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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yup they know selling China vehicles to the private sector would be tough so they went to the govt

    alam naman natin mahirap ka-deal ang gobyerno but those guys went ahead and became very successful

    sigurado katakot-takot na lobbying yan
    Instead of putting your marketing budget for ads and promos, ipinapangbayad nalang to get the contracts.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Pag-bidding kasi out na agad ang bias. As long as kumpleto ang requirements and lowest bid panalo. I'm still hoping na kasama sa budget ang parts and maintenance even for a few years para masulit naman.
    With gov't bidding, even if you are the lowest bidder and with a good product (and intent), hahanapan ka ng butas to give the contract to the "favored" supplier/contractor.

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    With gov't bidding, even if you are the lowest bidder and with a good product (and intent), hahanapan ka ng butas to give the contract to the "favored" supplier/contractor.
    I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt although their track record does not deserve it. Biddings are open to the public and on budgets this big I'm sure the media will be there watching. Let's see kung magreklamo ang losing bidders

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    Teka may final decision na ba? They have 30-45 days to create prototypes and only then will the bidding start:
    The DILG chief has tasked the officials of the PNP to come up with new specifications for the new vehicles it would bid out which include its fuel, engine displacement, horsepower, transmission among others.

    “On the part of the PNP, I will give them the challenge of coming out with new specs for the new vehicles to be procured, the attachment of roofing and convertible seats, with the end in view na walang question on their end, na walang bahid ng anomalya o kontrobersya” the DILG chief said.

    The car manufacturers interested in joining the bidding would be required to produce a prototype of the vehicle they would supply to the PNP.

    “We will give them (car dealers) 30 to 45 days to come up with their respective prototypes which they would present to the various PNP offices involved in the bidding,” he said.
    http://www.pia.gov.ph/news/index.php...e=261371778124
    Last edited by JohnM; June 27th, 2013 at 03:40 PM.

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    #33
    Panalong panalo sila sa bidding. Even without having to cut prices, they're already way below the Japanese brands, even if the distributors cut their income to 1-2%... whereas Foton could sell for close to consumer pricing (with maybe a few percent discount).

    And if they can sell that many at market price, of course, puwede pang i-bundle yan ng free servicing... five year contracts. (service, not oil and spares )

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #34
    Remember when Coca Cola Philippines picked Chery QQs as their fleet cars.......
    Its very hard to test durability, you arent really sure when its gonna break

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    #35
    Paging KIM HENARES and her goon squad to make sure these FOTON guys are paying the right tax (income, import, VAT, etc...)

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    Pag-bidding kasi out na agad ang bias. As long as kumpleto ang requirements and lowest bid panalo. I'm still hoping na kasama sa budget ang parts and maintenance even for a few years para masulit naman.
    Sa bidding hindi lahat ng pinakamababa ang panalo may clause dun na right to reject or something. kung sino ang mas pursigido yun ang panalo alam nyo naman sa mga supply officers lahat gagawin kumita lang ng malaki kaya nga tigil na din kami sa kabibid sayang lang oras pag may di ka napagbigyan tengga ang tseke mo.

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    #37
    kahit anong brand ang ibigay sa govt natin, mabubulok at mabubulok yan, kaya dun na lang sila sa mura

    ayos lang madali mabulok, edi bili uli bago ... ayos na uli bulsa nila

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    #38
    Same here... ang hirap pumasok dyan... gagstos ka pa sa bid docs. Ang tagal pa mag bayad...buwan ang aabutin ang transactions pati Payment, tapos parang ninong ka pa sa lahat.... then yung overprice, halos lahat naman napupunta din sakanila...

    pero kung private co. --- send ka bus. Proposal, kung ok... p.o. na sila... pag na deliver mo goods mo, cod na agad.. almost no waiting time... not even a day..

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    #39
    kaya bilib ako sa mga Foton guys na yan

    iwas nga kami ka-deal ang gobyerno

    join daw kami sa bidding may bayad agad sasali palang sa bidding

    nevermind

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    #40
    Pag ganyan ba sir uls... re. Foton pickup ... paano nila pinapasok dito yan?
    Fr. China galing yun dba? Considered truck din ba yun? Saan dumadaan? Sa subic ba?

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