gud day sa lahat!well sa palagay ko,maling mali si jasprit...dapat yang mga nagmomotor na yan alam nila kung san sila lulugar...kadalasan kasi yang mga nagmomotor na yan ang makukulit sa daan,pansinin mo dami nang namatay sa marami nating kababayang motorista dahil sa katigasan ng ulo...yang mga motor na yan kung makapagpatakbo kala mo eh hari ng daan,alam kong maraming members dito na nakaencounter na ng makukulit at tarantadong motorsiklo..singit ng singit kaya nagmumukhang singit,pag nakasanggi naman wala namang pambayad,pag nadisgrasya ikaw pa ang may kasalanan..marami nakong experiences sa mga tantarado na yan..nagkakataon bago sasakyan ko,biruin mo sa nueva ecija nasa leftlane ako may nagovertake na motorsiklo,pagkalagpas sa harapan ko biglang nagmabagal eh wala namang ibang sasakyan sa harap nya,ayun nasagasaan ko...eh ang TANGA magoovertake tapos magmamabagal sa harapan mo,diko alam kung scam ba ito...dami pakong experiences di na mabilang...ang wish ko lang umayos na yang mga driver nang motorsiklo,wag singit ng singit sa alanganin,matutong magantay...
Ako depende sa mood, dalang auto at situation.i don't know if i'm correct or not, but i do not budge from where i am, and if i do budge, konti lang. i force them to respect other motorists also by going back to their lanes.
Kapag pangharabas ang auto, wala ako sa mood at may lulusutan naman yung ayaw pumilang motorista, most of the time I don't budge, pwera nalang kung lunatic. Dito sa Tandang Sora, sandamakmak ang mga hindi marunong pumila, left and right kung sumulpot, and they always expect you to see them. Kahit blind corner umoovertake, tapos kapag nagulat ikaw ang kakalawitin. Anyway, I've had 2 encounters before, heavy brake pareho, yung isa muntik masalpok ng truck. He had a window para bumalik sa lane niya, inilawan ko rin (warning), kaso nagmatigas kaya yun ang napala. If I remember correctly, hahabulin pa sana ako, kaso mukhang inaway nung angkas niya.
Common sense lang naman ang dapat pairalin, kapos nga lang ang iba.
all i know is that motorcycles are supposed to be just like cars i mean lahat ng rules and regulations in driving. the thing with motorcycle riders, they ride their bikes na parang bicycle. singit kung saan saan, even at the center of a 2 lane road. remember, hindi bisikleta ang dala nyo, may motor yan.
in my opinion, if bikers would be a little more disciplined, in wearing helmets, in driving, there would be lesser accidents and things like these wouldnt happen.
[SIZE="3"]Quote:[SIZE="2"]Originally Posted by jasprit [/SIZE]
Basta may mali sming dalawa it's either him or her.
I admit di ako nag sisignal liyt mga kotse di rin naman hehehehe. bottom line is if one breaks the rule let's join him. If you can't beat them join them.[/SIZE]
I must agree to this.
From my personal experience, most of the motorcycle riders are close to bec. pests/nuisance on the road. I don't want to arise any violent reaction to my post. I'm not generalizing my opinion re:motorcycle drivers. Since I'm on the road everyday, I encounter a lot of pesky m.riders...about 90% if I shld rate it. And yes, there are also undisciplined car-drivers but the ones on the motorcycle are the ones who put everyone else on the road at a risk on getting into an accident. They just swerve/overtake abruptly w/out the sensibility of the other motorists. Road courtesy is really scarce these days.
I also ply the Mkna area almost everyday. During rush hours, whenever traffic in the Tanong area is stalled or slowly moving. Some motorcyle drivers pass at the middle (take note: rt. at the center line). Tama po ba yon?
I know this is going OT but going back to the thread-starter. Be sensitive lang and pls practice road courtesy. Being a motorist, respect lang po whenever you're on the road. You could have illicited the car-driver's anger coz you might have provoked him consciously or unconsciously. Buti wala kang angkas na bata--as they say sa mga mata ng bata...I always drive w/ my kids and whenever they see undisciplined/ungentleman drivers, they would ask if that's allowable coz they understand that for you to illicit respect, it must first come from you.
PEACE!
Any self-respecting person with a teeny, weeny COMMON SENSE will not really say that "if you can't beat 'em, then join 'em", as he relegates himself to the IQ equivalent of looney tunes characters (and mind you, it's neither Bugs Bunny, nor Tweety, nor Roadrunner, so you get the drift...), equalling most of jeepney drivers' bus drivers' and tricycle drivers' intelligence.
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I just hope that if this poster continues this state of mind, makakita sana sya ng tumatalon sa Pasig River, and knowing that if he can't beat that looney tune character, he applies his usual logic of joining him down the puddle.
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To my fellow tsikoteers,
I don't personally know jasprit but i guess he's 18 years old from what i remember from his previous posts. By being young and inexperienced, he thought that he was doing the right thing. So when he observed that the other person in the car was trying to antagonize him, jasprit posted this thread and hoped to get some advice from you.
jasprit,
I hope you'll consider their responses as constructive criticisms TO MAKE YOU A BETTER DRIVER, not to make you a lesser man. If you would again be in the same road situation again, I hope what you have read in these posts will guide you in what proper action to take.
As always, drive safely and arrive in one piece.
I already knew that this thread will lead to this conclusion before....
WBR,
This is lane splitting and how it is being done legally in some states in the U.S. and other countries in Europe. Personally I feel it should only be done in stopped or slow moving traffic to be safe. Watch the videos if you are interested. Lanesplitting is legal unless the law says otherwise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MQVtEDd5Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjjjARyOijY
Ideally people talk about how motorcycles need to be treated just like cars, which is true overseas, but since coming to the Philippines I have yet to see a place or parking area where people here allow my motorcycle the same rights as a car. You can't even park in a parking slot in a parking area because people here say it is only for cars. When I go to park outside a bank I find a car parked behind my motorcycle and the driver says bikes shouldn't park there and tells me to park where bicycles are parked. WTF! is wrong with the minds of the parking officials and some people here! Say that in the U.S. and you will be sued in court. And my bike is a 600cc Honda CBR so don't give me any crap about being poor. Some street legal bikes aren't even being allowed in the expressways. I bought a 250cc sport bike that is way faster than most cars on the road in this country and I am stopped from entering the North Expressway. Even the German Autobahn doesn't have that kind of restriction. A peer of mine on another site had his belt driven scooter Honda Silverwing 600cc stopped because they said its a small belt scooter and it is not allowed. In the U.S. any motorcycle that can maintain the minimum and maximum speed posted is generally allowed to use any road. I am amazed at the level of ignorance and discrimination against bikers here. People say all bikers here are bad or irresponsible but as an outsider staying here for a year now I would have to say almost every car, bus, motorcycle, etc., drivers here are just as bad. People need to quit b****ing about bikers and such and tell law enforcement to do their job.
Sorry to read sir, of your sad biking experience regarding the parking, denied access to the NLEX, a-hole drivers of cars, buses, motorcycles, etc.
We suffer the same fate as you do in our day-to-day driving in the metro. Don't hope for assistance from the law enforcement officers since some of them contribute to the b****ing and fu**ing taffic problems that we motorists encounter daily. What can I say but...
Welcome to the club!!! You're in the Philippines!!!
I have watched the video and it is just the same thing here in the PI but instead of using bigbikes, we see them using underbones.... as I understand, jasprit was lanesplitting while every other vehicles are on full stop since may stoplight then yun isang driver eh biglang hinarangan yun dadaanan or siguro ginitgit siya para di siya makalusot.
IMO i don't think that it is wrong for bikes to lanesplit as long as you dont hit anything or anybody or there is an ample space between cars that you are passing. yun nga kasi ang advantage ng motor eh. we cannot expect them to fall in line with other vehicles kasi kakasya naman sila at pwede lumusot. basta wag lang lulusot kung hindi kasya at may matatamaan.
How do we define ample space?
I do the same thing Innova_Boy.
Last edited by swimstroke; November 25th, 2006 at 11:46 AM.
what if lulusot nga but the clearance from both sides is say only 1 inch?....
I just lower my window and say if you came in contact with my ride, you must pay that.... enough and he stop....
WBR,
What will you do it the motorcycle guy scratch your car anf then he started to scratch his head and say he has no money to pay you????
WBR,