Basaan sa San Juan

[TJMaxx]

The town of San Juan Metro Manila, specifically in the
low income/squatter areas, takes the trophy for being
the dumbest, most barbaric, most inconsiderate people
in the Philippines. No wonder, doon galing si Erap at
si Jinggoy at si JV.

Tingnan mo naman yung Araw ng San Juan, binabasa
nila lahat ng dumadaan doon. Kawawa naman yung
mga papasok sa trabaho at nakasakay lang sa jeep.
Yung iba, pinapasok pa mismo sa jeep at tinatapunan
ng tubig. Yung iba, tubig canal pa ang hinahagis sa
mga nagdadaan... Tapos ang sasabihin nila "walang
personalan, nagkakasayaan lang dahil fiesta ng San
Juan..." Now that's really DUMB. Duh!!

Laking tuwa ko lang na sana may mapikon diyan at
may mabaril o mapatay na nambabasa...

[Ungas]

Narinig ko sa news kagabi may napikon nga raw sa basaan blues. Di ko lang matiyak kung sa Manila or San Juan nangyari.

[qman]

meron ng napikon diyan noon pero matagal na.
pero di sa slum area nangyari sa prominenteng lugar isang driver ng kotse nakabukas ang window nya at me lumabas na kabataan na nangbasa ng tubi mismo galing sa tabo ayun. Biglang tigil at binaril ang bata nabuhay naman pero matagal na iyon.

Di lang sa mga taga slum area nagkakaroon ng ganyang basaan ang gamit ihi at tubig kanal. Noong kabataan namin ang pasimuno pa noon anak ng isang artista sikat parin hanggang ngayon. Pinapasok pa noon ang Gliner bus pati ang mga sakay ng dyip kung umangal sinasapak agad. Ang tip dyan huwag kang dadaan ng sanjuan kung piyesta mula 8-12 ng tanghali.

[van_wilder]

kami nun bata kami pumupunta pa kami ng san juan para makisali dahil may relatives kami dun...

[baiskee]

sa balayan walang pikunan...yung ibang tubig o beer na ubod ng lamig dahil nakababad sa yelo. oras na dumaan ka doon, expect that you'll get wet. di ko rin alam kung lahat ng tubig na ginagamit ay malinis...hopefully mailinis yun.

isang araw lang yan sa isang taon...alam naman natin, pag dumaan ka dyan on the day of their patron saint..babasain ka, kung ayaw mong mabasa, take a cab..or take another route...tradisyon at kultura na kasi yan...

[badkuk]

everybody's under some sort of pressure these days...dumping water on them on their way to work(that sucks, generally) is not going to make them happy...buti sana kung pera ang binuhos sa akin -- wag lang nga barya B).

[kyle618]

haha good thing i didnt pass there on san juan day... taga san juan pa naman ako

[dx8976]

sana gumawa naman sila ng mas productive na "tradition"

[ess]

Originally posted by badkuk
everybody's under some sort of pressure these days...dumping water on them on their way to work(that sucks, generally) is not going to make them happy...

Good point!

When that kind of tradition was born, it was during a time when people were more or less stress-free. Indeed it would be nice if the manner in which that tradition is celebrated would be toned down to a more practical level. (Ex. Have a designated 'wetting zone'.... for instance, the SJ munisipyo.. so, if you want to drench somebody, you have to go to the SJ munisipyo.)

Anwyay, like what others posted in this thread....it's tradition. Mahirap alisin yan. The only recourse would be to avoid passing through SJ during that day. (Yung mga office mates ko na taga SJ na nag-co-commute, nag-v-VL na lang during araw ng SJ...)

[Renelmac]

yep, tama na umiwas ka nalang from that area, one day lang naman out of your other 36+ days of the year.

[gretzy]

pero di din pwedeng basta idahilan na tradisyon kc, they should also be considerate of the feelings of those who are not from san juan, halimbawa may napikon, humingi sila dapat ng dispensa n huwag yung papatulan pa nila at makikipagsuntukan sila

[baiskee]

can't blame them...alam mong babasain ka pag napadaan ka dun...

even in balayan batangas...kahit sabihin mong dumadaan ka lang...babasain ka din. kahit nga sa kalye(highway), may makasabay lang na tricycle...babasain pa rin.

ganito lang yan...alam natin tradisyon sa san juan na nambabasa sila dyan, pag ayaw mong mabasa..

wag kang pupunta o dadaan...take an alternate route...may choice tayo dito di ba?

kung dadaan ka pa rin...well, its a risk for you to take.

[qman]

haha the more you ask them na wag mo saling basain the more na tubig ang itatapon sayo. No consideration kahit mga kapitbahay nilang me pasok and do not celebrate the fiesta eh di pinapatawad.

Trick lang diyan kung taga San Juan ka at ayaw mong mabasa umalis ka ng bahay nyo before 7:30-8 normally doon nagsisimula ang basaan.

One more kung binasa ka na umalis ka na lang huwag ka ng umangal dahil sigurado kuyog ang aabutin mo.

[turk182]

it happens only once a year... i say let those ppl have their fun and have their "tradition" even if it's a foolish one... at least, they get to forget about their problems and struggles for a day...

i'm from new manila and i pass through san juan everyday... i've seen a lot of these basaan days and got wet once...

for motorists just remember to roll up your windows and nothing will happen... you'll just get a wet windshield and/or window... this day normally happens during the rainy season so no diff... for those taking public transpo, just avoid the area for that day and take an alternative route...

[mazdamazda]

how about those people who DON"T have a car?

how about those people who do NOT have an alternate route going to work?

how about those people who CANNOT afford a taxi going to work?

how about those people who DOESN'T give a damn about these stupid celebrations because he has to earn a living?

and come to think of it, those who are participating in these kind of celebration are those who are not working. kaya walang nangyayari sa Pilipinas eh.

[bardigones]

how about those people who DON"T have a car?

how about those people who do NOT have an alternate route going to work?

how about those people who CANNOT afford a taxi going to work?

i have lots of friends from san juan, and we used to live there. i used to go to school there from '83 to '93. i always go there.

i havent heard from anybody from the "above-mentioned" group complaining...

half-day lang yan, sa umaga pa. sabi nga nila, pag gusto para-paraan lang yan, pag ayaw, maraming dahilan.

[baiskee]

buhay pa pala to? binuhay pala ni ser bardi...:lol:

Originally posted by mazdamazda

and come to think of it, those who are participating in these kind of celebration are those who are not working. kaya walang nangyayari sa Pilipinas eh.

i don't think so ser mazda...

it seems like na pinatatamaan mo yung mga san juan residents/ baluarte ni erap or the estradas...

unfair naman yan kasi di pa si erap ang mayor, nambabasa na talaga sila sa sanjuan tuwing june24 na feast day of their patron saint, john the baptist. and even in balayan, batangas...the festival there is "parada ng lechon", pero bakit may basaan nangyayari? not because gusto lang nila makisabayan sa sanjuan but because their patron saint is saint john as well...

siguro nga nakakainis lang kasi uncomfortable or nakakairita or nakakainis kung mabiktima ka...

come to think of it.... di ba mas marami pa nga mas grabe ginagawa ng ibang bansa sa mga tradisyon nila? isa na rito yung sa spain ba yun, yung BULL RUN... meron pa talagang pwede mamatay at sa japan, yung sasakay sa malaking troso tapos ihuhulog sa bangin...

pero sinisigurado ko na itong mga tradisyon na ito ay hindi nakakababa ng moral ng ating bansa bagkus nakakatulong pa nga dahil naisasalin pa natin sa mga susunod na henerasyon...;)

[baiskee]

by the way.... isa po ako sa mga nambabasa at nababasa. ;)

peace

[pajerokid]

I second what mazdamazda posted.

Sure, these people have their right to withold their "tradition" (a term im using to its extent). Pero they should keep it to themselves. Heck, who would care if these people keep their basaan to themselves. Mag-ihiian pa sila kung gusto nila.

But what people fail to see is the right of others not to participate in these "traditions".

No one should be happy at another's expense. (provided that B party doesnt consent to it)

[baiskee]

so be it... if those people don't want to participate.. they have the will/choice not to pass on that area as we all know that this "basaan" occur every june 24.