Public Utility "Driver"

[Vmax]

Hi Guys, just wondering if the majority of public utility drivers (jeepney, bus, tricycle, taxi, pedicabs, "kulig-ligs") are doing their awful driving antics on purpose just to piss us off? I'm not trying to start a "class-war" here, but I just want to understand why they can't seem to follow the very basic traffic rules? I go downtown everyday to work (C. M. Recto area) and never ever experience a day when I don't witness a stupid/blatant act of driving by these so-called "drivers". I have tried to put myself in their shoes by driving 4 hours straight... yes, I was tired and angry at the end of the trip, could that be the reason why they don't care much about the law and fellow drivers/pedestrians?

[sirmykel]

thats what we called "professional drivers"
depende kasi sa gamit nilang sasakyan, kung pambarag ok lang pero
try mo silang pagamitin ng magagarang auv, suv at kotse magiging maingat sila

[space invader]

ang problem lang kse with these public utility drivers, napaka reckless talaga magmaneho since hindi kse sa kanila yung minamaneho nila.. sanay na ako sa mga ganyang klaseng PUV drivers.. walang disiplina.. kaya ako, hndi na ako nikipag gitgitan sa kanila.. eh wla nman sila maibabayad.. mahihirapan lang ako makipag areglo sa kanila..

[Innova_Boy]

The first and foremost of all is trying to get their BOUNDARY in the soonest possible time at all cost, so that what remains for the day will be the money he will bring home to his loved ones - "kabit"..... :D


WBR,

[Negus]

ang mga nakakainis yung patay ang headlight pag gabi. ala pang signal light.

[Syuryuken]

Marami kasi sa mga yan uneducated hindi nila alam ang do's and dont's sa kalye. Matakot ka pag nakahawak ng branded na mga sasakyan mga yan parang lumilipad ang sasakyan sa bilis nilang magpatakbo. Pero matatawa ka sa mga first timer na magmaneho ng branded na sasakyan binobombahan yung clutch at preno hehehe

[architect]

Guys, just a thought - instead of plain ranting, as most of us (including myself) are wont to do, why don't we use our collective minds to figure out possible solutions? After all, I am sure most of us are "experts" on the subject matter, having been victimized ten twenty or even a hundred times over.

[MAXBUWAYA]

solution is theres existing na, the problem is execution heheheheh

Pero may point nga yung kung maganda at maayos ang sasakyan nila, mag iingat sila. (Pero magbababa pa din sila sa gitna) hehehee

[niky]

The thing is, we already know the solution. The LTO should actually issue driving tests instead of printing licenses en masse. And the various traffic management authorities should do their damn job.

Take the regular jeepney driver. He's too poor to afford driving school, learned all he knows about driving from his dad or uncle...

He goes to the LTO, pays a little on the side to pass the written test. Takes the (pitifully short and easy) driving test. He's through. Without needing to demonstrate competence in highway maneuvers or in following the laws of the road.

Then he goes to work. He has to be aggressive to get passengers. Tailgates so other jeepney drivers don't jump him in line, drives fast to jump the line himself. Drops passengers off in the middle of the road so he can drive away quickly. Push other cars aside so he can meet his boundary.

He's doing exactly what he needs to do to be an efficient jeepney driver. Until the law tells him what he's doing is wrong, and until he's forced to show competence and politeness on the road to retain his license... that's the way it'll be.

[compact]

The thing is, we already know the solution. The LTO should actually issue driving tests instead of printing licenses en masse. And the various traffic management authorities should do their damn job.

Take the regular jeepney driver. He's too poor to afford driving school, learned all he knows about driving from his dad or uncle...

He goes to the LTO, pays a little on the side to pass the written test. Takes the (pitifully short and easy) driving test. He's through. Without needing to demonstrate competence in highway maneuvers or in following the laws of the road.

Then he goes to work. He has to be aggressive to get passengers. Tailgates so other jeepney drivers don't jump him in line, drives fast to jump the line himself. Drops passengers off in the middle of the road so he can drive away quickly. Push other cars aside so he can meet his boundary.

He's doing exactly what he needs to do to be an efficient jeepney driver. Until the law tells him what he's doing is wrong, and until he's forced to show competence and politeness on the road to retain his license... that's the way it'll be.

I agree, tried to drive our jeepney before,(which is a bad investment by the way) lugi pa ako, yung kinita ko, pangkrudo lang at meryenda, pag nataon pa na nahuli ka ng pulis, pasubo na, kaya ganon sila magmaneho dahil diskarte talaga nila yun para kumita. ... kahit na makaabala pa sila ng iba.

[architect]

As bad as it sounds, some of the so-called solutions that have been proposed are actually part of the problem.

For instance, we are all aware of the limitations of the LTO. Thus, realistically, as harsh as it sounds, it can’t be part of the solution unless we have a drastic change in governance. At least, the LTO provides a minimum of framework that allows a semblance of a working system. After all, we are able to get from point A to point B in one piece, right?

Driver education, rather the lack of it, is another mitigating factor that we obviously can not change in the near or short-term future. As such, we simply have to work with or around the given situation.

Law implementation is also obviously lacking is most parts of our country. But the SBMA under Gordon did prove that there is hope. However to implement such a system on a nationwide basis would be a Herculean task. But it would not be impossible to do so on a selective localized basis.

I guess what I am wondering is if we can think outside the box and come up with more innovative proposals.

[starbutt]

talo ka kung makipaggitgitan ka sa kanila. its either your ahead of them or behind them. never side by side with them or racing with them. most of them did not go through formal driving school training. so they do not know what are the right driving rules. and if they know, they do not observe said rules: naghahabol yan sila ng boundary.

peace!

[RedHorse]

the irony is that LAHAT ng PUV drivers sa SM cinemas nanonood... mga hagikgikan, tsismisan sa drama/suspense scene...angat ang paa, nakaka-apak na nga ni walang sorry. seguro sa mahal ng motel, doon na lang sila nagpapara**.

mga 1 yr na din akong di na nanonood sa sm-west, mahal gamot, have to take it while watching movie...

sa shang na lang kahit mapalayo ok lang

[niky]

It's not so bad if you get a route that isn't oversaturated yet, but it's not a good investment with a brand new vehicle... ...had a friend who tried it, and even if you don't drive yourself, ang hirap!

Problem is, the government is helpless to limit franchises, and the JODAs don't police their ranks or limit their numbers... some places, you'll have three dozen jeepneys vying for just a dozen passengers... a real lose-lose situation.

[boybi]

the irony is that LAHAT ng PUV drivers sa SM cinemas nanonood... mga hagikgikan, tsismisan sa drama/suspense scene...angat ang paa, nakaka-apak na nga ni walang sorry. seguro sa mahal ng motel, doon na lang sila nagpapara**.

mga 1 yr na din akong di na nanonood sa sm-west, mahal gamot, have to take it while watching movie...

sa shang na lang kahit mapalayo ok lang

hehe, RedHorse, pano mo nalaman yan?

[RedHorse]

asar lang me ngayon... sa cfc ang ingay, kaya puv drivers naman napagbuntungan ko... assumed ko, lahat ng inaway ko sa sm city west PUV drivers, ginagawang BUSINA ang cellphone nila eh

[claRkEnt]

Problem is, the government is helpless to limit franchises, and the JODAs don't police their ranks or limit their numbers... some places, you'll have three dozen jeepneys vying for just a dozen passengers... a real lose-lose situation.

medyo OT: this has always been the case : SATURATION! take the case of Nata de coco, Zagu, etc...

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[trackers888]

Guys in fairness sa mga PUJ or PUV or other means of public transpo, hindi lahat ng public transpo driver walang disiplina sa daan. Maraming katulad nilang PUJ driver ang galit sa kapwa nila driver dahil sa hindi magandang asal sa daan. Maraming dahilan kung bakit sila ganuon, "chicken and egg" ika nga. Parang magulang sa anak, or gobyerno sa mamamayan.

Meron din namang AIM graduate, Masteral degree holder, hi profile personality, public official or general ang bastos, balasubas at abusado sa daan.

For me ang solution is proper governance. Kung hindi sana naghihirap ang marami sa mga Pilipino dahil sa maraming corrupt na official, sana hindi ganuon kahirap para sa isang simpleng Pedro na PUJ driver ang buhay. Hindi sana sya nagkukumahog kitain ang mahal na boundary, makipagsiksikan pa para naman sa kanyang pamilya.

I was a PUJ driver before during my college days, sumusonod ako sa batas trapiko, nirerespeto ang kapwa ko driver, naka PUJ man AUV or SUV.

[oldblue]

solution ? firing squad ang solusyon sa mga yan. for so many decades, puwede na sila sampahan ng economic sabotage.

look at the progressive areas/communities without/with controlled # of PUVs (Rockwell, Eastwood, Ortigas, Fort and many others , fast-paced ang buhay, mabilis ang progress.

anybody here visited cubao lately? noon college years ko napakadumi at napakagulo ng cubao, madalas dun ako sumasakay pauwi.

ngaun, yan inside ng cubao araneta center area, parang naging-ala eastwood/rockwell, bawal na mga jeepneys/puvs sa loob. sa gateway nakita ko pa future plan nila, they're building skyscrapers for call centers/residentials condos na as we speak. they have foot bridges na and hindi na nangigitim sa usok mga daan. seems that Eastwood City's Megaworld is also involved here.

mukang natuto na mga Araneta clan bec. nag-lag behind sila talaga these past few years. and they have started by removing those PUVs.

[RedHorse]

solution ? firing squad ang solusyon sa mga yan. for so many decades, puwede na sila sampahan ng economic sabotage.

look at the progressive areas/communities without/with controlled # of PUVs (Rockwell, Eastwood, Ortigas, Fort and many others , fast-paced ang buhay, mabilis ang progress.

anybody here visited cubao lately? noon college years ko napakadumi at napakagulo ng cubao, madalas dun ako sumasakay pauwi.

ngaun, yan inside ng cubao araneta center area, parang naging-ala eastwood/rockwell, bawal na mga jeepneys/puvs sa loob. sa gateway nakita ko pa future plan nila, they're building skyscrapers for call centers/residentials condos na as we speak. they have foot bridges na and hindi na nangigitim sa usok mga daan. seems that Eastwood City's Megaworld is also involved here.

mukang natuto na mga Araneta clan bec. nag-lag behind sila talaga these past few years. and they have started by removing those PUVs.

ok naman pala cubao na...wala na rin PUV drivers sa cinema nila