who's at fault??

[bratski]

one of my trucks recently was involved in an accident from a vehicle behind it. my truck was making a turn at an intersection and its rear bumper accidentally grazes the front turn signal lght of the vehicle following behind it. the damage caused a broken turn signal light and light scratches to the front fender of the following vehicle. the owner demanded that my driver pay for the damages. is my driver at fault? trucks are known to have a wide turning radius and the rear bumper or tail of trucks or large vehicles usually "swings" as they execute a turn. my take on this is the driver behind should've anticipated this and not follow closely (tutok) to a truck making a turn.who is right in this scenario?

[mbeige]

You're right in that the car behind you was too close and did not provide enough room for your truck to maneuver.

Tell your driver not to pay anything, since he's not at fault.

[ab_initio]

apparently, the car behind the truck is at fault but you need to check also the investigator's report. meantime, give instructions to your driver not to pay any...

[nurse_corrupted]

Di niya follow ang 2 second rule. Kasalanan niya yan.

[ghosthunter]

There is a rule that states you have to give enough space between you and the vehicle in front of you. Clearly enough, the car behind was at fault for tail-gating.

[Blizzard]

simple lang:
"Distansya Amigo"
common signs seen behind trucks..even small trucks like elf trucks.
pero kahit wala, alam na dapat ganun.

some trucks also has warning signs saying that don't get near them while making a turn.
But im puzzled coz the sign has a pic of a bicycle with a cross sign..

just don't pay anything muna
good luck.

[OTEP]

Other points to consider:

Was your driver in the correct lane before turning?
Did your driver explicitly signal his intention to turn?
What direction was your truck turning into?
Was the vehicle that came into contact with your truck on the 'inside' line or the 'outside' line of the truck's turn?

Sometimes I also get surprised. I'm minding my own business, just sitting on traffic on the other lane (left rear) of a long vehicle when it suddenly turns right and the tail end swings towards me. Wala akong kalaban laban, I'm just minding my own. Hindi naman ako si madam auring. So far naiiwasa ko pa naman.

[v6dreamer]

Wag kang masyadong dumikit baka ika'y sumabit. Aba eh!, sumabit nga.

Hindi na kasalanan yong truck driver yan. At saka may mga insurance naman kayo, bakit hindi yong insurance ang habulin niya at hindi yong driver na halos iksakto lang ang kita para sa araw araw na ika bubuhay.

Dapat yong driver ninyo ang magdimanda. Palabasin ninyo na siyay nagkaroon ng nervous breakdown dahil sa aksidente.

[ARB]

the one at fault is the car at the rear. siya ang ma ka kita so he could have taken measures to avoid the accident. rules yan na bago sa traffic accidents. like for example na i cut ka, the car at the back can see the car cutting so he has a chance to avoid the cutting car. this instance the truck driver does not have a clear view of the car following him on his blind side, the following car could have stopped or evaded the rear of the truck since he has a clear view.

[bratski]

regarding the accident, i was given an erroneous report of how things happened. turns out the accident happened as my driver was making a left turn at an intersection and the other vehicle was at the left side of the intersection.the rear bumper of the truck struck the left signal light of the L300 pickup. the pickup was moving forward even though the traffic light is red. a lot of bystanders saw the incident, my driver excercised caution when making the turn and gave enough space so that the truck won't hit the vehicle. unfortunately the vehicle kept moving forward so the trucks rear bumper struck the left signal light and grazed little part of the left front fender, unfortunately again both parties failed to get a police report as the driver of the L300 pickup was in a hurry. just yesterday he was pestering my driver and demanded that he be paid the damages.

[BoyBakaL]

I got a similar situation 10 years ago my flat bed truck with 16ft length was carrying a 20 ft steel bar.. my truck was about to turn left in a bumper to bumper situation along a busy 2lane-2 lane ortigas ave. where a bus at the back was tailgating it.. since its bumper to bumper and he saw my truck was about to turn left naturally he swerve to the right to overtake it.. as he swerve to the right he said he didn't see the signal sign because the taillight of my truck is under those steel bar which is only visible to a car or from a distance(naturally bcuz hes tailgating).. anyway as he swerve to the right keep moving forward my truck turned left the bars protruded the rear tire underside of the bus thus piercing to his engine at the back.. take note that intersection was being manned by a police and signaled my truck to turn left.

well they sued my driver and not me but they keep asking me money but i wont pay as im not driving it all being said the other party is messing the police report saying our fault.. a decade court hearing later still no verdict..

plus the damage report even balloned to 200t plus we didnt pay any cents.. the driver reported to the hearings and nothing happened till now..

in other words maghabol sya ng maghabol wala din sya mangyayari...
plus your safe naman i think your driver will inherit the problem..

[Gumusut_Amige]

regarding the accident, i was given an erroneous report of how things happened. turns out the accident happened as my driver was making a left turn at an intersection and the other vehicle was at the left side of the intersection.the rear bumper of the truck struck the left signal light of the L300 pickup. the pickup was moving forward even though the traffic light is red. a lot of bystanders saw the incident, my driver excercised caution when making the turn and gave enough space so that the truck won't hit the vehicle. unfortunately the vehicle kept moving forward so the trucks rear bumper struck the left signal light and grazed little part of the left front fender, unfortunately again both parties failed to get a police report as the driver of the L300 pickup was in a hurry. just yesterday he was pestering my driver and demanded that he be paid the damages.

bro, wala naman palang police report pabayaan mo na lang.
if i understood correctly... both vehicles are coming from different directions but your truck is making a left turn at the intersection. bakit nahagip yung left side ng L300 na hindi nadamay yung right bumper (parang napitik lang)? miscalculation ba o talagang masyadong labas na sa linya yung nguso ng L300 as stated dahil umabante sya kahit stop nga? kung ang L300 ay pasok sa yellow zone (intersection marker), kasalanan niya pero kung hindi sya lumagpas may tulog ang driver mo. pero kung wlang linya, yan ang mahirap dahil wala ngang report na basehan.

[Gumusut_Amige]

double post....

[bratski]

bro, wala naman palang police report pabayaan mo na lang.
if i understood correctly... both vehicles are coming from different directions but your truck is making a left turn at the intersection. bakit nahagip yung left side ng L300 na hindi nadamay yung right bumper (parang napitik lang)? miscalculation ba o talagang masyadong labas na sa linya yung nguso ng L300 as stated dahil umabante sya kahit stop nga? kung ang L300 ay pasok sa yellow zone (intersection marker), kasalanan niya pero kung hindi sya lumagpas may tulog ang driver mo. pero kung wlang linya, yan ang mahirap dahil wala ngang report na basehan.

my truck was coming from dapitan st (which is one way) he was turning left at the intersection(maceda st) at the green light.so its safe to assume that vehicles on maceda st are on a red light. the L300 was on the left side of maceda st(two way single lane street) awaiting their turn to go. however since the l300 was in a hurry, he kept inching forward even though he knew that my truck was negotiating the turn, if the L300 didn't inch forward my truck would've cleared the turn easily. the rear bumper of my truck grazed (sumabit) on the front left signal-corner light of the L300, (driver side ng L300).sorry for my confusing statement hehehe

[4JGtootsie]

Sabihin mo sa driver ng L300 na kakasuhan mo siya ng hit and run kung di siya tumigil sa pagkulit sa inyo. Nasa bumber pa ba ng truck ninyo pintura niya?

[aga_cruz]

hindi po ba nakta ng driver nyo yung van na masasabitan na nya?

[Gumusut_Amige]

my truck was coming from dapitan st (which is one way) he was turning left at the intersection(maceda st) at the green light.so its safe to assume that vehicles on maceda st are on a red light. the L300 was on the left side of maceda st(two way single lane street) awaiting their turn to go. however since the l300 was in a hurry, he kept inching forward even though he knew that my truck was negotiating the turn, if the L300 didn't inch forward my truck would've cleared the turn easily. the rear bumper of my truck grazed (sumabit) on the front left signal-corner light of the L300, (driver side ng L300).sorry for my confusing statement hehehe

ah okay, yun naman pala eh... siguradong labas na ang nguso ng L300 kasi imposibleng mahagip sya ng truck mo dahil palayo pala ang pagliko nya.
maigi siguro unahan mo na magbigay ng statement sa police kahit paano yung side mo ang mailalagay don.

[bratski]

hindi po ba nakta ng driver nyo yung van na masasabitan na nya?

nakita niya nung una na hindi naman sasabit since malayo yung gap. etong L300 kasi usad ng usad paabante kaya sumabit. maraming nakakita at sinasabi nung mga witness na abante nga ng abante yung L300 kaya tinamaan. balak siguro talaga manggantso nito. kasi dapat kung agrabyado siya tumawag siya ng police para sa report, kaso dinaan sa sindak yung driver ko. etong driver ko naman matatakutin. sabi ko nga wag bayaran. ang malas pa nito nakatira lang malapit sa amin yung may ari ng L300.

[badsekktor]

ganito ba ang illustration nung aksidente? di ko masyado ma-picture out yun scenario.... may center island ba yun maceda street?

[bratski]

ganito ba ang illustration nung aksidente? di ko masyado ma-picture out yun scenario.... may center island ba yun maceda street?

yep ganyang ganyan ang itsura. walang center island dun sa maceda st. nung paliko ang truck namin nasa tamang pwesto lang yung L300, kaso nung haos makumpleto na yung liko ng truck tsaka umabante si L300 kaya nasagi