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    There are a lot of safety driving guides online and on youtube ... you could learn more from there than just a few hours from a driving instructor ...

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    10 yr old Ateneo student namatay

    (UPDATE) Ateneo pupil dies after being pinned by cars | ABS-CBN News
    A pupil of Ateneo de Manila Grade School (AGS) died Tuesday after being pinned in between two vehicles inside the school campus.

    Amiel Alcantara, 10, a Grade 4 pupil at the school, was on his way to their family vehicle along with siblings Jana and Javier, nanny Tata Suarez, their driver Khan Nyugen Alcasabas and a friend of Javier around 3:45 p.m. when a Toyota Hi-Ace van suddenly lurched towards a Honda CRV and another vehicle.

    Alcantara was found underneath the two vehicles. He was hurriedly pulled out and rushed to New Era Hospital by another parent, Alcasabas, and Maria Teresa Torres, the driver of the van.

    Alcantara died at the hospital at around 5 p.m. after suffering from head injuries.

    Suarez meanwhile suffered fractures in her shins and ankles and was taken to the school infirmary for treatment.

    The Alcantaras formally filed a complaint against Torres, a parent of a fellow Grade 4 pupil, who was also waiting for her child at the time of the incident.

    Prior to the incident, Torres' driver alighted from their van, after which she took over the wheel to drive it forwards. An official statement from Ateneo de Manila University said that according to her however, the van "accelerated uncontrollably" and hit the victims and the cars.

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    Standard naman sa AT na press brake in order to shift to D or R di ba? So when you slowly release the brake pedal and the car starts to crawl, when you notice something or someone blocking your way, di ba the natural reflex is to push the brake in again? Why would the driver shift his foot to the right to brake? Let's say the foot is already at the gas pedal, did the driver forget that he shifted to gas to make the car run faster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Standard naman sa AT na press brake in order to shift to D or R di ba? So when you slowly release the brake pedal and the car starts to crawl, when you notice something or someone blocking your way, di ba the natural reflex is to push the brake in again? Why would the driver shift his foot to the right to brake? Let's say the foot is already at the gas pedal, did the driver forget that he shifted to gas to make the car run faster?
    Sa Mobilio namin, you only need to press the brake pedal when going down from P. Naging habit ko na rin na ang paa ko, mas malapit sa brake pedal. Slant to the right na lang pag apak ng gas. Rarely na rin ako umapak ng gas when reversing, unless, medyo steep yung aatrasan ko at di na kaya ng kusa. Pero I still don't press hard eh.

    Maybe some drivers talaga eh hindi fit to drive kahit pa sabihing marunong syang magpa-andar ng sasakyan? I mentioned magpa-andar kasi para sa akin iba yung marunong kang magpa-andar (atras, abante, liko liko) ng sasakyan at sa marunong magdrive (with knowledge to traffic rules, discipline, etc).

    Just my 2 centavos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Standard naman sa AT na press brake in order to shift to D or R di ba? So when you slowly release the brake pedal and the car starts to crawl, when you notice something or someone blocking your way, di ba the natural reflex is to push the brake in again? Why would the driver shift his foot to the right to brake? Let's say the foot is already at the gas pedal, did the driver forget that he shifted to gas to make the car run faster?
    Theory ko dito, since yung AT tends to slowly crawl even without stepping on the gas pedal diba, ang ginagawa natin is the other way around, instead of using the gas pedal, we play with the brake pedal instead to crawl (when parking, or maniubra), carefully lifting and stepping our foot to the brake pedal. Now akala ng brain natin ay ang gas pedal ang nilalaro ng paa natin, Kaya ang tendency, pag nabigla ka, reflex ay lilipat ang paa mo sa other pedal which is the gas. Ang gulo haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Now akala ng brain natin ay ang gas pedal ang nilalaro ng paa natin, Kaya ang tendency, pag nabigla ka, reflex ay lilipat ang paa mo sa other pedal which is the gas. Ang gulo haha.

    Illogical conclusion ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikling View Post
    ito'y particular sa mga baguhan driver at lalo na sa mga babae.

    sa mga iba lalo na sa mga nakatira sa city at yung ibang work at bahay lang, hindi siguro nila nababalitaan o nakakakita ng mga aksidente dahil sa automatic na car.

    pero sa mga gaya kong nasa probinsya, gala at maramingggg kamag-anak, kaibigan at kakilala, madalas akong makabalita o makakita ng ganitong pangyayari.

    nangyayari kasi, imbes na yung break ang maapakan, e yung gas, diin o sagad yung apak kasi nga magpreno sana kaya resulta, sobrang sirit ng car. nakakalungkot neto may personal na akong nasaksihan, yung isa co-teacher nya, patay kasi nasa harapan lang niya, yung isa naman, 2 anak nya, patay din kasi nasa harapan din. yung isa naman, nagpa-park, yung bunggo nasa harapan. mga personal na nasaksihan ko yan, di pa kabilang mga nabalitaan ko.

    di maiiwasan kasi minsan yung mabigla ka, mag-panic, ma-block, etc kaya yung paa di na maintindihan kung saan ang apak.

    magaling sa manual kasi kahit mabigla ka, instinct na dun sa left foot mo na apakan ng sagad yung clutch, so safe kahit silinyador maapakan mo.

    kaya sa mga baguhang driver lalo na sa mga girls dapat manual na lang car nyu.

    sana ang automatic pag tinapakan ng sagad yung gas inde sya sisirit ng takbo.
    Who are you to tell me what car I should drive dahil babae ako. I've been driving since I was 16 so that's 2 decades. I NEVER had an accident and I'm not what you would stereotype as a typical lady driver. I can driver fast and park in the tightest spaces

    Take your stereotyping elsewhere. Wala sa length of driving, age or gender. Nasa tao talaga yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Who are you to tell me what car I should drive dahil babae ako. I've been driving since I was 16 so that's 2 decades. I NEVER had an accident and I'm not what you would stereotype as a typical lady driver. I can driver fast and park in the tightest spaces

    Take your stereotyping elsewhere. Wala sa length of driving, age or gender. Nasa tao talaga yan.

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    Kalma po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Who are you to tell me what car I should drive dahil babae ako. I've been driving since I was 16 so that's 2 decades. I NEVER had an accident and I'm not what you would stereotype as a typical lady driver. I can driver fast and park in the tightest spaces

    Take your stereotyping elsewhere. Wala sa length of driving, age or gender. Nasa tao talaga yan.

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    Easy ka lang mam cathy. You got a point.

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    Not really. I have driven countless automatics over the years and I have never had any problems stemming from the transmission being automatic. All that is really needed is observation of proper maintenance procedures and regular practice.

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    In an instant. Nagbago buhay nung nakasagasa at pamilya ng sinagasaan.

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    I'm so disappointed that machismo culture is alive and well in the Philippines. I'm out of this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm so disappointed that machismo culture is alive and well in the Philippines. I'm out of this thread

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    Sad no? People should know better now.

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    Accidents are caused by lack of skill or concetration of driver, REGARDLESS OF GENDER or AGE.

    What you should be pushing for is driver awareness and capabality development, not gender exclusion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Accidents are caused by lack of skill or concetration of driver, REGARDLESS OF GENDER or AGE.

    What you should be pushing for is driver awareness and capabality development, not gender exclusion.


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    I agree on this. As an example, this guy being 67 years old is the kind of driver I'd like to imitate. Well, the way he parks at least...

    https://youtu.be/yPFLrQZ_MRg

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    Ang dami pang "emergency Control" ilalagay eh kung gunggong talaga Drivers walang mangyayari.

    Kung sa automatic lang nahirapan na eh di pag meron pang kung ano ano ilagay


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ang dami pang "emergency Control" ilalagay eh kung gunggong talaga Drivers walang mangyayari.

    Kung sa automatic lang nahirapan na eh di pag meron pang kung ano ano ilagay

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    spot on bro, agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    spot on bro, agree with you.
    sa panahon ngayon lahat gusto gawin auto e, i think pati wipers yata meron na auto? kahit na how easy it is na i-on ang wipers if needed

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    What the TS stated is actually true, although sana hindi na lang nya diniin yung tungkol sa gender issue. My opinion on this is that when you "panic" (due to wrong placement of foot to the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal and for whatever reason/s there were), regardless of gender and age and number of years of experience in driving...no one can help you except you "yourself". The sooner you get to your senses the better chances for you to do corrective actions, imho...

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    Regarding age limit. There is no denying that age dulls one skill. Father time is undefeated.

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