Loremo: Ultra Efficient Car - 157 MPG!

[BlueBimmer]

German Loremo AG will introduce their ultra Efficient Car at the Motor Show 2006 (site) in Geneva next week.



The car start-up developed a light-weight passenger car with outstanding aerodynamics. The Loremo LS is powered by a 2 cylinder Turbo Diesel engine with 20 hp and 160km/h top speed. The amazing thing is that the Loremo only needs 1.5l per 100km. This is approx. 157MPG!


The Toyota Prius hybrid has only 55MPG (combined city and highway).
With one tank (20l) you could drive 1,300km.

Loremo AG plans to sell the Loremo LS for less than 11,000 Euros (~$13,000).

One reason for the low consumption is the low weight of 450kg. The company designed the Loremo focusing on safety and efficiency and got rid of unnecessary functions. The car is small but still provides space for 4.
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The design of the car is very futuristic and has for instance no conventional doors.


Loremo AG also plans to offer the Loremo GS with a bit stronger engine (50 hp, 2.7l/100km) that reaches top speeds of 220km/h (for the German Autobahn).
More details on the Loremo site.

[seonadancing]

20hp car that goes 160kmh and only uses 1.5l per 100km. Too good to be true but i'm hoping that it is.

[rebel]

Maybe it didn't mention how long it would take for the car to reach 160kmh on a straight line and how long it should maintain at what speed in order to only consume only 1.5L of diesel for every 100km.

But for the sake of expensive fuel I hope it works.

Wonder if it would pass the standards of crash test both in USA and Europe

[theveed]

gaan siguro nyan

[niky]

I can believe it. 20 hp is enough if the car is slippery and light.

If just 80 hp can propel a 2-ton AUV with the aerodynamics of a brick to 140 km/h, I suppose just 20 can do the same for something weighing less than 1/4 as much and with much much less drag.

Wonder how much it'll cost? Looks like a good alternative to a motorbike.

[rebel]

Well I have visited their site and in words it's very promising.

Problem is we all have to wait until 2009 if they make it to production.

[mazdamazda]

er... no conventional doors?

so how do you get in? i suppose by removing the roof and jumping into the cockpit?

[rebel]

On their site it says the car only weights 450kg!!!!!

O to 100km/h in 20 secs.

[orly_andico]

according to howstuffworks it only takes 20hp to propel a conventional car at 55mph including the hotel load (A/C, power steering, electricals). a conventional car weighs 3X as much as this loremo.

but $13000 for such a tiny car means it costs as much as a civic. it would not sell well here. if the price were $5000, now we're talking!

idea: suzuki multicab/super carry, some versions have a 660cc gasoline turbo. they get piss-poor fuel mileage because people in the provinces load tons of people on them and the engine wheezes. but -- with the proper lightweight body (even if not as aerodynamic as the loremo) it would probably be OK.

i guess that's the idea of the norkis legacy, unfortunately the legacy is uglific. if someone could make a norkis legacy alike for say 300,000 that carries 4 people and doesn't look like a Japanese junkyard refugee, it might have a market here.

[BlueBimmer]

i'd get one if it will be available here, 1.5L per 100kms is just too good to pass up. sarap ibyahe to, wala kang problema sa gastos.

[oldblue]

450kg vehicle wai means that pag binangga ka sa expressway, mas malayo tilapon mo hehehe

[rebel]

well the siguro kasing layo din yan ng 1.5L per 100km ratio and poportion.

Pag average car 1,500 kg pag binanga at 50km/h siguro talsik ng 10 meters since the loremo weights only 450kg it means 3x and distance na tatalsikan ng kotse na ito

[badkuk]

also,not the type of car you'd want to be stuck in on an expressway pag binabagyo B)

[GasJunkie]

also,not the type of car you'd want to be stuck in on an expressway pag binabagyo B)

wahahahhahahhahaha

[niky]

450 kg is not that light. Kung carbon fiber, that should be strong enough. a 550 kg cf F1 (and remember, most of that weight is in the huge engine and the ballast... the car would be much lighter otherwise) can enable drivers to survive crashes that would instantly squash riders in a normal car.

Given it's just a two cylinder 20hp diesel (siguro 50 kg total) and it's carbon fiber, that means it would likely weigh around 600-700 kg kung metal at kung 1.5-1.6 ang makina.

We could probably make a local version with decent crash safety (c'mon, mura lang ang rollcage ), but sourcing a modern 2-cylinder diesel would be the tough part.

Maybe if we re-invent the cycle-car? It's easy enough... Two-stroke or four-stroke thumper or twin cylinder diesel, chain driver rear wheels (or even front wheels) motorcycle rims and tires (light), aluminum tube frame (strong, light, safe) and fiberglass shells with proper aerodynamics.... you can get over 100 mpg easy and still carry three or four passengers.

[orly_andico]

niky, kaya nga yung 3-cylinder 660cc na daihatsu engine in the norkis legacy and suzuki super carry

i've been thinking about that locally-fabricated car for some time, but i was thinking electric. it'd never fly though -- look at norkis, they took apart a perfectly OK car and turned it into... the norkis legacy.

paano pa kaya kung build the car from scratch?

[Flagg]

Kunin ko yung 50hp Loremo Evolution. Mas mabigat naman siguro yun.

[bajumbo]

hmmmm... di ba may binebenta sa Visayas or Mindanao (not the avenue ha) na parang carry all? 300k isa... ano ba yun? nakakita n kc ako sa Quezon province nun eh. pede pang pang all terrain

[orly_andico]

prolly the suzuki super carry. 300k is way too much for one though, i think they sell in cebu for as low as 75k (some/much repair required though). there's even a version that's 4wd and has a center diff.

[niky]

When the Super Carry came in, 75k lang siya (back in the 90's). I think they still sell converted ones for around 70k, that's the jeepney conversion with three or four a side in the back. One of my acquaintances bought three for his school in the North when he went to Davao.

The Super Carry engine would be okay, but it's not that frugal for a 600cc (carb kasi, so consumption is akin to a modern 1000cc). Still, the Super Carry formula lends itself very well to DIY and hotrodding. There's shops that do micro-owner type jeeps off of a Super Carry frame and engine. With very little bodywork to haul around... it hauls a$$. :evillaugh

Cycle-cars are something Filipinos could make easily, and make well. Look at the various electric bikes, motorised bikes, kuliglig conversions, etcetera, on the road. Just teach them how to make a rigid and safe crash structure, and we'd be all set. A four wheeled Cycle-car, powered by a 150cc motorbike engine, with a six passenger (including driver) capacity would be a safer and more practical alternative to the tricycle deathtraps we have speeding along our city streets.

The only mod needed for the motorbike engine is a bigger gear for the rear wheel, to increase low-down pulling power.