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    Quote Originally Posted by sparc179 View Post
    If the road ahead is missing, then it would be logical to use hazard lights, because the car would Not Be Moving, and most likely be on the side of the road, stationary, until the road ahead clears up again.

    On another note, it would certainly be easier to distinguish proficient drivers from the rest, especially those who didn't read the LTO regulations on the use of such lights while the car is in motion.
    Regulation ? Is this the one thats verbatimly copied from another country? The truth is the countries where that regulation was copied from have very strict laws and enforcement on the road worthiness of vehicles from the lights to the tint. Can you say the same exist in the Philippines? Lets start with your tint.

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    Eto mahirap sa Pinoy eh. Dami excuses kung mali ginagawa. Then we start pointing fingers at others for doing something else.

    If other countries regulate that such actions are not in line with traffic safety, why would you do otherwise? It is just pathetic trying to defend a wrong practice in the first place.

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    Some people just do not know how to admit it when they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Eto mahirap sa Pinoy eh. Dami excuses kung mali ginagawa. Then we start pointing fingers at others for doing something else.

    If other countries regulate that such actions are not in line with traffic safety, why would you do otherwise? It is just pathetic trying to defend a wrong practice in the first place.
    Lets agree to disagree...


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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Regulation ? Is this the one thats verbatimly copied from another country? The truth is the countries where that regulation was copied from have very strict laws and enforcement on the road worthiness of vehicles from the lights to the tint. Can you say the same exist in the Philippines? Lets start with your tint.
    Seriously, that's your argument? Just because the regulation isn't enforced you shouldn't follow it anymore?

    You're worse than the those who don't know what the rules are then, because you already know it's not a safe thing to do and yet you still do it.

    And, if I may, the emergency brake system you are using to try and make your point, it means the vehicle has stopped already because of the emergency and is no longer moving. See the difference? Hazard (Not Hazzard, BTW) lights are good to use if the car is already stationary during an emergency situation, accident, has broken down, etc.

    Hazard Lights + Stopped Vehicle = Good. It's just logical.

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    emergency blinking brake lights.
    the pros and cons are discussed by vince ****elos in autoindustriya.com.
    it's in google.

    on the use of hazard lights with the vehicle moving,
    majority of published automotive literature clearly puts someone on the wrong side of automotive history.

    OT.
    kawawa naman si vince.
    hindi pinapayagan ng computerized board of censors ma-spell correctly dito ang pangalan niya.
    Last edited by dr. d; July 3rd, 2019 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparc179 View Post
    Seriously, that's your argument? Just because the regulation isn't enforced you shouldn't follow it anymore?

    You're worse than the those who don't know what the rules are then, because you already know it's not a safe thing to do and yet you still do it.

    And, if I may, the emergency brake system you are using to try and make your point, it means the vehicle has stopped already because of the emergency and is no longer moving. See the difference? Hazard (Not Hazzard, BTW) lights are good to use if the car is already stationary during an emergency situation, accident, has broken down, etc.

    Hazard Lights + Stopped Vehicle = Good. It's just logical.
    Probably the regulatikn is flawed for philippine condition. Countries enforcing that regulations have other regulations that are more strictly enforced to make the non use of hazzard lights feasible. In the US , some states have anti hazzard law while other states allow it. Countries in South America have liberal application of hazzard lights, from pedestrian crossing to parking on the curb.

    Cars in emergency braking are not going to stop in 1 second it will be in motion for several seconds depending on a lot of conditions from speed, tire, road condition, brake condition. ABS was invented to prevent brake lock so you can steer during this window. The hazzard lights in that emergency braking will trigger as soon as the system sence the force on the brake.

    Review the video again and see that car is in motion while the hazzard light is flashing. You can even count the seconds before the car in the animation completely stops although the stopping distance is quite conservative from reality.

    In strict sense in the use of hazzard lights in the philippines Vehicle in stopped position from emergency braking is not an exemption in the use of hazzard lights , not unless the vehicle is stopped due to collision.
    Last edited by glenn_duke; July 3rd, 2019 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Probably the regulatikn is flawed for philippine condition. Countries enforcing that regulations have other regulations that are more strictly enforced to make the non use of hazzard lights feasible. In the US , some states have anti hazzard law while other states allow it. Countries in South America have liberal application of hazzard lights, from pedestrian crossing to parking on the curb.

    Cars in emergency braking are not going to stop in 1 second it will be in motion for several seconds depending on a lot of conditions from speed, tire, road condition, brake condition. ABS was invented to prevent brake lock so you can steer during this window. The hazzard lights in that emergency braking will trigger as soon as the system sence the force on the brake.

    Review the video again and see that car is in motion while the hazzard light is flashing. You can even count the seconds before the car in the animation completely stops although the stopping distance is quite conservative from reality.

    In strict sense in the use of hazzard lights in the philippines Vehicle in stopped position from emergency braking is not an exemption in the use of hazzard lights , not unless the vehicle is stopped due to collision.


    sir we are talking about using of hazzard lights continuously which you and I (or probably you don't) know poses danger on the road specially to the ones behind such vehicles, your post about toyota's emergency blinking lights is quite far from what we are discussing here, nice find though...

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