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    #921
    Hayaan niyo na yan. Parang yung kausap ko na sinabe na mas matulin daw adventure niya kaysa sa Grand Starex ko. Eh halos 2 oras ko siya inantay sa kabilang port last year

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    #922
    I don't care if someone's Adventure is faster in terms of top end speed than an Innova really. These are two different engines from two different generations with entirely different gearing and tuning specifications to suit the engine output and fuel system... and these are two vehicles that are not even meant to be driven at high speed if you ask me. I used to drive a fairly maintained Adventure for work and it can go relatively fast but to do so, it sucks quite a lot of fuel too since you have to push the pedal much more whereas the Innova only has to be lightly driven to maintain similar speeds on the highway.

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    #923
    Quote Originally Posted by jyg1995 View Post
    Ayun nag explain ka pala sa bandang huli,sige na nga I agree mas matulin ang Adventure mo sa 2-key-di-ep-ti-bi ng Innova KUNG walang turbo ang innova..opsss nag comment si Angbatangobong Innova and Advie user mas matulin padin daw ang innova EVEN BEFORE THE TURBO KICKS IN..watchutink? May Isa kapang problema wala atang binibentang Innova na walang Turbo.
    Hahha! Ok sir! . Happy new year na lang :]
    Wla akong problema dahil innova owner din ako , Btw I'm a bonafide member of toyota innova club Philippines and innova club of Philippines. , ;)

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    #924
    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    who told you that
    The light weight adventure can't keep up with either my heavy ass xuv a/t and innova
    on that not so steep roads to tagaytay
    Haha. Sige na sir. Ok na po off topic na tayo ee. Ang sakin lang naman po mas Matulin di hamak ang 4d56. Kesa sa d4d kase kita nyo naman po sa montero kung i aaply din kase sa adventure yun di hamak na mas Matulin ang adventure sa innova. Yun po ang ibig kong ipahiwatig.. Even natural aspirated engine sya Matulin pa rin.. Cheers!

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    #925
    Mukhang malakas nainom nito. Baka yun tig 50k na alak na nakita ko sa S&R nadale nito

    Maki-gatong nga at medyo di ko ma-take na mas mabilis ang 4D56 ng Adventure sa 2KD-FTB ng Innova. Pero kung 4D56 ng Montero ang pag-uusapan eh ibang usapan na yun.

    Quote Originally Posted by timming_gear View Post
    Kung tutuisin mas Matulin ang adventure sa d4d innova . Kasi natural aspirated ang engine ng adventure kaya niya makipag sabayan sa mga may technology diesel engine :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by timming_gear View Post
    Haha. Sige na sir. Ok na po off topic na tayo ee. Ang sakin lang naman po mas Matulin di hamak ang 4d56. Kesa sa d4d kase kita nyo naman po sa montero kung i aaply din kase sa adventure yun di hamak na mas Matulin ang adventure sa innova. Yun po ang ibig kong ipahiwatig.. Even natural aspirated engine sya Matulin pa rin.. Cheers!
    1. Kelan naging mas mabilis ang isang engine na ilang dekada na ang tanda compared sa isang engine na kelan lang nilabas? Tsaka ito lang, ilang HP ba ang 4D56 ng Adventure, 90 HP lang ata sa pagkakatanda ko. Ang Innova, nasa 100+. So power palang, halata na kung sino nakakalamang. Isa pang dapat mong tignan ay kung ilan ang torque na kayang i-generate ng mga engine na ito. For sure, lamang na lamang ang Innova dito.

    2. Montero 4D56 is not equal to 4D56 ng Adventure. Mas malakas ang 4D56 ng Montero dahil una, CRDI ito at naka VGT, may turbo in short, so well developed 4D56 ito. 170+ HP ito sa pagkakatanda ko, so talagang kayang unahan nito ang Innova. Ang 4D56 ng Adventure ay yun 4D56 na nakasanayan ng mga tao, or in other terms, L300 engine lang ito na very bare, no electronics, no turbo, old school engine.

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    #926
    Now that I am older, 120kph is already fast for me. But more than a decade ago, I got a speeding infraction along NLEX using a Civic EK logging a little over 200kph.

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    #927
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Hayaan niyo na yan. Parang yung kausap ko na sinabe na mas matulin daw adventure niya kaysa sa Grand Starex ko. Eh halos 2 oras ko siya inantay sa kabilang port last year
    Baka naman sa sobrang ingay ng makina ng adventure kaya feeling ang bilis ng takbo..

    parang syento bente takbo.. syento ingay tapos bente takbo.. hehe.

    happy new year..

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    #928
    160kph gamit si Pango! :-D

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    #929
    Toyota Revo 7k-E MT * 5K RPM (5th gear)

    Mitsubishi Montero GLS V MT 4D56 * 3K RPM (5th gear)

    Max speed ko po, 140KPH, Both vehicles.

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    #930
    Haha hige na.. Ok off topic na. Po

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    #931
    Hindi kasi namin matanggap na matulin ang advie compared sa crdi engines (even i f they were to be naturally aspirated). I can't think of any other 2.5 L engine producing fewer than 73 hp or 143 nm.

    Para hindi naman OT
    2004 Honda Civic 1.6 mt - 140 kph
    Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv - 177 kph
    Toyota Innova 2.5 mt -180 kph
    Mitsubishi adventure 2.5 mt - 155 kph


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    #932
    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Mukhang malakas nainom nito. Baka yun tig 50k na alak na nakita ko sa S&R nadale nito

    Maki-gatong nga at medyo di ko ma-take na mas mabilis ang 4D56 ng Adventure sa 2KD-FTB ng Innova. Pero kung 4D56 ng Montero ang pag-uusapan eh ibang usapan na yun.




    1. Kelan naging mas mabilis ang isang engine na ilang dekada na ang tanda compared sa isang engine na kelan lang nilabas? Tsaka ito lang, ilang HP ba ang 4D56 ng Adventure, 90 HP lang ata sa pagkakatanda ko. Ang Innova, nasa 100+. So power palang, halata na kung sino nakakalamang. Isa pang dapat mong tignan ay kung ilan ang torque na kayang i-generate ng mga engine na ito. For sure, lamang na lamang ang Innova dito.

    2. Montero 4D56 is not equal to 4D56 ng Adventure. Mas malakas ang 4D56 ng Montero dahil una, CRDI ito at naka VGT, may turbo in short, so well developed 4D56 ito. 170+ HP ito sa pagkakatanda ko, so talagang kayang unahan nito ang Innova. Ang 4D56 ng Adventure ay yun 4D56 na nakasanayan ng mga tao, or in other terms, L300 engine lang ito na very bare, no electronics, no turbo, old school engine.
    adventure is definitely slower than innova. when all things equal, driver's skill and road conditions, talo ang adventure. ang layo ng difference sa power output. less than 90hp ang 4d56, 120+ hp ang innova. i driving a crosswind now, kahit anong piga, 120kph top speed.

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    #933
    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    adventure is definitely slower than innova. when all things equal, driver's skill and road conditions, talo ang adventure. ang layo ng difference sa power output. less than 90hp ang 4d56, 120+ hp ang innova. i driving a crosswind now, kahit anong piga, 120kph top speed.
    Actually the adventure's 4d56 engine only produces 72 hp
    and the innova produces 101 hp
    regarding sa crosswind , change filter mo na , tune-up, calibration at kung hindi pa gumana 2t na
    Last edited by crosswind; January 2nd, 2015 at 09:19 AM.

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    #934
    Quote Originally Posted by angbatangobong View Post
    Hindi kasi namin matanggap na matulin ang advie compared sa crdi engines (even i f they were to be naturally aspirated). I can't think of any other 2.5 L engine producing fewer than 73 hp or 143 nm.

    Para hindi naman OT
    2004 Honda Civic 1.6 mt - 140 kph
    Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv - 177 kph
    Toyota Innova 2.5 mt -180 kph
    Mitsubishi adventure 2.5 mt - 155 kph


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    Boss pano mo napaabot ng 155kph yung Advie? Base on experience 110kph hirap na tas parang nasa Super Ferry kana.

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    #935
    Quote Originally Posted by jyg1995 View Post
    Boss pano mo napaabot ng 155kph yung Advie? Base on experience 110kph hirap na tas parang nasa Super Ferry kana.
    diskarte lang yan 4th gear muna siya hanggang 120kph saka mag 5th gear

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    #936
    Quote Originally Posted by angbatangobong View Post
    Hindi kasi namin matanggap na matulin ang advie compared sa crdi engines (even i f they were to be naturally aspirated). I can't think of any other 2.5 L engine producing fewer than 73 hp or 143 nm.

    Para hindi naman OT
    2004 Honda Civic 1.6 mt - 140 kph
    Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv - 177 kph
    Toyota Innova 2.5 mt -180 kph
    Mitsubishi adventure 2.5 mt - 155 kph


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    Paano mo napatakbo yung innova d4-d mo ng 180 kph
    160 kph lang kaya nung saakin
    saka nasa owners manual yung topspeed
    pang vvti na yang 180 na yan

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    #937
    Quote Originally Posted by angbatangobong View Post
    Hindi kasi namin matanggap na matulin ang advie compared sa crdi engines (even i f they were to be naturally aspirated). I can't think of any other 2.5 L engine producing fewer than 73 hp or 143 nm.

    Para hindi naman OT
    2004 Honda Civic 1.6 mt - 140 kph
    Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv - 177 kph
    Toyota Innova 2.5 mt -180 kph
    Mitsubishi adventure 2.5 mt - 155 kph


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    Innova owner kase ako sir. Kasi nung may nakasabayan ako ng adventure sa Sctex haggang 140kph- 155kph nag sabayan kami ng adventure. Sabi ko nakaksabay sa may crdi Kahit dekada na ang engine , 185kph m/t innova sure ka? Yung sakin kase 165kph * 4500 rpm yun mine is 2013 m/t rin. Saan revolution na yung 185kph mo?..

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    #938
    Timming_gear 180kph lang daw Hindi 185kph..

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    #939
    Quote Originally Posted by timming_gear View Post
    Innova owner kase ako sir. Kasi nung may nakasabayan ako ng adventure sa Sctex haggang 140kph- 155kph nag sabayan kami ng adventure. Sabi ko nakaksabay sa may crdi Kahit dekada na ang engine , 185kph m/t innova sure ka? Yung sakin kase 165kph * 4500 rpm yun mine is 2013 m/t rin. Saan revolution na yung 185kph mo?..
    Di kaya gas yung Adventure na nakasabayan mo bro? The 4G63 engine makes 114hp, which should enable it to run with an Innova on a highway sprint.

    I remember reading somewhere that the Innova M/T has rather poorly matched gear ratios for highway driving as compared to the 4AT. Yun kaya yun?

    But then again, 165km/h*4500rpm is a bit low considering that our old Revo diesel M/T pushes 145km/h*4600rpm.

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    #940
    Nakakatawa naman yung nagpapataasan ng ihi ng mga AUV.


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