Yes cars right now are more expensive na than before. Because our money is worth less and less as time goes by because of our central bank....

[mbeige]

In other countries such as Japan, the US, UK, etc there's a Civic Si though not an SiR it follows along the same or similar lineage.

[tidus1203]

Pareho lang yun, tinangal lang yung R. Basically its just a sports version too...

[mbeige]

Actually I was thinking about the SiR vs Si subject, and it seems the Si models are only two door hatches or coupes, while the SiR is a four door sedan.

[Memphis Raines]

To depreciate the current SiR? Hardly I think since the current B16A equipped rockets have already become classics in their own right, especially the non-modified ones. And as we all know, true classics come at a price.

The 700k sticker price was introductory but remember that it quickly escalated to the 998k mark when the demand picked-up in 1998. Overpriced today? Ask how much is the current asking price for a Corolla AE86.

[JCBalunsat]

To depreciate the current SiR? Hardly I think since the current B16A equipped rockets have already become classics in their own right, especially the non-modified ones. And as we all know, true classics come at a price.

The 700k sticker price was introductory but remember that it quickly escalated to the 998k mark when the demand picked-up in 1998. Overpriced today? Ask how much is the current asking price for a Corolla AE86.

AE86? The Trueno? As far as I know, Cebu has a lot of them they're selling for like 200k. For a 20+ car, yes it is overpriced.

Well sana lang maglabas na sila. Gusto ko din kasi ulit makakita ng bagong race car. Hehe. (Also, to depreciate the car so that I could buy one. )

[redorange]

Actually I was thinking about the SiR vs Si subject, and it seems the Si models are only two door hatches or coupes, while the SiR is a four door sedan.

Wasn't the RP SiR the equivalent of the US Si models except the US had coupes? The current Si has a 4 door sedan model for the US maybe they can bring that instead or is it the same car as the 2.0 w/o the SiR/Si designation.

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-si-sedan/

[mbeige]

Redorange good point on the new Si, I was thinking along those same lines about the US Si and RP SiR of the same generation. I think they were the equivalents per their respective markets.

(Also, to depreciate the car so that I could buy one. )

I knew it! I knew it!

Over rated daw o, sour grape ka lang

Oops OT... haha

[Memphis Raines]

Well sana lang maglabas na sila. Gusto ko din kasi ulit makakita ng bagong race car. Hehe. (Also, to depreciate the car so that I could buy one. )

+1 on this. It is about time that we get a chance at a new toy rocket with the same blast proof engine. I took interest in the stock 2006 Si with 197bhp which does the 60 in under 7 seconds. That's enough neck snapping power for me so imagine you put on additional mods the possibilities are endless!

[Type 100]

A new SiR?

Not until we see the K-series engines become cheap enough to become a viable tuning platform for Pinoys. K20A engines in high-horse tune are NOT cheap; they run easily more than double the price of an equivalent B16A/B.

Sour graping na lang tayo hanggang mangyari yan.

JC: And here I was, convinced you were lambasting the old EK4 SiR. Tsk. Closet desire mo rin pala magkaroon ng isa.

[[archie]]

i think there will be a successor for the SiR but not anytime soon...

[JCBalunsat]

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Redorange good point on the new Si, I was thinking along those same lines about the US Si and RP SiR of the same generation. I think they were the equivalents per their respective markets.



I knew it! I knew it!

Over rated daw o, sour grape ka lang

Oops OT... haha

A new SiR?

Not until we see the K-series engines become cheap enough to become a viable tuning platform for Pinoys. K20A engines in high-horse tune are NOT cheap; they run easily more than double the price of an equivalent B16A/B.

Sour graping na lang tayo hanggang mangyari yan.

JC: And here I was, convinced you were lambasting the old EK4 SiR. Tsk. Closet desire mo rin pala magkaroon ng isa.

I know I know. I want it. I think should be bashing the owners I guess. Not the car. The Ek4 will be one of my targets but I'm happy with my EK right now. Even if I cannot beat an SiR, I still have the next best thing to it.

[mazingerZ]

JC,

Whats the fascination with SIR anyway? Have noticed most of your threads are SIR related. . .

[AG4]

The current equivalent of the old B16 powered SiR and USDM Si is the new 197hp 2.0 liter Civic Si which is only sold in North America and Brazil.
Gray market price for a Civic Si is around P1.98M.

If they were to make an ASEAN spec model(SiR) it would probably cost around P1.4M+.

Civic Si sedan (North America).


Civic Si sedan (Brazil)

[Si 06]

+1 on this. It is about time that we get a chance at a new toy rocket with the same blast proof engine. I took interest in the stock 2006 Si with 197bhp which does the 60 in under 7 seconds. That's enough neck snapping power for me so imagine you put on additional mods the possibilities are endless!

The Si does not have the neck snapping torque you thought it has. It is quite tiring to drive when you are in search of power because you have to rev past 6,200rpm to engage the i-vtec which will easily bring you to the 8,000rpm rev limit where the limiter will kick in. The vtec engagement point should be brought down to maybe 4,500 or 5,000rpm so the "fun" starts earlier. For around $2,000 more get a Mazdaspeed3 and you'll always have that smile knowing you made the right decision. The neck snapping torque from the 263 "claimed" hp will always be around. The resale value may not be there but who cares when you have fun at your disposal. I would just like to share experiences and do not in any way like to hurt the feelings of fellow Honda owners.

[Jun aka Pekto]

The Si does not have the neck snapping torque you thought it has. It is quite tiring to drive when you are in search of power because you have to rev past 6,200rpm to engage the i-vtec which will easily bring you to the 8,000rpm rev limit where the limiter will kick in. The vtec engagement point should be brought down to maybe 4,500 or 5,000rpm so the "fun" starts earlier. For around $2,000 more get a Mazdaspeed3 and you'll always have that smile knowing you made the right decision. The neck snapping torque from the 263 "claimed" hp will always be around. The resale value may not be there but who cares when you have fun at your disposal. I would just like to share experiences and do not in any way like to hurt the feelings of fellow Honda owners.

That what makes turbos so fun. That "rush" of power never gets tiring.

If you want a Honda with anything to close to neck-snapping torque, get an Accord V6. For a Toyota, the V6 Camry would do fine.

[JCBalunsat]

JC,

Whats the fascination with SIR anyway? Have noticed most of your threads are SIR related. . .

POWER OVERWHELMING!