ano ba mas reliable when it comes on assembling our vehicles?
Tingin ko pareho lang. As big companies go, they must apply the same quality control standards regardless of where they are built to maintain the image of quality.
Plus hindi ba robotic naman karamihan, except maybe interiors?
pag local assemble, mas readily available mga parts so in the long run siguro mascheaper to maintain a locally assembled car than a one that was imported. baka casa lang kaya gumawa or they might have to import the parts if there was something wrong with the imported unit.
When you say imported vs loclly assembled are you talking about cbu units? Ako dun ako sa CBU.
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Depends on where the unit is CBU from. CBU from Korean, Taiwan or Thailand are comparable in build quality to locally assembled vehicles. CBU from the US are worse... (actually, it's just the materials...)...CBU from Japan are usually of good quality, because of the higher amount of automation.
All of this is also dependent on the quality of the parts and manufacturing itself. If parts tolerances and ease of handling are good, then it doesn't really matter where they're assembled... as long as the quality assurance system of the plant is good.
AFAIK, the locally assembled X-Trails, Fords and Mazdas are used for export. They've won JD Powers Initial Quality awards over the past few years. The initial quality award is reflective of the build quality and workmanship of the vehicle, while their regular Quality award considers three year reliability, which is reflective of the durability of the components themselves.
Last edited by niky; April 29th, 2006 at 02:33 PM.
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OT Just curious, would you know when Nissan started locally assembling X-trails? Got our unit on October 2004.Originally Posted by niky
From the beginning, yata. AFAIK, the first units sold here were already locally assembled. The Philippines is the ASEAN hub for X-Trail production.
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ganyan kasi ang narinig ko may mga Batch na outside sa country ginawa
,at ang later batch ay dito sa Pinas na inassemble,
alam naman natin may mga local plant(Honda,Toyota,Ford,etc.) na tayo dito
pero bakit nag dadala pa sila ng gawa sa labas ng Bansa
The nice thing about Philippine-assembled is that it's man-made. CBUs from Japan are robotized. Compare CBU RAV4 and Altis assembled here. The former begins to have some rattles on the inside after a few years, while the latter remains more intact.
The thing is sometimes, the difference tends to be not too far and heck, even at times local assembled can be just as good as those built in Japan or any original source.
Really depends talaga.
In the case with the Ford Group plant in Sta. Rosa, now that's an excellent vehicle factory (best in the country). But when compared to the local Honda factory, it doesn't have that good manufacturing processes when compared to Ayutthya or even Suzuka. Perhaps it's because they haven't spent any extra money yet to upgrade their facilities (unlike what Ford and Nissan Phils are planning to do for this year & the next)
But in the case of man-made VS. automated, I would say that automated is better. I don't know but if you've seen the latest motorshows, the next-gen Lexus LS units were still hand-made (check clublexus.com) and they had lots of things that weren't right.
Of course, it could also work the other way around. In the case of Ferraris and Maseratis and those uber-expensive super luxuries from Europe, those tend to be hand-made. Heck, I've even heard before on Carspyshots.net and a few car magazines that Ferrari was thinking of making a mass-production vehicle and then I started hearing people complain about it.
I don't really know.
I can say though that the Hiroshima-built Mazda 6 2.3 liter does indeed look of good-build and good use of materials.
Depends really on the quality of workmanship. Some items are better done by machine... like applying adhesives and fitting windshields in this manner... but other items are too hard for machines to reach, or too complex for them to assemble quickly.
Human workmanship can be sloppier than machines at times, uneven adhesive application, uneven laying of trim... but it can also be better... flush fitting interior panels, hand-stitching leather trim... wala talagang apples to apples comparison. That's why many cars are assembled both by hand and by robot.
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If you're talking about man-made vs. robot-made:
I choose robot-made especially if you're talking about mass production, its more
precise than man-made. However if you're talking about bespoke production like in
the case of Bentley, Rolls, maybach, etc. i prefer man-made, bec. it takes time to
create such masterpiece.
If you're talking about CBU vs. Local made
I choose CBU if its comming from Japan and Germany, bec. the manufacturing
process is more strict than cars produce in other countries, they also use higher
quality materials i.e. the guage of the metal used.
i suppose locally-assembled units are not really a far cry from the ones assembled abroad. modern manufacturing technology is already here naman, and even more advanced technology is creeping in. as regards the human component in the manufacturing process, pareho lang yan regardless of the location - don't buy a unit completed either on monday or friday![]()
Locally or Imported are just the same. Most if not all car manufacturers will outsource, meaning "Cheapest will win the bid" say for example the plastic dashboard or the cloth seat for the vehicle, car manufacturers will look for companies who can make those materials and vendors will try to bid and siyempre whoever can make those materials the cheapest will win the bid...
Some of the wiring harness of the U.S. built Ford Expedition still come from Laguna. And some parts are labelled made in Mexico.![]()
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