ano ba ang real score ng korean cars sa atin or even in the world?
cheaper price, highly improved quality, nice designs and engines (crdi).
good price considering of its feature plus really good and fuel efficient CRDi engines
Times have really changed, before pag sinabi na Korean car bad impression kaagad, pero now Koreans have improved a lot in terms of quality so much so that they rank right up there along with Toyota and Honda. Ive been using a Starex for more than 2 years now and so far walang problema. Right now Im having my vacation here in the US and presently driving a rented Hyundai Sonata and guess what? I think it drives better than my bro's Accord, a nice car indeed.
for korean cars they can only get better (and they are getting better) unlike japanese cars which have already reached the top and are now falling compared to korean cars...
One area that needs improvement is the availability of spare parts outside the casa, especially for folks like myself who live in the province. I sometimes have to wait for weeks in order to get parts for my Kia Sedona. I am even having trouble finding a replacement rear signal light for my 2006 Starex. The auto supply stores here in Panagsinan and Tarlac still do not have this part. Hyundai Dagupan also said they still have to order it from the factory (a one to two week wait), which seems quite unreasonable since vehicle tail lights are one of the more commonly replaced parts due to the high probability that accidents will cause damage to them.
if we are talking all korean cars model from 2006 and up its all because of performance,looks,features,advancement(always top for its price)and value for the money...here in phil korean cars are cbu only from korea so we could say koreans cars here are quality better than thailand/indonesia/india cbu cars...
-with all due respect sir, mahina pa rin daw kalidad ng Korean vehicles especially in the long run based on my friends assessment. One friend of mine owns a 2006 Hyundai Matrix and a 2005 Starex..Yung isa May Kia RIo 06 at Kia Sportage. Yung Sta. Fe daw maganda talaga---ang itsura---pero di maganda ang presyo dahil mahinang clase kumpara sa mga SUV ng Japan (he drove a Sta. Fe in the States). He also got to see a Sta. Fe in the Philippines na nabangga, tanggal ang buong harap, parang nayuping lata ng sardinas. Kabanggaan, L200 pickup. Warak pati radiator. L200, nayupi lang yung stepboard sa likod. Sayang ang 1.3 million.
-Pero no doubt, maganda ang design ng Hyundai-Kia ( Maganda ang new Starex at Sta. Fe.). Yung nga lang, talo in the long run. Yung spareparts daw mahirap kasi puro CBU. So mahirap ang maintenance in the long run.
-resale value mababa. One of my friends has a 2005 Hyundai Starex. Yari sya. Makalampag na. hanap piyesa.alang makuha. Kung meron, grabe presyo. Binenta, ang baba daw ng presyo nung nakuha sa kanya. Yung Kia picanto 2006 nuong isa ala pa sa kalahati presyo. Lugi ng maibenta.
--Maraming daw plastic component ang Hyundai-Kia (e.g. even a Hyundai Galloper)
-In the Philippines, as of 2007, according to CAMPI, nasa tailend ang sales ng Hyundai dito.
-They suggested if you have a 600T pesos or more, go to the reliable marque especially with local versions (i.e. CKD) Toyota, Nissan, Honda and Ford-Mazda.
--Sorry to say this, my conclusion, hyped lang ang Hyundai-Kia sa Pinas.![]()
i would not go so far as to say Hyundai and Kia have reached the level of Toyota and Honda. especially Kia. look at the materials used and the long-term reliability across a big sample size (like the JD Power Power Circle studies), and they are much improved, but nowhere near the top. they also tend to use lower quality materials and poorer fit and finish than the other makes.
but they are much improved, and they continue to offer cars for very low prices, so they are really getting hyped. once they are able to move upmarket, then we can talk about them beating Toyota or Honda. as of right now, i would equate their quality more with a Ford or a GM (which is a HUGE improvement from where they were 4-5 years ago)
article linkAuto sales jump 16.6% to 84,050 units in Jan-Sept
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
Saturday, October 13, 2007
Auto sales climbed by 16.6 percent to 84,050 units in the first nine months of the year from a year ago level, the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (CAMPI) and the Truck Manufacturers Association (TMA) said in a joint statement.
“The continued double-digit growth is seen to continue for the rest of the year should the economic environment remain robust,” CAMPI president Elizabeth H. Lee said.
Looking forward, Lee said the last three months of the year will be more promising for the industry.
“The last quarter will be most exciting for buyers as last quarter push to meet year-end sales target will be supported by promotions and programs to sustain momentum until year-end,” she said.
Toyota Motor Philippines Corp. remains the country’s top-seller with a market share of 39.93 percent.
It was followed by Honda Cars Philippines Inc. with a 15.11 percent share while Mitsubishi Motors Philippines was third with a 12.73 percent market share.
Data showed that there were more commercial vehicles sold than passenger cars. Sales of commercial vehicles account for 63 percent of total while the remaining 37 percent is passenger cars.
CAMPI and TMA explained that the popularity of using vehicles in business is catching up with sales of pickups, vans, and Asian utility vehicles (AUV) growing at a faster pace.
Sales of passenger cars went up to 3,892 units in September from 3,400 in August.
For the nine-month period, passenger car sales went up by 5.7 percent to 29,562 units.
“The sales for the passenger car segment still proved to be strong as it sustained its growth contributed by the arrival of stocks and active sales campaign,” Lee said.
Toyota sold the most number of passenger cars or 1,784 cornering 45.84 percent of the market while Honda sold 1,037 cars representing 26.64 percent market share. Nissan followed with a 6.99 percent share while Hyundai came in fourth with a 4.5 percent. Ford Motor Company Phils. was fifth with a 4.34 percent market share.
Commercial vehicle sales for September went up by 10.3 percent to 6,593 units from 5,975 units a month ago.
Commercial Vehicle sales continue to dominate the market with a significant growth of 23.5 percent year-on-year.
New models for the AUV segment continued to support the strong growth with a 22,776 unit sales for the Jan-September period yielding a
26.3 percent growth so far. Month-on-month sales also increased by eight percent due to fleet sales account deliveries and continuous promotional activities.
Toyota was the leader in commercial vehicle sales getting 36.45 percent of the market as it sold 2,403 vehicles. Second was Mitsubishi at 19.25 percent translating to 1,269 units sold.
Actually based on the of Jan - Sept passenger car sales figures, Hyundai is second to the bottom or 4th overall in ranking. Ford is deadlast.
Even less than Php 600K, a Japanese subcompact is readily available. Vios 1.3J M/T = Php 575,000 or City 1.3A M/T = Php 575,000.
I believe that they are getting the attention (and praise) that they deserve. I'm also not surprised that Korean cars in general have their own share of critics who continue to bash their credibility despite the leaps and bounds they have made in improving their brands.
Sadly, the average mindset of the pinoy is still on the japanese counterparts.
But really, nowadays it is difficult to buy a "bad car" as compared to the '80's and '90s. What used to be expensive and optional features before have now become standard in todays variants; that's the beauty of technology, as it trickles down, it becomes much easily available for all.
For me, in the end it really depends on the mindset of the driver, the real reason behind the wheel.
Para match yung laban eh Hyundai vs Ford-Mazda.
Ano pipiliin nyo? Ako sa Hyundai na.![]()
you know bro, i had a budget for a toyota innova last june. kc i need a much more space for my growing family coz may madadag na naman sa min this nov. im ready to buy a toyota innova in cold cash last june but when i saw the kia carens at the sm city north, nagulo na mind set ko. so what i did is to compare the carens with the innova. sa interior pa lang talo na agad innova kc dming side pockets for family talaga. sa features, well mas hi tech ang loob ng carens compare to innova. sa built mas nagustuhan ko carens kc di malaki at di rin maliit so tamang tama lang sa parking lot namin. mas eyecathing ang carens kc masyado ng maraming may innova kaya nakakasawa na tignan sa daan. sa exterior, mas nagustuhan ko carens. so in short, carens ang kinuha ko kesa sa innova. i want sana yung crdi kaso di kaya ng budget so what i have here is their 2.0 cvvt gas engine. fuel economy rin to kc konti lang ang dinagdag na gas sa 96 honda vti ko. so far wala pa namang problem maliban dun sa gas gas na ginawa ng isang delivery boy ng yellowcab sa back bumper ko sa may julia vargas sa may megamall he he hekia nice one!
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magaling lang kami nauna owners mag-hype dito sa tsikot. since 2006 pa namin pinapabango Hyundai dito hehehe
pero exaggerated yan naman yan tanggal harapan ng buong sta fe vs. stepboard. wow, yan ang hype to the max
i saw a civic racer once sa harap ng eastwood pinasok ang ilalim ng strada. ginawang preno. tanggal rear axle ng strada. i was also driving a strada that time.
ang na-feel ko noon para yun na-feel natin sa movies pag may scene na duktor talking about testicular cancer.
Last edited by oldblue; October 14th, 2007 at 01:08 AM.
lahat ng vehicles today e maraming plastic components (e.g. Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi)
look at the Innova and Fortuner only the seats and the fabric on the doors are not plastic everything else is from the door sidings to the dashboard (and it looks plastic)
yung sa Hyundai kahit plastic hindi mukhang plastic...
yes we Hyundai owners are hyping about our vehicles because there is something to hype about... we are very satisfied and say good things about Hyundai because we own 1... for people who do not own a Hyundai its always easy to find the faults...
before buying my Hyundai I looked for months at all the other options... I looked at the Fortuner (which Toyota will not let you test drive, I think they are scared that if you see how tagtag the ride is you will not buy 1)... my mom has an Innova and its less than 1 year old but is noisy as hell and the ride is not that comfortable... I test drove the CRV both the 2.0L and 2.4L, and although it was good it was not pulling me to buy one... the Outlander I went back about 10 times to the dealer to check it out and every time I just felt that it was too cheesy, the doors were plastic, the seats didn't seem thick, the 2nd row was not comfortable to sit in... the Hyundai on the other hand had nothing wrong with it, the seats were perfect, the dashboard elegant, the door sidings luxurious, you feel like you are riding in a luxury vehicle... I don't buy anything because of the brand name, I look at the product and what it has to offer... I agree Hyundai is not at the same class as Toyota, Honda and other big names, but if you as Toyota who they fear the most and they will tell you its Hyundai...