uncontrolled vehicle smuggling

**kyle618** · August 10th, 2007 02:22 AM

yep, mga sira-sira, poor quality vans, suvs ang dinadala dito and really bad conversion are just a few of the problems. kung mag susmuggle sila dapat orig LHD (euro cars bwhaha) and nothing older than 5 yrs old or kung RHD dapat may nag coconvert na specialist talaga para sure no problems.

**wildthing** · August 10th, 2007 03:16 AM

Who told you that vehicle smuggling is uncontrolled by the govt of Arroyo? .... actually I think THEY CONTROL smuggling.

**moni2burn** · August 10th, 2007 04:59 AM

Good day mga ka tsikot, I am planning to buy an imported sports car and its registered in Diliman, and price is more than 1M, it was brought in by the company "R. Legaspi trading" is there anybody can help me decide if this is a legal doccumented car, I checked with our local LTO and they say its ok, but after reading this thread I`m a bit hessitant of getting the car, can anyone comments or advise on this matter. Thanks in advance.

**jpdm** · August 10th, 2007 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by kyle618

yep, mga sira-sira, poor quality vans, suvs ang dinadala dito and really bad conversion are just a few of the problems. kung mag susmuggle sila dapat orig LHD (euro cars bwhaha) and nothing older than 5 yrs old or kung RHD dapat may nag coconvert na specialist talaga para sure no problems.

So you endorse smuggling.....just asking....

**cocoy** · August 10th, 2007 09:29 AM

smuggled cars we are talking about are the cars that are completely built units right?i mean i saw a second hand parts car selling a chopped up landcruiser... with all the parts together and all you have to do is put it together,. when its all done and finished would it still be considered smuggled?i also want to know why no one seems to be complaining about the giant jeepneys carrying vegetables to manila from the provinces. are they safer than the subic converts which is at least certifided? i mean these jeepneys are bein made in the side of the roads and highways of the provincess.. why is this so? i thnk its obvious.. its just cheaper....in mindanao everywhere you go you will see multicabs running all over the place.. you can buy a perfectly good model for 150,000 or less... but if you buy a brandnew one from suzuki its 400,000.. with that price difference of course there will be a market for second hand or smuggled cars....

**alwayz_yummy** · August 10th, 2007 11:29 AM

as i recall, there's a law--> mas cheaper ang tax ng 10 year old imported car than below 10 years.. pansinin nyo ang trend: you'll now see more 1996-1997 JDM models nowadays..

kung hihimayin natin ang tax, madami talaga, kahit mga jdm importers..

eto lang akin, if gusto mag-iprove ng local industry(and to have more locally assembled/brand/made cars here) baliktarin ang tax and registration system:

almost 0% sa b-new, then 1%every year for 5 years, additional 5% for the next 5 years, then additional 10% for the next 5 years.. so a 15 year-old car will have a registration fee of 1%+5%+10%...

ganyan sa japan, the older the car the bigger the fees are...kaya you'll rather buy a new car than maintaining a second hand one... down side lang, mawawalan/liliit ang market ng used cars...including ang kita ni "manong mekaniko"..

ganyan tinutukoy ko...dito sa atin, yung older car mas mura pa ang rehistro and parts kaysa sa bagong sasakyan, kaya practically, dun ako sa luma...

in this way also, mas madming extras ang makakasama ng dealer sa sasakyan na mabibili mo...

**jpdm** · August 10th, 2007 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by cocoy

smuggled cars we are talking about are the cars that are completely built units right?i mean i saw a second hand parts car selling a chopped up landcruiser... with all the parts together and all you have to do is put it together,. when its all done and finished would it still be considered smuggle

These are all smuggled--outright, technical, misdeclaration--bad for our economy. the Multi cabs of Norkis, are paying the right taxes, hence, may kamahalan pa rin at 150,000 pero di perwisyo sa bansa.

Yan galing sa Subic, junk na, illegal pa. They dont pay taxes. Pinupuslit nila ang mga sasakyan sa free port. bawal yan.

**jpdm** · August 10th, 2007 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by moni2burn

Good day mga ka tsikot, I am planning to buy an imported sports car and its registered in Diliman, and price is more than 1M, it was brought in by the company "R. Legaspi trading" is there anybody can help me decide if this is a legal doccumented car, I checked with our local LTO and they say its ok, but after reading this thread I`m a bit hessitant of getting the car, can anyone comments or advise on this matter. Thanks in advance.

With a budget of 1million, my suggestion is that you buy na lang a Ford Focus, diesel. brand new, High tech, with good warranty and after sales service, with available parts at higit sa lahat, locally assembled pa

....wag na yung sport car...maraming moon crater sa Pinas......tsaka traffic dito.....takaw mata pa sa mga carjacker at holdupper.....

**jpdm** · August 15th, 2007 07:07 AM

Anti-smuggling group tracking down 400 hot cars from Subic
By Perseus Echeminada
Wednesday, August 15, 2007 The Presidential Anti Smuggling Task Group (PASG) is closely working with the Land Transportation Office (LTO) to track down some 400 imported cars reportedly issued gate passes from the Subic Free Port and which have found their way to different display centers in Metro Manila and other parts of the country.
Undersecretary Antonio Villar, who also acts as PASG chief, said he is now coordinating with the LTO to verify if the owners of the “hot cars” registered the vehicles.
“We are coordinating with Assistant Secretary Reynaldo Berroya for records of the newly registered cars in Diliman and Toledo offices,” Villar said in a radio interview.
The PASG chief said that the “hot cars” suddenly disappeared a day after they were supposed to conduct inspections.
He said the operators of the car display centers might have been warned of the impending inspection, prompting them to pull out the cars and hide them.
Villar said they are now closely monitoring warehouses where the vehicles were temporarily kept.
The PASG earlier tagged the LTO office in Diliman, Quezon City and the Toledo office in Cebu as the favorite “registration office” of smuggled luxury cars from Subic and Cebu ports.
He said the modus operandi of the smugglers is to register the chassis number of a “hot car” and on the basis of that serial number a license plate is then issued so that the vehicle can be sold to unsuspecting buyers.
The smuggled luxury cars are usually slipped into the country through major international ports in connivance with erring Customs officials. Some of the cars are dismantled and placed in container vans. The hot cargo is mostly misdeclared and undervalued and its real contents only known when the vans are opened for inspection.

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**Dr.Kamiya** · August 15th, 2007 08:20 AM

I think it's important to distinguish between real smugglers, and legitimate gray-market importers, as the tone of the article seems to lump all of them together into one steaming pile. Whlist CAMPI members are accorded huge tax incentives, gray importers actually have to pay the proper amount, and these guys are a very significant source of customs revenue (assuming, of course, that the money goes to the right place).

My guess is this scrapping of luxury cars (in the other thread) is really all for show, and likely will involve just cars from the people that rubbed shoulders with "friends of PGMA" the wrong way.