uncontrolled vehicle smuggling

[ale828]

Local car manufacturers should give multiplt options to buyers.
CBU units are taxed to high which is why smuggling is rampant. plus the limited variants and classes of cars available makes smuggling rampant and profitable.
if only car manufacturers will bring in most of their models that can flourish in a 3rd world country. dami mga hatches, 2 door coupes, small sports car that car manufacturers never bring in officially which is why smuggling is done to fill in a demand for such cars.

[jpdm]

Those who want luxury vehicles buy from legitimate importers that pay correct taxes. And they buyers of luxury vehicles should shoulder the cost. You want to have an expensive vehicle. pay the cost.

Hindi justification yung dahil wala dito yung mga kotseng yun, kaya mag-smuggle na lang. Ang mga smugglers at mga backers nila mga economic saboteurs yan mga yan. Sa China at Vietnam, pag huli ka, death penalty--barilin ka na lang sa sentido. Dapat ganyan gawin sa Pinas kasi perwisyo mga smugglers at indirectly mga parokyano nila. Parang drugs, walang pinagkaiba ang drug pusher at drug addict. parehong perwisyo.

maraming nawawalang ng trabaho. Walang collection ang gobyerno. sino puputukan, taong bayan. more taxes.

Hay...we should stop this vicious cycle.

[jpdm]

Mainit sa Subic Bay ang mga hot smuggled cars......kya mukhang Port Irene naman sa North Luzon ang gagamitin......grabe talaga

Dati Manila, ngayon Subic at Cebu....dahil mahigpit.... Cagayan naman....hay...


May JPEPA!ubos ang local auto industry!

[cocoy]

i thnk for a third world country daw. as we are classified,, local brandnew cars are just way to expensive....if the brand new cars were cheaper wouldnt people then chose brand new cars over second hand ones.. for example a few years ago i would never have thought bout buying original DVDs because it was just way too expensive... now you can get original DVDs for 150.. so theres no need to buy pirated DVDs that are questionable in quality,,,i guess profit is first and foremost the priority of brandnew car dealers...

[jpdm]

Mainit ang smuggling ng kotse. Panay banat ng ANC ngayon.

Dahil hindi na makaya, nagprotesta at nagreklamo na kay Pres. Arroyo ang Ford Motors at Toyota Motors.

Dapat suportahan sila sa kampanya nila laban sa smuggling of vehicles. Sila nalang ang gumagawa ng sasakyan sa Pinas at nagbibigay trabaho sa PInoy.

Lahat ng members ng CAMPI ay puro na importers. so ala silang pakialam dyan.

Nagtuturuan na ang Bureau of Customs, Subic Freeport, Task Force Anti-smuggling ni Gen. Calimlim sa SBMA, at Presidential Anti- Smuggling Task Force.

Gen. Calimlim of SBMA is accusing Custom police, SBMA police and LTO Angeles of connivance. Pag gabi sa isang gate ng Subic pinupuslit nila ang vehicles.

Kung importer ng lamborgini, mukhang yari. kasi yari sa interview yung SBMA custom collector. sya nakapirma sa release paper ng hot cars. nadale sya ni KOrina Sanchez.Hindi na nakatanggi.

Pamangkin ni Hello Garci ang Custom collector ng SBMA.

Puro mga Taga Malacanang daw ang mga utak ng smuggling sa Pinas.

Tanong ni Korina sino ang huhuli sa mga gatekeepers--ang Customs, SBMA at anti-smuggling task force?

[cocoy]

thats the sad fact of our country,,, politics is just too corrupted......

[wildthing]

kaya ng hindi tutuong UNcontrolled yan ng government natin...dahil sila mismo ang NAGCOCONTROL nyan.

the destruction was a show-off para papogi points...kunwari merun nahuhuli.

kanina lang nasa news nasabat sa nueva ecija (galing din yata yun ng SBMA)... other cheaper model cars and some muscle cars (naka car-cover pa para hindi ma-ID yung highend cars).

sabi nung owner, 400+ yung pinarating nya and some 8 where under-taxed...baka daw error ng nag compute ng tax....harharhar.... huli na nagpapalusot pa.

[jpdm]

Habang, ang Cagayan ang ginagamit na entry point ngayon ng smuggled cars......

...nagbabanatan at nagtuturuan na ang dalawang responsable sa pagpigil ng smuggling sa SBMA--sina Mr Arreza and Mr. Calimlim....

[pup2]

Corruption>High Taxes>Smuggling>Corruption IN Smuggling

Kung hindi talaga matigil ang corruption, dapat paliitin and/or gawing minimalist ang gobyerno para lumiit at maging minimalist din ang corruption. My .02.

[VtEC]

Corruption>High Taxes>Smuggling>Corruption IN Smuggling

Kung hindi talaga matigil ang corruption, dapat paliitin and/or gawing minimalist ang gobyerno para lumiit at maging minimalist din ang corruption. My .02.

+1 here.

hay pinas kailan kaya makakabangon sa mga ulanghiyang mga tao.

[cocoy]

i also think that fraternities also play a role in the corruption of our country... i mean,, the line brad ko yun pwedi mo e daan dun.. or wag mo ireport brad ko yun.... what im trying to say will probably get people mad.. but i see it in college level and high school level even.. so what more in the goverment level where money and power is involved....there can be positives of fraternities..but isnt taking advantage of others one of the main issues that highlights fraternities?just asking.....

[VtEC]

i also think that fraternities also play a role in the corruption of our country... i mean,, the line brad ko yun pwedi mo e daan dun.. or wag mo ireport brad ko yun.... what im trying to say will probably get people mad.. but i see it in college level and high school level even.. so what more in the goverment level where money and power is involved....there can be positives of fraternities..but isnt taking advantage of others one of the main issues that highlights fraternities?just asking.....

ha???say that again?
OT: marcos and ninoy (afaik) came from the same frat but they never did what you are trying to point.

[cocoy]

this is my opinion.. and i know i could be wrong.. but are you totally disagreeing to what im trying to say?

[jpdm]

Manila Standard 9-13-2007

Shield vs imported used cars sought Local car makers have urged the government to strictly enforce the laws on importation of vehicles, particularly on used cars with the impending Senate ratification of the highly controversial Japan-Philippines Economic Partnership Agreement.
Elizabeth Lee, president of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc., said the government must guarantee that the partnership agreement would not be detrimental to the local motor industry and would not invite an open dumping of used vehicles in the country.
“We are not at all against the ratification of JPEPA. Certainly, what we need is an assurance from the Philippine government that our industry will be fully protected once the treaty takes into force. Now the question is, will the automotive industry close shop because of JPEPA, the answer is no,” said Lee at a roundtable discussion on the implications of JPEPA in Dusit Hotel organized by the Universal Access to Competitiveness and Trade, a private-led advocacy group.
She cited the provisions of Executive Order 156, which provided for a comprehensive industry policy and directions for the motor vehicle development program and its implementing guidelines, but had not been fully enforced.
Rommel Gutierez, assistant vice president of Toyota Motor Philippines Corp., raised concern that the agreement might be used by some importers to bring in used vehicles.
“We just want to make sure that this EO 256 will be respected and will not be used as a venue for Subic importers to continue their importation of used vehicles. We would like to get more assurance from the government with respect to EO 156,” Gutierez said.
Lee said despite the stiff competition in the local and global market, the automotive industry had gained ground and made inroads since 2004. The industry has 100,000 formal markets and enlisted some 200,000 new registrants.
“But it’s never too late for our local industry. That is why I am very positive that if we do national marketing program and strictly implement the regulation against the importation of used vehicles, then it is never impossible for the Philippines to be at par with other automotive industries in the world,” Lee said.
JPEPA was deemed as the most comprehensive bilateral economic agreement that the country has entered into since the Philippine-US Parity Agreement of 1946. It combines a bilateral investment treaty and a bilateral free trade agreement on goods (manufacturing, agriculture and fisheries) and services.
It also has provisions on intellectual property rights, movement of natural persons, mutual recognition and bilateral cooperation.
The Fair Trade Alliance, meanwhile, said the 1,000-page partnership text showed imbalances, which need to be corrected.
The Philippines, for instance, had committed to liberalize 98 percent of its product lines upon enforcement of the agreement, while Japan would only eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of its total tariff lines, it said.
Rep. Lorenzo Tañada III (4th District, Quezon) urged the Senate to take cognizance of the concerns of various sectors. Elaine Ruzul S. Ramos

[wildthing]

OT

jpdm, you should put your post in quote - matetechnical ka sa Tcash ruling

[altec]

the people making our laws made it with too many loopholes. Yung mga subic na kotse, the law states na yung mga RHD brought into subic will be converted to LHD but should be reexported. What the law allows for converted LHD to be sold locally is trucks, not cars. Unfortunately, our government agencies are too independent of each other, they hardly coordinate. Thus, enterprising individuals have made arrangements with LTO, police, customs, etc., for their individual (personal in effect) requirements. After their lust is satisfied, you switch on the ignition and away you go. Then some enterprising police later on will stop your car and demand you prove that you paid the right taxes. You are guilty until proven innocent! Baliktad na!

Why people still buy? Because it is cheap! And they believe that if it is registered by the LTO, then the records must be straight or else how did it get registered?? But the reality is that records are far from straight. Majority of these car's registration are downright crooked. And why people still import and sell? Because there is money to be made. The system has become too complicated, and entrenched.

What the government should do is not to allow any exemptions. No cars that are not identified as a locally assembled vehicle should be allowed to be registered and renewed. No importations of such luxury cars should be allowed, even if they are willing to pay the proper taxes. This will keep things simple. If your car looks imported, not local, then that car is not legal. Period.

[Hibiki]

Just a thought, why not declare that owning such vehicles as illegal? Or, if LTO has the balls, decline registration of vehicles with questionable origins? I think everyone knows the difference between a local/legal and the smuggled cars.

[jpdm]

i definitely agree.

[NightWinger]

Hay ang rami mayayaman na offical ng goverment dito sa Pinas. Pero ang bansa natin mahirap pa rin. Sino ba kasi nagstart yun subic free port na yan. Si former Prs. Ramos d ba? At saan na si Ramos ngayon? Mas mayaman pa yata sya sa former US president Clinton.

[tip_tipid]

so saan nga ba galing ang yaman ng mga iyan? isep isep....