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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    is the said road subjected also to the same load conditions experienced by the NLEX?
    i may say that the portion of macarthur highway i mentioned was subjected to more road torture than the NLEX. first, it is much older than the rehabilitated NLEX (nicolodeon mentioned it was reconstructed in the mid-70s, so it must be at least 30 yrs old already), and dinadaan pa ito ng mga overloaded sugarcane trucks, sand and gravel dump trucks, etc.


    how many potholes do you see per kilometer of NLEX? for my daily 20km drive through NLEX - I can only recall only 1 pothole & 1 uneven surface along the entire stretch.
    that's just the 20kms you see. how about the other 60kms of it? i traverse the NLEX around twice a week, and every time, the repair work is at different portions. there were times that entire portions of a lane e binakbak, example is the long bridge (candaba viaduct ba tawag dun?). then, just yesterday, there was a sign/notice posted along the way (forgot the exact location) na parang isasara pa yata buong north bound portion at i-memerge sa southbound lane yung traffic.

    another thing - do they charge you an additional fee when they repair potholes? IMO - we should take this positively that at least they are doing repairs ASAP.
    yes they are not charging us for the repairs, but with the billions spent in the rehabilitation, i'm expecting that NLEX will be pothole free for 10 yrs, 5 at the least. with so much repairs done this early, don't you think it will dwindle their resources unexpectedly and they'll be asking for a toll increase sooner? if this will be the case, then it's just like we will be paying for the repairs.

    and with such a big project, parang kulang ang study na ginawa nila. yung northbound portion between balintawak and valenzuela, hindi ba nila alam na bumabaha dyan dati pa? e nung tapos na i-pave yung road, binakbak ulit para lagyan ng drainage. another one is the roads under the overpasses in pampanga area. they paved the road without measuring the height of the lowest part of the overpass. ayun, meron sumalpok na trailer. bakbak ulit sa lahat ng portions that are under overpasses.
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    #22
    oo nga, bakit ganyan...

    agree with boybi, hindi naman problema yung nirerepair, pero ang tanong (innocent question) why the need for repairs so early in the first place?

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    #23
    logical answer, substandard raw materials..who knows

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    #24
    whew, boybi for president!!!!

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    hello garci....yung dagdag, yung dagdag :bwahaha:
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    #26
    nagmahal na nga tapos ganyan pa rin.

    kumonti na nga lang ang dumadaan dahil nagmahal e, lalo sigurong sira kung yung dating volume ang dumadaan. karamihan sa macarthur na eh.

    kaya akala nung iba eh bumilis talaga ang biyahe...
    ang improvement lang naman talaga sa tingin ko - ay yung sa balintawak... minsan nga ay nag-bottleneck pa din dun.. tsk.

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    #27
    constant user of NLEX here. Everytime i use the expressway either NLEX or SLEX i always take the fast lane. in NLEX, i find myself zipping in and out from the passing lane to the slow lane because there are ongoing repairs or whatever that is and they have to block the road with pylons. from balintawak to san fernando, i think i see no less than 6 of these road repairs.

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    #28
    OT: Would the road have less chances of developing potholes if the trucks or vehicles travelling on it have a faster speed limit/minimum speed? Do trucks and buses have a special lane also? I would assume if they had a special lane with higher quality asphalt the road would probably last longer.

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    #29
    Almost every trip ko to Pangasinan eh may inaayos lagi sa NLEX.

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    #30
    From what I heard, kaya di sila nagtataas ng toll kahit sunod-sunod ang pagrepair sa NLEX kasi its still under warranty from the Leighton Co at yun ang sinasamantala ng MNTC. Kaso, pano pag nag-expire na yung warranty?

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    #31
    Tsaka akala ko ba na nag-e-enforce yung NLEX ng Anti-Overloading Law as stated in their billboards. Diba dapat nababawasan yung pagpasok ng overloaded trucks sa NLEX kung masipag sila sa tungkulin nila na ito?

  12. Heretic Guest
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    There were a lot of overtaking vehicles who traversed on the slow lane last Wednesday and Thursday and yet you won't see the NLEX Hiluxes and authorities in action. I think they were just letting the vehicles get away because of the ongoing constructions (lanes, not just potholes).

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic
    There were a lot of overtaking vehicles who traversed on the slow lane last Wednesday and Thursday and yet you won't see the NLEX Hiluxes and authorities in action. I think they were just letting the vehicles get away because of the ongoing constructions (lanes, not just potholes).
    around 2 weeks ago, i saw a Pepsi Nissan Ad Resort overtook a MNTC Patrol car on the shoulder near Sta. Ines. this was in the evening. i just saw the MNTC Patrol flash its headlights, but nothing more. dapat nagwangwang na yung patrol at hulihin yung nagovertake. pero mukhang nagiging katulad na rin ng mga police natin ang MNTC patrol, tamad manghuli/humabol. kapag ganyan sila palagi, talagang hindi magiging disiplinado ang mga gagamit ng NLEX.
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    #34
    looks like cheap lowgrade asphalts. Baka makacause pa ng accidents yan mga road repairs na yan

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    #35
    meron na naman reblocking kanina sa NLEX, along the southbound of the open system. talagang everytime i traverse the NLEX, meron bagong portion na under repair.
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    #36
    the last two weeks, everyday akong pabalik balik ng metromanila. and almost everyday meron panibagong nirerepair sa NLEX. ano ba talaga problema nila?

    sa palagay ko, sadyang minadali talaga ng MNTC na tapusin yung NLEX para makapag collect na agad sila ng toll fees. tapos ngayon nila ulit binabakbak portion by portion ang NLEX para ayusin ng tama yung pagkakaconstruct nila na minadali nila. yan lang talaga ang naisip kong dahilan kung bakit puro repairs na ang NLEX with just a little over six months in operation.
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    #37
    d ba may part ng NLEX na swampland, baka malambot lupa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    the last two weeks, everyday akong pabalik balik ng metromanila. and almost everyday meron panibagong nirerepair sa NLEX. ano ba talaga problema nila?

    sa palagay ko, sadyang minadali talaga ng MNTC na tapusin yung NLEX para makapag collect na agad sila ng toll fees. tapos ngayon nila ulit binabakbak portion by portion ang NLEX para ayusin ng tama yung pagkakaconstruct nila na minadali nila. yan lang talaga ang naisip kong dahilan kung bakit puro repairs na ang NLEX with just a little over six months in operation.

    That is why against ako sa sobrang laki ng tollfees. Isang rainy season pa lang yan eh sira agad. Pero mukhang tama ang theory mo. Used a substandard material and ask for an increase later to shoulder the repair. Nasaan na yung Billion Peso Project Chuva Ever? Mukhang wala pang one million pesos worth of low-grade asphalt ang ginamit. Naubos yata sa BMW motorcycle patrols. In the end, taxpayers will shoulder the rest of the bill.

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    #39
    LAst saturday umuwi kami ng pangasinan. We left at around 5am. Pagdating sa may viaduct, nagcocrawl yung traffic kasi two lanes lang ang pwede. 80% ng viaduct heavy traffic, kasabay namin mga 6 wheeler trucks. Napansin ko wala namang tractor or mga workers, basta sarado yung outer left most lane. It took us almost 20 min, medyo inabot na kami ng sunrise.

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    #40
    whew, boybi for president!!!!
    Oo nga boybi for president..

    nagcocrawl yung traffic kasi two lanes lang ang pwede. 80% ng viaduct heavy traffic, kasabay namin mga 6 wheeler trucks. Napansin ko wala namang tractor or mga workers, basta sarado yung outer left most lane. It took us almost 20 min, medyo inabot na kami ng sunrise.
    Thats another upcoming repair..hehe.. Or sinara nila para hindi muna daanan yung bagong repair or ayaw nila padaanan yung mga nirepair na nila..

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