pag-neutral ng 'matic?

[istan]

Hmm...so its bad to drive from Tagaytay to Sta Rosa on neutral, all the way? Since downhill sya. I did that maybe 4x na in a span of 2 years.
I did Tagaytay - Batangas (Starting from the subdivision w/ wall fountains sa labas going to Punta Fuego) Yun nice road dun. All downhill too.

Speed is 60 - 100kph on the Tagaytay to Batangas stretch,
60kph on tagaytay to Sta Rosa stretch. Both 20kms easy. Neutral lng ha.

No tranny damage, total mileage 50,000km na.

Yes, even on manuals, I'm a neutral driver basta downhill at di matao. Sanay na.

[mbeige]

He was supposedly given a spiked drink by a female companion while they drove around. When he got knocked out, all his money and jewelry were stolen and the thief escaped.

I guess we'll never know because the guy didn't file a report afterwards.

That's...just...sad. Then again, that's a whole new issue. I guess in this case he would have been better off driving a manual para stall na lang siya kaysa sa run away yung car.

[OTEP]

I'm a neutral driver basta downhill at di matao. Sanay na.

Meron ding sanay ng hindi naka-seatbelt and that doesn't make motoring any safer, too.

Freewheeling is outlawed in a lot of regions and it's outlawed for a reason. There's nothing bad about staying in the right gear be it manual or automatic. Safety is not something to get lazy about (most freewheelers I know give me the I'm-too-lazy-to-shift reason).

[ian_rex]

agree with Sir Otep. why compromise safety over convenience, anyway? not because you could handle not being in gear while going downhill inspite of experience doesn't guarantee your safety. being on neutral going downhill puts unecessary strain on your brakes that could atribute to brake fading. when this happens, it is an accident waiting to happen. not to mention the traction idea when being in gear.

[yuichi]

Hmm...so its bad to drive from Tagaytay to Sta Rosa on neutral, all the way? Since downhill sya. I did that maybe 4x na in a span of 2 years.
I did Tagaytay - Batangas (Starting from the subdivision w/ wall fountains sa labas going to Punta Fuego) Yun nice road dun. All downhill too.

Speed is 60 - 100kph on the Tagaytay to Batangas stretch,
60kph on tagaytay to Sta Rosa stretch. Both 20kms easy. Neutral lng ha.

No tranny damage, total mileage 50,000km na.

Yes, even on manuals, I'm a neutral driver basta downhill at di matao. Sanay na.

ilang beses ka na nagpalit ng brake pads bro?

[alwayz_yummy]

remember:

pang pinagkaiba ng mt sa at: kung iwan mo sa d ang a/t, tatakbo parin yan until the engine runs out of fuel... ang mt, pag nabitawan mo ang clutch patay makina.... do safety, pag long traffic, N/P kayo...wag nyo sabihin na alam nyo nakapreno kayo...pag nangawit kayo, aalisin nyo din yang paa nyo sa preno, e may instances na makakalimutan nyong naka D kayo..


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Originally Posted by istan View Post
Hmm...so its bad to drive from Tagaytay to Sta Rosa on neutral, all the way? Since downhill sya. I did that maybe 4x na in a span of 2 years.
I did Tagaytay - Batangas (Starting from the subdivision w/ wall fountains sa labas going to Punta Fuego) Yun nice road dun. All downhill too.

Speed is 60 - 100kph on the Tagaytay to Batangas stretch,
60kph on tagaytay to Sta Rosa stretch. Both 20kms easy. Neutral lng ha.

No tranny damage, total mileage 50,000km na.

Yes, even on manuals, I'm a neutral driver basta downhill at di matao. Sanay na.

init ng preno mo, pre..i pray na di ka sabugan ng gulong while doing this.....

[boybi]

mas madali ngang mag drive downhill using engine brake than pedal brake especially kung M/T.

[Elroi]

when in traffic, i always put it in N then handbrake. pero pag tantya ko na sandali lang, stay na lang sa D and press the brake.

pag magpa-park na (on a flat level), tapak sa brake, shift to N, release paa sa brake, (medyo gagalaw ng konti yung oto) then pull handbrake, tapak sa brake saka pa lang shift sa P.. ganito na practice ko eversince so as not to put to much strain on the tranny. kung minsan kasi pag shift from P to D, maramdaman mo may tunog yung pagrelease ng lock sa P..

[istan]

ilang beses ka na nagpalit ng brake pads bro?

Once pa lng po, nun nag 40k km yun car. Its normal on matics na 40k palit brake pads noh? On both front wheels.

Oh yeah, I don't step on brakes if I'm not stopping. So brakes are not madly heating up. Also, I step on brakes lightly, to slow it down. Di rin ako tinatamad mag shift. On manuals, I'm constantly shifting, to get the right revs.

Ah! Oo nga pala, on roads that's like in Tagaytay highlands or similar. you've got to be crazy not to use engine braking. I just put it in neutral when roads are around 5 degrees downhill, conserving momentum, while not madly increasing speeds.

Yeah, I am fully aware on the conseqences of neutral driving. Thats why when I do that, its on open roads.

Tagaytay to Sta. Rosa = 60kph max, you'll not increase in speed na once you reach 60kph.
Tagaytay to Batangas = 80kph - 100kph, when u reach 100kph...bababa na speeds mo to 80kph, hilly ang daan. After that downhill na naman. On curves, syempre apak ka konti ng brakes.

[CVT]

I understand that we all have our personal preferences. I would just like to encourage the group not to 'drive our vehicles in angel gear,- neutral'.

Delikado po.

[OTEP]

Even on level ground may naaksidente because of freewheeling. But we are not your parents so you don't have to listen to us.

[Alpha_One]

Basta turo sakin ng tatay ko, wag mag freewheel habang downhill. Ika nga niya, tipid ka sa gas, ubos naman preno mo, at pag naubos ang preno mo, laking gastos niyan!

Besides, modern EFI systems don't give the engine any fuel if the car is coasting in gear. So mas matipid pag nakagear kesa mag freewheel.

[istan]

Oo nga, each has he/her own style in driving. Basta wag ma-aksidente..go lng.

So...back to topic...nasisira ba ang tranny pag neutral lng, at nagtravel ka ng malayo layo? Hmm..if ever, abangan...from me.

[matty]

when going down let say from the parking of mall of asia, is it correct to just put it in D and use the breaks? or dapat mag-shift ako to a lower gear and use the engine break? the gears of my AT are P-R-D-S-L. Mas tama ba if I put it in L before going down? Also, masisira ba transmission ko if when i'm down already I shift back to D while in motion or should I go to a complete stop first?

[rollyms]

when going down let say from the parking of mall of asia, is it correct to just put it in D and use the breaks? or dapat mag-shift ako to a lower gear and use the engine break? the gears of my AT are P-R-D-S-L. Mas tama ba if I put it in L before going down? Also, masisira ba transmission ko if when i'm down already I shift back to D while in motion or should I go to a complete stop first?

Ako pag galing sa parking lot ng malls or sa basement parking sa office naka low gear. Pagdating sa street level shift sa D without coming to a full stop. Minsan dahil ang attention ko ay nasa street traffic at paano maka singgit makalimutan kong nasa low gear ako. Pag napansin ko shift ako to D. The fastest speed I have done this is 40kph (D2 to D). Parang wala naman problema. But I don't know the explanation kung bakit masama ang N to D while moving. I just follow the rule of shifting from N to D from a full stop.

[OTEP]

when going down let say from the parking of mall of asia, is it correct to just put it in D and use the breaks? or dapat mag-shift ako to a lower gear and use the engine break? the gears of my AT are P-R-D-S-L. Mas tama ba if I put it in L before going down? Also, masisira ba transmission ko if when i'm down already I shift back to D while in motion or should I go to a complete stop first?

It's a relatively short descent. You can ride your brakes all the way. However, going into a lower gear allows for more control. You do not need to stop to shift back to 'D' since it is a 'higher' gear than 'L'. The vehicle will then upshift on its own.

[matty]

i see. thanks! =) i thought masama kasi sa tranny yung L to D. I have to read the manual again. parang nakalagay kasi dapat complete stop ako before getting out of L. Also I have to push the button first.

How about the other way around? like let say i'm going up and then I feel that hirap ang engine, can I shift to L without stopping? or is it a bad idea?

[OTEP]

How about the other way around? like let say i'm going up and then I feel that hirap ang engine, can I shift to L without stopping? or is it a bad idea?

If you are running within the specified speed range of the gear you are planning to shift to, then you can just shift directly to that gear. Otherwise, adjust your speed before shifting. Nasa manual din po ito, sir.

[swimstroke]

Nasa taas na pala yung explanation.

[matty]

If you are running within the specified speed range of the gear you are planning to shift to, then you can just shift directly to that gear. Otherwise, adjust your speed before shifting. Nasa manual din po ito, sir.

Maraming salamat!