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    #21
    This brand loyalty issue is one weakness in buyers through which some manufacturers take advantage. They make a really good car and replace it with a rather crappy one after 4 or 5 years. But still, people buy because they have been deceived, thinking that the newer model can't be much worse. Even so, the Altis is just too good. ;)

    Personally, I choose a car because of what I get in return for hard-earned cash, not the brand. And as one of you said, it should depend on the model and not the badge. For instance, a lot of Nissan models in the US are really cool cars, but the same isn't true in our region.

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    #22
    ask niyo si kogus_dream ng kotse.com with his passion in hating a civic SiR. hwekhekehkehekehekhekh.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Psalm136:2
    I guess human nature ang magpatalbugan at magpayabangan, di lang ng sasakyan kundi sa lahat ng bagay, pati pagkatao.

    For the car manufacturers and dealers, brand loyalty is a big sales boost. In the advertising world, this is called 'branding strategy'.
    agree agree ako dyaan!!!


    well, in a car enthusiast point of view it depends. Ako, it depends on the car if I like it or not. Usually I base it on experience. I hate the Alterra because of what I experienced about it. I love the Vios so much even other people dislike it. There are a lot of factors.

    Kaya wag mapipikon if others hate your car or what. hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugundam93
    ask niyo si kogus_dream ng kotse.com with his passion in hating a civic SiR. hwekhekehkehekehekhekh.
    uy, nagtatanong na siya about SIR na! dami nga nya post dun,e

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    #25
    some common reasons would be

    1. bad experience with other brands/models
    2. bad experience with service/warranty/car company
    3. bad experience with drivers of other car brands/models( you tend to associate those kinds of drivers with a particular kind of car)
    4. sourgraping(can't afford this or that, forced to love the current car)
    5. insecurity
    6. ego(talking trash about some brands/models may give out the impression that yo're knowledgeable, even when you're not)
    7. peer pressure

    'hate' would be too strong a word. ako kasi i tend to look at the maintenance aspect. i have this mindset na pag hindi toyota, mahirap maghanap at mahal ang spare parts(that's changing a bit after reading some of the posts here though)
    Last edited by badkuk; August 23rd, 2005 at 10:26 AM.

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    #26
    ang kulit na theveed. . hehehe

    korekek ka diyan boss badkuk
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    got mazda 2? -> mazda2ners

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered
    i get how you would tend to defend the brand that you drive because you don't want to feel bad about your decision on what is probably the second-biggest purchase of your life...but some people have absolutely no objectivity whatsoever.
    Right on target. People would hate to admit that they spent hard-earned cash on a car that others don't see as the best. But that's pointless, because there will always be better cars than what one owns. People will always tend to be emotional rather than logical, and when people are emotional, they say things that are sometimes downright laughable.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered
    like my Ford friend...Explorer's transmission failed after 2 weeks, the paint failed after a month...Mustang constantly in the shop...now he has an Escape, let's see how that goes. maybe he just likes to work on cars using his spare time and money :bwahaha:
    The problem your friend has is with American designed/engineered Fords... since the Escape is a joint Ford/Mazda and is made/assembled in the Philippines with Japanese parts, he should FINALLY BE SAFE!. Bwekekekek!

    My uncles are having maintenance problems with their Expeditions and Navigators... poor guys... while I'm still enjoying my "Ford" Lynx, like we enjoyed our "Ford" Laser previously.

    Personally, I don't hate other brands... I should, by the definition in the original post, hate Chevy... but I don't... We've had a Chevy Monza (uck), a Chevy Caprice (yeah!) and a Chevy Camaro (*sigh*) in the family... I dislike some modern Chevys, but for reasons of reliability/engineering, and NOT because they're Chevy.

    I've noticed a LOT of people "hate" Honda (being a former Nissan-man, H-bashing was all we did on the forums... but in fun)... but some people go overboard, and cannot honestly understand how good Hondas really are. "American" and "European" brand loyalists are the ones who are more likely to bash Honda or Toyota, and not often for any more significant reason than that they are "cheap". Go figure.

    I personally "hate" Automotive Racism. I think we should like/dislike a vehicle on its own merits, and not based on the (increasingly) misleading badge on the trunk. I laugh at the euro-owners who dislike "japs" or "domestics"... some of the best european-engineered and european-market targetted cars are Fords (developed in Europe), Hondas and Nissans... :lol:

    And anyone who hates Honda is just a damn bigot.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #29
    Di lang naman car brands, ganun din sa products...

    It's really shallow when people bash or praise a brand as a whole while the brand itself has multiple products that may or may not be good at all.

    Basta Sony ok, Basta Nokia ok, etc etc...

    Lastly, resale value is overatted in this country, the only reason why most (not all) people decide to sell their car is when they never took good care of it in the first place, therefore the selling price drops. Tapos inassociate na sa brand or model ng kotse.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    I've noticed a LOT of people "hate" Honda (being a former Nissan-man, H-bashing was all we did on the forums... but in fun)... but some people go overboard, and cannot honestly understand how good Hondas really are. "American" and "European" brand loyalists are the ones who are more likely to bash Honda or Toyota, and not often for any more significant reason than that they are "cheap". Go figure.

    I personally "hate" Automotive Racism. I think we should like/dislike a vehicle on its own merits, and not based on the (increasingly) misleading badge on the trunk. I laugh at the euro-owners who dislike "japs" or "domestics"... some of the best european-engineered and european-market targetted cars are Fords (developed in Europe), Hondas and Nissans... :lol:

    And anyone who hates Honda is just a damn bigot.
    Yes, some hate Hondas because they tend to lead in performance, especially the EK Civic. VTEC VTi is the best, and come the DOHC SiR 2 years later, the competitors had nothing but dropped jaws. Shame because there's no answer from Toyota or Mitsu.

    But I have to disagree that a Honda hater is automatically a bigot. You see, almost all car makers, if not all, have a weak link in their lineup, even the likes of BMW. If one dislikes a Honda because it sucks, then it's obviously justified. Civics are guilty of having less features that what's supposedly standard in the first place, and that's one reason why some loathe them. The current model doesn't live up to the standards of its predecessors either, somewhat a disgrace to the Civic moniker. Additionally, its true engine displacement is mysterious. True, there are many reasons to love a Civic, but there are also a handful of them to make one shy away from buying one.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy
    uy, nagtatanong na siya about SIR na! dami nga nya post dun,e
    everytime he posts, anyone who reads it automatically loses 1 IQ point. even if some people try to give him guide questions, he still goes too general and aimless. :lol:

    he's on my surat list, that's for sure. yes, i'm using a battletech clan term. hehehe.

    back on topic though, agree ako dun sa post ni badkuk.

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    #32
    It's a battle between kugos and this kitikiti person in the other site. Paramihan lang ng posts yung mga yon, ni wala silang 1.6 cars man lang. Awayan nang awayan kunwari.

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    #33
    Nakakatakot mag post dito sa topic. Baka may magalit.

    AS A GENERALIZATION:

    Parang pag LA SALLE ka, automatic, ang kalaban mo ATENEO.
    Pag Mercedes ka, Anti BMW ka.
    Pag Gloria ka, Anti ERAP
    Pag GMA7 ka, Anti ABS-CBN

    Pareho din sa mga cars

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    #34
    Yun nga eh, nakokontrol mga ganun na tao sa mga marketing and external influences, hindi yung utak ginagamit to weigh objectively.

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    #35
    baket nga ba may mag tao ganyan, when i was still in high school almost all my classmates drive their dad's car to school, i presume extra car yun, kya almost every day dala nila, ako once in a blue moon lng nakakadala kasi isa lng kotse namen tapos dami pa nila komentaryo sa dala ko kotse, long hair tawag nila sa kotse erpat ko, kasi naka vinyl top, after so many have passed, nagkita kita kami, mga pros na, they still drive the same cars, well not everybody but yung mga marami sinisabi, halos sila yun parin dala, ako BNEW PAJERO NA! ano say nila!

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    #36
    Sonny: I dont think that's the point of this thread.

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    #37
    Some people who possess a particular brand or belong to a certain group tend to hate others who own a counterpart or belong in another organization simply because of envy. They try to find loopholes in them. I'm pretty sure they wish that they could associate themselves with them. For instance, a driver of an ordinary car sees a more expensive one and begins to say bad things about it. Obviously, he'd long to be the one driving it.

    You don't really have to take sides here, do you? In TV programs, I switch from one channel to another depending on the show. There are things I like in 2 and some in 7, simple as that. As for car brands, I pick the best model in the category and not just look at the badge. Like I said in another thread, there are some cars better made by Honda and others by Toyota; you simply have to scrutinize the lineup in choosing between the two makes.

    Finally, those who hate brands other than what they own are not enthusiasts in any way. They are freaks, bigots even, with no logic at all. Personal bias doesn't count in a car's true worth. A true enthusiast is defined as a knowledgeable, responsible and passionate owner who makes the most out of his or her ride. An old church minister driving a rickety vehicle once said, "It's not the car that gives dignity to the person, but the other way around."

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    #38
    I wouldn't go so far as to call them freaks or bigots. Envy is a fundamental human response to certain situations. Just let them be if they refuse to be educated.

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    #39
    Bigotry is actually defined as: willful ignorance or prejudice or intolerance of any opinion/creed/group differing from his/her own. It's a correct definition of most "haters", as they "hate" regardless of actual merit. It's a little harsh, but technically correct.

    Ever wonder why there aren't a zillion people clamoring for "South Park" to be banned in the US, despite seemingly racist humor? It's because they ridicule all creeds and colors equally. :lol:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by cumbersome
    I wouldn't go so far as to call them freaks or bigots. Envy is a fundamental human response to certain situations. Just let them be if they refuse to be educated.
    They should also let others be...

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