^ have it modified like this:
Concrete Barrier Type 90
but make it Two (2) Steel Rails on top, instead of just One (1), increasing the height to 4' 3".
the more steel rails, the better.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/LandArch/ba...d_Barriers.pdf
^ have it modified like this:
Concrete Barrier Type 90
but make it Two (2) Steel Rails on top, instead of just One (1), increasing the height to 4' 3".
the more steel rails, the better.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/LandArch/ba...d_Barriers.pdf
mas maganda siguro stricter implementation of rules imbis na kung ano ano ginagawa na di naman effective. kung may nag iimplement ng batas yan mga sinasabi mo jay walking mawawala yan kahit di mo pa lagyan ng kung ano anong harang sa gitna ng kalsada. sa ibang bansa walang harang mga kalsada pero walang jay walking.ano next yung mga nahoholdap eh sasabihin natin wag kasi lumabas ng alanganin oras ng gabi para di kayo maholdap?
sa skyway/nlex/slex/tplex kasi ang hinuhuli jan eh overspeeding lang. reckless driving at iba pang mga violation di nila hinuhuli. dami jan reckless driving, meron pa ko mga na encounter bigla aatras kasi lumagpas sa exit nila meron din gabi di mo makita kasi di gumagana ilaw. no need to fix skyway dapat lang talaga stricter implementation of rules lang sigurado walang malalaglag jan.
Yes my point exactly, hindi siya yung reckless pero siya yung nahulog, dapat yung system na implemented ensured na mitigated ang mga ganyang risks. The management of skyway or any highway must ensure the safety of all users. We can say na kapag oras mo na oras mo na pero paano kung di mo pa oras pero naging baldado ka naman.
Naiinis lang talaga ako kapag nakikita ko yung management ng skyway sa TV na hugas kamay at mukhang wala ng balak pa gawin na aksiyon dahil reckless di umano yung driver ng mga naaksidente.
during accident investigation wala na eh, hugas kamay na kagad yung skyway.
yes, overspeeding si pakistani, pero dapat ba sya mahulog dun? pano na rin yung mga sasakyan/tao sa baba? mahirap alisin sa equation yung mga reckless drivers, IMO dapat kasama talaga yan sa pagplano.
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during accident investigation wala na eh, hugas kamay na kagad yung skyway.
yes, overspeeding si pakistani, pero dapat ba sya mahulog dun? pano na rin yung mga sasakyan/tao sa baba? mahirap alisin sa equation yung mga reckless drivers, IMO dapat kasama talaga yan sa pagplano.
Wew here we go again. Ok, sabihin na nating wala ng violators sa skyway. Yung tipong natuto na ang mga driver na dumadaan duon. Pwede mo bang isantabi at maging kampante ka na wala ng maaaksidente sa tulay na yon? Pano kung nabutas ang gulong ng SUV or TRAK na sumusunod naman sa max speed pero nawalan ng kontrol at nag dausdong sa mababang railings ng skyway at nahulog pababa ng skyway, tingin mo sir walang posibilidad na mahulog yung sasakyan pababa?
Let's face the reality, na may pagkukulang din naman na talaga interms of safety road designs yung skyway natin na halos 20 years (Out dated) ng nakatayo (Buendia - Bicutan) where falling vehicles accidents happens most. Although may mali yung driver, hindi dapat kelangan matapos lang duon sa makulong at bigyan ng danyos lang yung mga nadamay. Mauulit at mauulit ang ganyang pangyayari kung hindi taasan yang side wall. That bridge needs some improvement, hindi kailangan ang tao mag adjust pag nakita nilang may babagsak na sasakyan galing skyway.
Agree ako kay Ramones, i couldnt care less whether reckless drivers live or die ... But bottomline, di na dapat madamay yung mga nananahimik sa baba
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*OK lang sana kung TraPo ang mababagsakan ...
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Mula naitayo skyway, lagi na ako dumadaan dun. Ngayon lang naman may nahuhulog, kung may mali sa design sana nun una palang dami ng nahulig dyan. Kahit taasan ang pader kung may tarantandong driver, makakadamay at pwede parin makapatay sa skyway.
If tataasan ba yung pader pag nabunggo nang speeding 160kph na suv nde ba mawawasak yun at tuloy tuloy lang sya sa pgbagsak?
OT: meron ako nakita na prank para mag slowdown yung mga speeding motorista , merong mga showgirls sa island/ramps hehe
based dun sa link ng bridge railings guide ay di pwede sa 60kph and above yung may gutter or elevated portion between the road and rails.
If you really want to offer good service, then you must go the extra mile. Di pwedeng tatapusin na ang usapan sa 'based on international standards design' naman. Ilan milyon nakikinabang sa skyway na yan. Sana may continuous improvement din kung kayang kaya naman ng budget. Dun pa lang sa part na 'walang CCTV sa area na pinangyarihan ng accident' eh sablay na. Just my opinion. Kaso kung utak negosyante ka talaga eh.........
imo, kahit pa itaas yang bakod kung hindi makontrol yung mga reckless drivers ganun pa din. although kapag tinaasan yung barrier, maaring maiwasan may mahulog at ma-prevent yung further damage sa mga nasa ilalim pero ganun pa rin. lalo lang sila magiging reckless kasi alam na di na sila mahuhulogproper implementation lang ng speed limit yan at itaas ang multa sa mga pasaway. magbabagal naman yan kapag alam na mahuhuli sila at magbabayad ng malaking penalty.
They built it to be safe for most motorist. That's enough for me and my tax. I don't want my tax to be spent for a few reckless people to be safe. They spent this amount for the standard safety of 99% of motorist. I don't like them doubling the budget for the reckless 1%. And yeah, your condescending attitude doesn't help your point.
Why you gotta be so rude dude, don't you have a care for the innocent people who will get victimize by these kind of accidents? You are more concern for your tax to be given away to improve road safety? Until when will you realize that these kind of Outdated elevated highways (from bicutan-buendia) must renovate? When you or your love ones involved in this kind of incident and be a victim? I know that the skyway built with safe for the sake of the users plying along their highway, but hey bridges needs some update/upgrades too. Accidents happens anytime and we don't know when or who will be the next victim of these vehicles falling down either reckless or not.
Kahit anong arguments po dito sa topic thread...
Kung talagang walang "Strict Implementation" at "Improvements", History repeats itself....
kahit anong upgrades pa yan, kung "Lack of Discipline" Sa Driver, at "Implementation" ng Enforcer, and a Simple "Common-sense"
useless din....
So in summary, dapat, drivers' discipline, strict implementation of the law, & upgrade of the skyway railings.
Ayan....Wala na madidisgrasya at mahuhulog sa Skyway.![]()