Is Counterflow a valid traffic violation?

**1D4LV** · July 5th, 2007 08:19 AM

it is clearly a traffic violation because for one, it obstructs oncoming traffic, and second, it endangers lives.

ang problem lang dito sa pilipinas is that it is really not enforced strictly.. in fact, most traffic aides (specially in the case of las pinas), encourages this.

**afrasay** · July 5th, 2007 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Helios

Advice ko lang sir batang_raon14 that the implementation of traffic laws around this place however clear or vague they might be, are still dependent on whoever is enforcing it at that time. Attempting to counterflow out of your own accord will draw a violation anywhere, while in some instances and areas a third lane is encouraged by some enforcers to ease up traffic on intersections and bottlenecks. The key my friend, is if an area is unfamiliar to you, stick with the book and not the vehicle in front of you. Otherwise take note of the enforcer's own custom-made system. In the Philippines, one stoplight is different to the next. Unfortunately this does not apply to high profile dudes.

Agree ako dito.

**afrasay** · July 5th, 2007 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by happy_gilmore

it is clearly a traffic violation because for one, it obstructs oncoming traffic, and second, it endangers lives.

ang problem lang dito sa pilipinas is that it is really not enforced strictly.. in fact, most traffic aides (specially in the case of las pinas), encourages this.

Eto yun delicado pag may tumatawid na nakatingin sa right just before they cross the centerline not knowing may vehicle na parating sa left. But then again this wouldn't happen if they cross at the designated pedestrian crossing.

**sirmykel** · July 5th, 2007 09:15 AM

no, kung pinacounterflow kayo.
pero kung ikaw ang magggawa ng sariling counterflow mo, YES

**n5110** · July 6th, 2007 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by CVT

Sa Bacoor/Las Pinas,- way of life ang counterflow. Imagine, you're stucked in traffic for 15minutes because the traffic enforcers are 'lending' all of the lanes to the 'counter-flow'.... hehehe. Worse along coastal road going to Cavite,- 30minutes pa yata.... tsk tsk

Count na lang from 1 to sawa to ease the mounting *#$%...

+1 . buti na lang talaga may friendship route sticker.

Originally Posted by ian_rex

"counterflow" or as LTO List of Penalty under "Other Violation"says: Driving against traffic (68B), has a corresponding fine of PhP 150. pero kapag ang violation is Reckless Driving then:

1st offense = 500
2nd offense = 750
3rd offense = 1000

here is the link:http://www.lto.gov.ph/fines2.html#v11

wish ko lang i enforce nila ito. lalo na kasi kumagrabe ang way of driving dito sa atin. daming style na jologs.

**kuyapete** · July 7th, 2007 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by afrasay

Eto yun delicado pag may tumatawid na nakatingin sa right just before they cross the centerline not knowing may vehicle na parating sa left. But then again this wouldn't happen if they cross at the designated pedestrian crossing.

ang daming cases na ganito sa may corner ng domestic road and airport road (doon sa may caltex station). madalas may lumalabas na galing caltex turning left and going towards domestic airport, so pagbibigyan ng mga naka stop na vehicles going to NAIA, tapos ung mga nag c0-counter flow, obvious di makikita ung tatawid na sasakyan and likewise, ung mga tatawid, sa right titingin to avoid oncoming traffic and not the left where these stupid counter flowers pass. madalas mga mc naaaksidente, which they deserve.

i have no compassion for counterflowers, madalas pag magisa ako at naka tapat ako ng counterflower sa lane ko, tinututukan ko para hirap siya makabalik sa lane niya. sabay bright ng headlights.

**FedEx** · July 12th, 2007 02:16 PM

for me it is a valid violation and dapat pati ung 1 sasakyan huliin din

**OILSLICK** · July 12th, 2007 04:11 PM

Sa tingin ko, dapat nagmamando ng traffic yung pulis at hindi nagtatago while waiting for violators. Kaya naman walang ka-amor-amor sakin ang karamihan sa mga pulis. Ugaling t*e kasi.

tama kayo jan sir Otep .. iyong tugak na pulis pinara ako jan from roxas blvd mag right turn sana ako punta diplomat bldg malapit sa MC DO hndi ko napansin iyong NO ENTRY pa right turn pa lang ako bigla ba nman may tumayo pulis nakatago sa mga maliit na puno at kasama mga vendors ..ask niya ako kung hndi ko nakita iyo NO ENTRY eh hindi ko nman talaga nakita sobra taas na naka tagilid pa he he ..sabi ko sa pulis sumakay ka nga d2 sa kotse at tinggan mo kung mkita mo iyan signboard ..tapos inunahan ko na ng galit dapat sa iyo nagmando ka ng flow ng traffic at hindi ka nagtatago sa puno ohh pati iyan name plate mo nakatago din

hindi na kinuha license ko sabi sa akin eh sir nagpapahingga lang at medyo mainit..

**m2's kumander** · July 12th, 2007 04:24 PM

yup, traffic violation yan.

sobrang delikado kapag may nagcounterflow. delikado na sa mga motorist at pati sa mga pedestrians.

sana patupad na mabuti yun no counterflow sa lahat ng lugar

**buriroy** · July 12th, 2007 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by CVT

Sa Bacoor/Las Pinas,- way of life ang counterflow. Imagine, you're stucked in traffic for 15minutes because the traffic enforcers are 'lending' all of the lanes to the 'counter-flow'.... hehehe. Worse along coastal road going to Cavite,- 30minutes pa yata.... tsk tsk

Count na lang from 1 to sawa to ease the mounting *#$%...

Kasalanan din ng mga traffic cops/enforcers yan. Motorists develop a "counterflow mentality" since they authorize counterflows pag nag
tra-trapik sila especially during rush hours.
Ngayon ang nangyayari kahit walang parak/enforcer, kanya-kanya
na ring counterflow thinking or justifying to themselves that its "legal".