Is this a new LTO - MMDA modus operandi?

[pransis]

nangyari din to sa akin last October nung nagrenew ako ng license ko. Nahuli kasi ako nung 2007 for Yellow Lane Violation along EDSA sa may Cubao. Hindi ko kasi alam na may separate lanes for light vehicles kung pupunta ng Cubao Ibabaw, kaya yun nahuli ako. Ginawa nung MMDA officer e nag-issue na lang ng ticket, then bayaran ko na lang daw sa Metrobank. He was also kind enough to tell me to keep the a copy of the deposit slip kasi daw baka magka-aberya sa pagrerenew ng license. Binayaran ko agad yung ticket sa Metrobank 2 days after na mahuli ako.

At yun nga! Nung nagrenew ako last October, nagulat ako at nakaflag pa din yung license ko sa MMDA! Sabi ng LTO officer e pa-clear ko daw sa MMDA head office. Buti na lang sa Ayala MRT station ako nagrenew ng license ko nun at malapit dun sa head office ng MMDA. Buti na lang at tinago ko din yung deposit slip ko as proof na nasettle ko na yung violation ko, so nagtatak lang sila ng papel na cleared na ko. Nung bumalik ako sa LTO, sabi sa akin nung officer, buti tinago ko yung resibo ko, kasi kung wala yun sisingilin pa ulit ako. Doble kita pa ang mga mokong!

Point ko lang e bakit pa nila ginawa yung ticketing system na yun kung hindi rin nila iki-clear agad yung record mo? Aside from that, may mga nakausap ako dun na mga drivers din na nagpapa-clear ng violation na hindi nila nagawa (aside dun sa mga talagang violators. may nakita pa ako dun pinagmamalaki nya yung sangkatutak na ticket nya na napaclear na nya).

Tip para dun sa mga naticket-an: Have a photocopy of your violation tickets as well as your payment receipts. Although hassle pa din yung pababalikin ka ng LTO sa MMDA para ipaclear yung violation, at least may proof na kayo na naclear na yung violation nyo at di na nila kayo mahuhuthutan ng pera.

[CVT]

Pakompyu-computer pa kasi,- hindi naman alam kung papaano tamang i-implement at gamitin ... Abala sa mga motorista.....

9404:vader:

[james00112233]

Pakompyu-computer pa kasi,- hindi naman alam kung papaano tamang i-implement at gamitin ... Abala sa mga motorista.....

para lang may masabi na computerize na sila kahit wala naman alam sa computer.

[khUPpz77]

Kanina when i went to LTO-Cauayan to get a duplicate professional driver's license (i lost recently). sinabi na hindi raw ako mabibigyan ng new license id because may pending apprehension raw ako ng MMDA dated DECEMBER 10, 2007 pa! How come eh nitong March 2010 lang nakapag-renew ako ng lisensya ko without any apprehension alarm. What the hell are they saying eh never naman ako pumunta ng manila and never rin ako nahuli ng MMDA for the record dahil dito ako naka-base sa isabela eversince and why does it takes 3yrs para harangin nila ang mga lisensya! Sino kaya ang mahihingan ng tulong regarding this matter...

[redeemed]

Kanina when i went to LTO-Cauayan to get a duplicate professional driver's license (i lost recently). sinabi na hindi raw ako mabibigyan ng new license id because may pending apprehension raw ako ng MMDA dated DECEMBER 10, 2007 pa! How come eh nitong March 2010 lang nakapag-renew ako ng lisensya ko without any apprehension alarm. What the hell are they saying eh never naman ako pumunta ng manila and never rin ako nahuli ng MMDA for the record dahil dito ako naka-base sa isabela eversince and why does it takes 3yrs para harangin nila ang mga lisensya! Sino kaya ang mahihingan ng tulong regarding this matter...

sir, try mo follow up sa Imbestigador. Na-email ko na sila about this concern kaso i didn't receive any reply. When i called them before, di daw nila ma-access ang site/thread na'to. I'm due this September, but plan ko as early as August pa-renew na ako, pede naman ata. Just in case na may problem, re-raise ko talaga 'to.

[khUPpz77]

Thanks redeemed. e-mail ko na ang imbestigador, hopefully magawan nila ng action ang mga kabalbalang pinaggagawa nila. Pambihira talaga itong pangyayaring ito. Never akong nagpunta ng Manila that day dahil dito ako nagwowork sa Cauayan City, Isabela. Tsktsktsk! Laking abala nito...

[james00112233]

Thanks redeemed. e-mail ko na ang imbestigador, hopefully magawan nila ng action ang mga kabalbalang pinaggagawa nila. Pambihira talaga itong pangyayaring ito. Never akong nagpunta ng Manila that day dahil dito ako nagwowork sa Cauayan City, Isabela. Tsktsktsk! Laking abala nito...

sana mapalabas sa imbestigador yung mga kalokohan ng LTO.

[redeemed]

thanks james. at least nadadagdagan complaints at para umaksyon na rin ang Imbestigador.

i don't know kung dito ko nabasa or sa kabilang forum. ang style daw minsa ng mga enforcers, pag may nahuli at di nila kayang banggain yung driver. palalampasin at manghuhula na lang ng ibang plate no. or driver's license. kaya siguro natsambahan yung s'yo james. i'm not sure ha, pero possible.

[james00112233]

thanks james. at least nadadagdagan complaints at para umaksyon na rin ang Imbestigador.

i don't know kung dito ko nabasa or sa kabilang forum. ang style daw minsa ng mga enforcers, pag may nahuli at di nila kayang banggain yung driver. palalampasin at manghuhula na lang ng ibang plate no. or driver's license. kaya siguro natsambahan yung s'yo james. i'm not sure ha, pero possible.

actually hindi ako yung nagkaroon ng problema. I'm just here to support yung mga tsikoters na nagkakaproblema sa bwisit na LTO na yan. Ako mismo, ayaw ko yung sistema nila, bulok na at halata pa.

[gadzooks]

April 25, 2010

Mr. Alberto H. Suansing
Chief
Land Transportation Office
LTO Main Compound
East Avenue, Diliman, Quezon City

Dear Sir:

This is a request for reinstatement of my driver’s license recently denied by the LTO Driver’s License Renewal Center (DLRC).

On April 16, 2010, I appeared at the LTO-DLRC at the Ayala MRT Station, Makati City for the timely renewal of my driver’s license. Nearly at the end of the renewal process, I was informed by one of the LTO staff present that my license could not be renewed because of unsettled cases for “UNCLASSIFIED” traffic violations listed in the MMDA database under the already-declared illegal Metropolitan Traffic Ticket (MTT) scheme. A printout provided to me by the same staff member detailing these alleged violations is hereto attached. I was then instructed by the staff member to settle these cases with the MMDA after which I could return to the DLRC to pay the renewal fee and pick up my license.

As enunciated by the Supreme Court in MMDA v. Garin (2005), “where there is a traffic law or regulation validly enacted by the legislature or those agencies to whom legislative powers have been delegated…, the petitioner [MMDA] is not precluded – and in fact is duty-bound – to confiscate and suspend or revoke drivers’ licenses in the exercise of its mandate of transport and traffic management, as well as the administration and implementation of all traffic enforcement operations, traffic engineering services and traffic education programs”. As I am currently in possession of my driver’s license, this establishes the fact that I have no unsettled traffic cases for violations of traffic laws or regulations “validly enacted by the legislature or those agencies to whom legislative powers have been delegated”. As such, any claims by the MMDA to the contrary are baseless and outside of the law.

In addition, on the dates during which the alleged violations took place (all in late 2007), it was already established legal fact that the MMDA possessed no police powers under the law (MMDA v. Bel-Air (2000) and MMDA v. Garin---“The MMDA is not vested with police power.”). How then could I be cited for any violation under the MTT scheme---already declared void by the Court of Appeals in 2008, affirming an earlier lower court’s ruling---when any traffic apprehension, an exercise of police power, by the MMDA was an illegal exercise then and is so to this day?

Moreover, under R.A. 4136, the procedure for renewal of a driver’s license does not contemplate a situation where any motorist would continue to possess his license should he have any unsettled cases for violations of traffic laws or regulations. R.A. 4136 demands the immediate confiscation of the motorist’s driver’s license for such violations and its return to the motorist upon settlement of his case. Again, as I am currently in possession of my driver’s license, its renewal should be granted without requiring adherence to illegal requirements.

Your reply to my request as mandated under R.A. 9485 and the Administrative Code of 1987 is anticipated. Should this request be granted, I also ask for the waiver of any late driver’s license renewal fee should such apply.

Thank you.

Very truly yours,

NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD

[gadzooks]

MAKATI REMINDS MMDA OF ITS LIMITATIONS (2009): http://jojobinay.wordpress.com/2009/...s-limitations/

[gadzooks]

Republic Act No. 9485 (ANTI-RED TAPE LAW)

"Sec. 9. Automatic Extension of Permits and Licenses. - - If a government office or agency fails to act on an application and/or request for renewal of a license, permit or authority subject for renewal within the prescribed period, said permit, license or authority shall automatically be extended until a decision or resolution is rendered on the application for renewal..."

[claRkEnt]

wow! been a victim of this just now. I am renewing my license this afternoon at SM Clark and, lo and behold, di daw pwede i-renew unless i settle an apprehension which happened daw Feb 18, 2009 pa. There is a reference Ticket # and i have to call MMDA daw to ask for the specifics and then pay at Metrobank. (i have yet to call MMDA to know the details, dont know if they are open on saturdays)

Feb 18 is a wednesday and my coding day is Tuesday (hope hindi coding ang violation). Checked my calendar and i was at Batangas the whole day of Feb 18.

Mukhang this is a common scenario. Hold-up nga! tsk tsk

[MaxAJ]

wow! been a victim of this just now. I am renewing my license this afternoon at SM Clark and, lo and behold, di daw pwede i-renew unless i settle an apprehension which happened daw Feb 18, 2009 pa. There is a reference Ticket # and i have to call MMDA daw to ask for the specifics and then pay at Metrobank. (i have yet to call MMDA to know the details, dont know if they are open on saturdays)

Feb 18 is a wednesday and my coding day is Tuesday (hope hindi coding ang violation). Checked my calendar and i was at Batangas the whole day of Feb 18.

Mukhang this is a common scenario. Hold-up nga! tsk tsk

Is your name registered as the owner of your car? ? I suggest that you get the full details of your violations in black and white including the name of the officer who filed it. Then file a complaint or protest like the one above to MMDA and LTO. This could be an inside job and or nang huhula ng numero or names.

[claRkEnt]

Is your name registered as the owner of your car? ? I suggest that you get the full details of your violations in black and white including the name of the officer who filed it. Then file a complaint or protest like the one above to MMDA and LTO. This could be an inside job and or nang huhula ng numero or names.

definitely i will lodge a complaint (even after settling it with a heavy heart).

I think this practice is an illegal one. Having an apprehension without you knowing and acknowledging it. This just means that those stupid MMDA agents can report at their own whims. Let's say hinuli ka ng TE, then you had a discussion contesting him and then in the end he let you go. Yun pala he will still file an apprehension support! Hold-up di ba?

[gadzooks]

MMDA's reply, 17 June 2009: http://www.*********.com/?dznntmjnm3z

[gadzooks]

July 5, 2010

Mr. Alberto H. Suansing
Chief
Land Transportation Office
LTO Main Compound
East Avenue, Diliman, Quezon City

Dear Sir:

This is to kindly follow-up written notice of approval or disapproval as mandated under R.A. 9485 on my written request for reinstatement of my Driver’s License as allowed under R.A. 4136 and waiver of any late renewal fees.

A copy of the abovementioned request dated April 25, 2010 is hereto attached along with the following:

(1) 1st Indorsement dated May 11, 2010 addressed to the Chairman of the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA);
(2) 2nd Indorsement dated June 9, 2010 addressed to Ms. Thelma J. Corsiga, Officer-In-Charge, LTO;
(3) MMDA letter dated June 17, 2010, signed by the Director IV, TTMO, Mr. Angelito Vergel De Dios and addressed to the undersigned.

In its letter, the MMDA alleges that the “traffic citations appearing in the database are legal and supported by Traffic Violation Receipts (TVR)”. However, no such legality exists. In fact, as recently as September 2009, the MMDA was reminded by the Makati City government “that it does not have the authority to issue traffic violation receipts (TVR) within localities in Metro Manila” (news article attached herewith). In addition, the MMDA makes mention of its policy of non-confiscation of Driver’s License. Such policy runs contrary to various laws including R.A. 7924 and the 2005 MMDA v. Garin Supreme Court Decision.

Given the facts above, I kindly reiterate my request for the reinstatement of my Driver’s License with waiver of any late renewal fees and await your mandatory approval or disapproval of the request.

Thank you.

Very truly yours,

NAME AND ADDRESS WITHHELD

[impulzz]

the MAGIC TICKET SCAM is still on going... i was renewing my Driver’s License today and the LTO gave me a xerox cory of the mmda apprehension alarm that i have a unsettled ticket dated 7/7/2007... i told the guy how can that be when may last renewal was on 8/10/2007 a month after the said magic ticket... he told nothing he can do about it as its the mmda that flagged my license... so i went to orense and as it was already the late 4:30, the arrogant guard who wouldn't even look at me said that it was already cut off time.. i looked inside the office and there were still many people in line.

how do i file a complaint and if ever how much did the ticket cost you guys???

it is so much hassle...



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[gadzooks]

7/7/2007 - Ticket issued by the MMDA
8/10/2007 - License renewal OK

Sometime in 2008 or 2009, the MMDA interconnects its traffic violation database with the LTO; the legality of the interconnection is not questioned by the people. This is the reason your license renewal this year will not pass whereas it did in 2007.

[impulzz]

so kahit wala ka violation the previous year lilitaw ang magic ticket on the next renewal?